Girl buried alive for making male friends.

Wafa Sultan and stupid people like that not represent Islam. Nonie Darwish also is never Muslim, she is CHRISTIAN EVANGELIST. Their testimony has no weight, they are sponsored by Yahudi and ally and are taught to make propaganda and tell people that Islam is violent and attack woman. This is wrong facts of course, nothing more than lies.

 

It's not Wafa Sultam who is showing the world that Islam is violent and repressive towards women, it's all the Muslims who are being violent and oppressive towards women who are doing that. duh!

It's like your blaming the people in the Twin Towers for 9/11. How about instead of blaming the victims, you blame the perpetrators? How about that? Why don't you try that for awhile? It certainly seems to make more sense.

 

I no say anything about 9/11 you are presume too much? I also never say I condone or support murderious acts, why you say that I support terror? Show me statement that I like killing!

As for silly statement about woman in Islam, see my "Location" notice. Do you realise who you speak to?

 

awins - don't you have any opinion about the fact a Muslim family just buried their kid alive?

 

I don't call them Muslim, Islam does not allow to do such thing. May be they are followers but I can not call them Muslim at all!

Kindly note, if a Muslim does not follow Islam we can not call him/her Muslim.

imad has pointed out a good Ayat:

which clearly prove we can not call them Muslim and Islam does not support this.

 

So it was ok to kill her because she wasn't a muslim?

This stuff is so rich... oh, can't believe the lady who left islam because she is now a Christian....

islam is hate, islam is control, islam is submit, islam is death, islam is darkness, islam is from hell. Prove otherwise. There is no peace in islam, there is no love in islam. Evil is evil, hate is hate.

I suppose you think I should be killed for speaking the truth about islam now. I bet you would love to stone me. Too bad, so sad. You might want to take it out on your sister, I saw her talking to the jewish boy!

 

On the Day of Judegement: "When the female (infant) is buried alive, (the person) is questioned. For what crime she was killed..." (Qur'an 81: verse 8-9)

 

Cmon guys, Menj gave you names of FOUR infidels that converted to Islam. That's obviously unimpeachable proof that honor killings have never happened. Why are you still arguing?

 

when did I say? ask the people who have done such crime... we here already told Islam does not allow this.

No need to prove whether Islam is peace or not. Remember this is the 2nd largest religion in this world.

I bet you would love to stone me. Too bad, so sad. You might want to take it out on your sister, I saw her talking to the jewish boy!
I can't remember whether I have ever been slap anybody so far. Don't think all people are like you who only know how to hate others!

Why are you personally attacking me? so sad, people like you are sick! if you follow any religion, then you have not learn anything from it or your religion never teach how to behave with people except hating them!

 

Sounds like a hit a nerve.... did I attack you? no. Do I hate you? probably not. Do I think that it matters how large the religion is? nope.

You just don't get it, but you probably have been taught since birth and one of the things islam teaches is NOT to question anything islam. The evidence has been around since the birth of islam through mohamud - violence, hatred, evil, death, fear, misery..... nothing new since, islam has that going for it, nothing changes.

Now the one thing most islamist here do is say I am lying, so that would probably be the next step for you. However, just like the rest, they can never show anything that I am supposedly lying about. First of all, I have no reason to lie, no motive, no desire to lie about these things. That would be a waste of time. Simple just to state the things that are true, no need for lies, something that those with the blue avatar need to figure out someday.

 

How do you explain the large amount of honor killings?

I just Googled Muslim Honor Killings in Germany after a German friend of mine mentioned the large amount of honor killings done by Muslims

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...ngs+in+germany&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Why is this such a common practice and where does this originate?

Take a look at this one:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,344374,00.html


"The Whore Lived Like a German"


In the past four months, six Muslim women living in Berlin have been brutally murdered by family members. Their crime? Trying to break free and live Western lifestyles. Within their communities, the killers are revered as heroes for preserving their family dignity. How can such a horrific and shockingly archaic practice be flourishing in the heart of Europe? The deaths have sparked momentary outrage, but will they change the grim reality for Muslim women?



Hatin's crime, it appears, was the desire to lead a normal life in her family's adopted land. The vivacious 23-year-old beauty, who was raised in Berlin, divorced the Turkish cousin she was forced to marry at age 16. She also discarded her Islamic head scarf, enrolled in a technical school where she was training to become an electrician and began dating German men. For her family, such behavior represented the ultimate shame -- the embrace of "corrupt" Western ways.

Now your quote talks about a female infant? How about a grown woman who chooses to date a man of the west and walk away from Islam?

How does the Quaran deal with that?

 

well, Mike, crime is crime, even if its committed by any Muslim. But I can see western media play a very important role to send a wrong message among non-muslims. if you are taking about horror killings, then I can show many in our country or other, even not only from Muslim, which you actually can not see. I see all these things as crime regardless of religion. But its sad, if any Muslim does any crime, media jump on it, I am from a country where all type of religions are there and we stay together. You may check my current rental flat where people from other religion too stay with us. I never ever see any problem. I can show thousands of such proof here.

What do you say about this http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8136500.stm even at courtroom, can't imagine this type of crime may happen in an western country.

If you do believe that 911 was an conspiracy then this is the biggest conspiracy ever against Muslim to send wrong message among non-Muslims and which ultimately lead to war against Iraq and Afganisthan killing thousands of Muslim women and children. Do you think is this not an horror killings ? Also, since you have a blog regarding 911 you know very well how media play an important role to hide something or prove something else.

Regarding date with others, Islam does not allow any illegal sex- not going to explain on this, anyway, I know a lady from my area who left Islam (which Islam does not allow and is a sin- regardless of gender, other religion too does not take this as good if someone leave- right?) and marry with other religion people and live peacefully- does your media talk about it?- no.

similarly from women from other religion to Islam- I know many in our area, one of them stay in ground floor at my rental flat where currently living, I stay in 1st floor.
1st family husband is Muslim and wife is from other religion converted to Islam, they have a daughter, 2nd family they are not muslims at all, and 3rd I am a Muslim with my wife, we all stay at same flat in each floor peacefully. we both know thousands are there. Western Media can not see it. We only do crime nothing good, we only do hate and all bad things that can be imagined by those people who are against Islam and never see anything good in our religion- right?

 

Anyone gonna tell Emily Litella up there the thread's actually about HONOR killings, or should we just let it be a surprise?

 

I don't think it's Wafa Sultan and the "Western press" who is giving Islam a bad name.

You might want to talk to these boys instead...

 

I look at the wrongs regardless of who is doing them. The truth shall set us free. Now do tell me: What makes sex illegal and who is the judge?

And yes: I don't believe in the official 9/11 story, but IMO Islam was being used for domestic agendas, it wasn't done to worsen Islams reputation. Islam's reputation was being use.

 

Some places have honor killings while in the U.S. women kill their children and family members murder each other at high rates. It's easy for Americans (I am one) to judge stories like this without also realizing that we live in a very violent society even though our high murder rate does not have to do with fundamentalist religion (usually), isn't it all the same in a way?

 

Saying "they do it too" doesn't help. It can help to get to the bottom of both. Otherwise one will excuse the other, so I don't agree with how you view this.

 

what is the main reason for those guys who came down to street to protest? Obviously there are some reasons. Not only in Islam, but if someone insult others beliefs, followers of that religion obviously protest against. isn't it? its pretty common.

regarding, illegal sex, i meant to say, get involved in sex before marry or similar which is not allowed in Islam.

I appreciate that you are looking for the truth. Me too. I hate terrorists, terrorism or bad people who don't have humanity. I or my family members or relatives may too lost lives if any terrorists blast a bomb here now. they will not see whether I am a Muslim or not. Whether its an terrorism activity or war, all type of people lost their lives, including soldiers - who are may be a good father, mother or brother of someone.
we know ordinary people like me only look for peace nothing else. May be we are followers of different religions. right?

If I do believe 911 was an conspiracy then why did we get Muslim names? It clearly proves this was against Muslims to prove how dangerous we are. what type of messages did we get regarding Muslims or Islam? only wrong and misleading messages!

Well, if I do believe 911 was not an conspiracy then why did US start war against Iraq? to kill Muslims? Any nuclear weapon found - no, nothing only oil which was the main aim.
Surprisingly US started war against a very weak country like Afganisthan to stop terrorism or to kill only few people who were suspected but here too killed many Muslims! not sure what they have got in return in this case.

We are probably being out of topic now.

 

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Yes, better to keep that in the other thread, but I will be more than happy to reply over there.

 

Did anyone else notice that the guy bottom picture, bottom right, looks TOTALLY like a monkey?