umm, anyone can sign in to protective custody, famous people are put into protective custody to keep them from being killed. As of right now, I'm pretty sure at least in NY , you can rape a child or a woman and get less time then someone who is caught with like an ounce of cocaine. I think in most states you get less prison time for molesting and rape then drugs. They should probably swith that around in my opionion.
"umm, anyone can sign in to protective custody." Umm, anyone can sign-UP for protective custody. Very very few actually receive it. The guiding rule is if indeed someone would likely need it. And, yes, child-molesters would likely NEED it, because they, known as "short-eyes" on the inside are the most despised (rightly so) of all convicts by other convicts. It is what you learn AFTER you know it all that really counts. IN Christ
When it was time for my child to go to school me or my wife of 27 years would take him to schooland one of us would sit with him in the class room and then bring him home. That is your job to protect them 24-7 no matter what it takes. You are not living life for your self, you gave up that right when you had that child. You say that you don't want to smother your child. What I'm about to say makes me sick to even write but I have to in order to make a point. If your child was murdered do you realy believe that you wouldn't be saying that you wish you would have smothered your child. Because I know there can't be no greater lost than loseing a child. If I was put in the situation where I did not protect my child and he was molested I would have to tell the person that molested him to please send my child back home instead of murdering him you can walk free. Because he can get over being molested but he can't get over being dead as I said there can't be no greater lost than the life of my child. I see these “bad parents†on TV. after their child has been murdered and I wounder how they can go on living when they have failed to protect their child, I know I couldn't.
You say molesting also happens within the family circle such as the father or uncle. actually it isn't molesting it is Incest they only call it molesting to get a conviction The reason why they use molestation is they don't want to argue the point in court that Many people immediately reject the conclusion that Adam and Eve's sons and daughters married each other by appealing to the law against brother-sister intermarriage. Some say that you cannot marry your relation. Actually, if you believe in god, then you would believe that if you don't marry your relation, you don't marry a human! A wife is related to her husband even before they marry because all people are descendants of Adam and Eve -- all are of "one blood." The law forbidding marriage between close relatives was not given until the time of Moses 400 years later (Leviticus 18-20). Provided marriage was one man to one woman for life (based on Genesis 1 and 2), there was no disobedience to God's law originally when close relatives (even brothers and sisters) married each other. Remember that Abraham married his half-sister (Genesis 20:12). God blessed this union to produce the Hebrew people through Isaac and Jacob. ask your self a question ?? did god committe the first sin when he made Eve and then relised that he made a mistake and fixed it. And no I don't approve of incest And I answered the rest on the above post
There is a huge difference between the defination of molesting & Incest and saying that the court of law only use molesting as term to get a conviction is complete BS. Defination of incest Definition of molest Correct me if I am wrong but wouldnt it be safe to say that 99.9% or even 100% of innocent children molested by a family member has been subjected to unwanted or improper sexual activity? Saying that its not molesting and that it is incest which was all part of the bible sounds like somone is trying to make an excuse here for the evil perverts in the world. Also saying that its incest you are basically saying that children consented to the sex and fully understood what they were doing?? First you need to ask do you acually believe in God? not everyone does believe in God and for those who dont your statement probably sounds like right dribble. I believe in God but I see nothing worse than the Bible being brought into a discussion about child molesting as there isnt any connection between the two (even though you think it does).
Well said, and I agree wholeheartedly. Child molestation is a class unto itself, in my book, the most vile of the vile things our species can come up with. No quarter.
ferret, you write: "um no anyone who says their life is threatened to sign in," This sentence does not make any sense, nor does, what I assume it suggests as to your contention. I don't think you know anything of what you speak here. Which prison, please name one, do you speak of. Please supply one example. IN Christ
If there isnt any connection between the two then where did you get all those ideas? about child molester's and all those values held by the Christian right that you are spouting all over the place. everyone is born an atheist - no one has a built in belief in any religion, or god, .Did you hear them from a preacher or at a church? what would you be saying if you had never heard of the Bible? All people are taught about religion, god, myth, etc., by their parents, neighbors, culture, upbringing, and so on unless you can prove otherwise, I think my point stands. You say you see nothing worse than the Bible being brought into a discussion about child molesting. so Actually, you brought the Bible into the discussion about child molesting not me. sounds like right dribble? all of your statement's are right dribble more than mine.You say sounds like somone is trying to make an excuse here for the evil perverts. I'm not making excuses for any body or any thing not even you. If any thing you and other people like you are hurting your cause more then any body. Don't believe me ? All you are doing is repeating history by hammering on predators and it is so close to another groups agenda it isn't funny. So just keep hammering. I'm going to give you a hint this group that prefer the Ark that Ned Flanders built, with 2 male animals of each species so nothing "improper" would happen... Until he blurts out:"Hey you too, cut that out!" If you don't get it by now then you will never get it. It is time for parents to start protecting their children the right way.Our societys values is like a runaway train with no brakes.
What the heck are you talking about? For one the bible, nor preacher or anyone else did I hear my dribble from. A molester is evil and its final, no excuses like you are trying to make here. Eh? Read your posts - YOU brought the bible bashing into the discussion, not me. Sorry to burst that bubble I dont have a cause, I am just taking part into a discussion so dont go reading into that too much. So what do you suggest? You have only made an excuse for molesters within a family by saying its incest but also added nothing but ideas from religion that makes you come across as a bible basher.
Your dribble and our societys laws come from the Bible If you don't get it by now then you will never get it
The Albany county jail, bedford hills state prison, one of my old girlfriends went to prision for 2 years, I have learned all about it
I truly hope I never have to find out. That said I'm about to take my children, with my husband, to countries that experience internal conflict including bombs and civil unrest. We'll be visiting islands devastated by the Tsunami and staying in backpacker accommodation directly affected by it. Our hope is that our children experience another culture, see that the world isn't always a white middle class utopia and realise that by taking advantage of the good things in their world they can, in turn, help those less fortunate. We hope, too, that they don't see nastiness, no bombs, or natural disasters but the cost of not travelling and living as we do is to live in fear. By sending my children to school, and kissing them goodbye at the classroom door I'm teaching them that people can be trusted. By talking to them about standing tall against bullying and "ick people" I'm teaching them that sometimes people can't be trusted but that they have the power to stay safe. Without trust in our fellow man, what have we got? No love, no marriage, we'd trade with fear, our neighbour would be our enemy. Down here in New Zealand, that's not the way we live.
ferret, you write:"The Albany county jail, bedford hills state prison, one of my old girlfriends went to prision for 2 years, I have learned all about it" As I said, you cannot provide one example. Naming a prison is NOT an example any more than your "old girlfriends" going to prison some years ago makes you an expert on the subject. Your contention is wrong. Your information is wrong. IN Christ
I don't doubt that you are a good loving caring parent. My point is don't be naive about today's society because it is not the same as when we grew up. Today we have to worry about more than just child molesters we have to worry about children killing each other because some one got called a bad name or over a video game. So be extra careful with your children is all I am saying and be safe on your travels in some of the countries you might want to wear a big sign telling them that your from New Zealand so they don't mistake you for an American. All I can tell them is "God Bless America"
One improvement in today's society. I went to a school called "Takapuna Normal Intermediate". Intermediate schools are for two years when you are between 10 and 12. There was a teacher called Mr Maxwell - long dead no doubt. The parents would warn you before you started at the school because he was a "back scratcher" - he'd run his hand down your back to see if you've started wearing a bra yet. He never laid a finger on me but the fear of being in his maths class was very real. Yet the parents warned their children and did nothing to have him removed. Even if he was an innocent victim of lies and myth he should have been moved to another school where he could teach children who trusted him rather than be despised by the student population.