99% chance of listing on DMOZ - I Gurantee it

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by hoodedwebmaster, Feb 18, 2010.

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Is getting listed on DMOZ a BIG deal for you?

Poll closed Aug 16, 2010.
  1. Way Yes.

    86.7%
  2. What's DMOZ.

    13.3%
  1. #1
    Hey Guys and Gals,

    I know this not might be the case with everyone of you and some got lucky to get listed, but im going to give you a method that will give your site a 99% chance of getting listed on DMOZ.

    I guarantee it as I got listed in less than 1 Month from applying and the reason is obvious.

    SubmitStartup.com is my site and you can check it out for yourselves.

    I covered the following three things and in my humble opinion was in alignment with their overall objective

    The most important factor and number 1 requirement is that This is your Baby, and by baby I mean this is the only site you are working on and you have nothing else but this that you want to develop and work on and nor it be a fling for a quick sale.

    That is simply it .... This will invest your time in developing and building the site by spending time and effort on it which automatically starts the second requirement and that is you are creating a unique entity which is providing value for your online service.

    Once thats established the simple matter of choosing the right description and catagory in DMOZ and writing an objective description that outlines your site objectives will get you listed 99% chance in my humble opinion.

    The 1% chance that you dont get listed, well it could be 2 reasons

    1) There simply is too many sites that are just a duplicate in their directory which may be in a sense betterly adapted to what you have.

    2) Its Human Edited meaning in the end of the day A simple misjudgment might happen that it doesnt really go your way.

    Look at it this way, Google is successful because if its user is searching "Booking Hotels in Europe" Google gives its visitors the best options to book hotels in Europe.

    DMOZ is simply similar, if you are under "Developers" category, DMOZ wants to give you a list of the best Developers.

    Guess this is only my humble opinion but I try to my best to speak of experience....

    Looking forward to hearing what you have to say in comments....

    P.S. I know many got listed with maybe multiples of sites, but let me assure you that I believe the Human Interpreter can never be perfect and might assume that this is a valuable Site that will reach potential and that was the reason she / he would list, in a nutshell speaking.

    P.S.S For me getting listed in DMOZ is a great achievement and big deal as they choose the Best of the Best only, so reaching will reflect you are heading the right direction. But thats only my opinion.

    Audai E. Louri
     
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  2. CReed

    CReed Prominent Member

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    #2
    Sites are not listed based on future potential. Many editors have already noted that. ;)

    I'm going to guess that your submission being added to DMOZ within a month just happened to coincide with an editor taking an interest in reviewing the sites that were submited to that particular category.

    There is no guarantee when an editor may choose to do so, and there is no way one can guarantee that by formatting a submission as you suggested, a site will get listed within a specific time frame.
     
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  3. Colbyt

    Colbyt Notable Member

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    #3
    It is just another link.
     
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  4. hoodedwebmaster

    hoodedwebmaster Peon

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    #4
    I cant agree more, perhaps the category wasn't a very large one and simple to maintain or perhaps it was pure luck that my submission was the only one in the list for review, but either way the important thing is the final outcome regardless of the time frame, for that is nothing more than a variable that does not impact the overall Objective, and one must be objective, wont you agree ;)

    P.s. and Sorry Colbyt, its not just another link in my opinion...
     
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    #5
    Without a doubt diligence in producing a good unique content rich site puts a site in a good position for a listing. Without a doubt picking the right category will help to speed up a listing, because if it is offered to the wrong category, the reviewing editor will probably simply move to the right category and you have to wait for another editor to look at that area. Editors will sometimes cherrypick suggestions and review the ones that have a guideline compliant description and title or at least have made a valiant attempt at one.

    But if you imply that those things will guarantee an imminent listing you would be wrong. No one can do that.

    But if you mean that sometime the site will be listed, then that is likely to be true. Problem for most site owners is they suggest their site and then don't want to wait the week, month, year, 5 years that it will take to get a review for a possible listing and assume that their site has not been used.
     
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  6. hoodedwebmaster

    hoodedwebmaster Peon

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    #6
    Thank you, Very well said and I couldnt have said it better myself,

    for certain Nothing is guaranteed and this is nothing but merely the starting foundation and is maybe the least expected to get listed, but if its on the right path then I would never believe it to be discarded, and then again every situation varies as you so correctly said.

    And time, well there is wisdom we can learn from philosophy and I never forget when the all mighty created this universe in 6 days when a mere command from him could have it created with what our minds can comprehend as a blink of an eye, then I guess time is irrelevant to the final goal. And you so correctly said, following the guidelines can only but ease the process and make it move in a faster harmony.
     
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  7. robjones

    robjones Notable Member

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    #7
    Well... bear in mind it mighta taken longer if he'd delegated the task to volunteers. :p Still you are correct that having a great site gives you a huge edge and submitting it with an appropriate title and objective site descrip to the right category will set you apart from the crowd. From the submitters end that includes pretty much everything that is within your control to do, and if you do those things it ideally is simply a matter of time (duration varies with the category) before it should be listed.
     
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  8. coopersPick

    coopersPick Active Member

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    I have one of the best sites for my perspective category that is always updated and no fly by night objective. It still hasnt been indexed in DMOZ is it possible that the category is corrupted? I wrote to an admin to find out the other day but have yet to hear back.
     
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  9. snooks

    snooks Well-Known Member

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    #9
    Why would corruption be brought into it, simply because you are not listed?

    DMOZ do not provide a listing service for webmasters and not every site will be included. Ther are millions of great sites that arent included.......it's simply a matter of time, volunteer Editors' time. Your site may or may not be reviewed at some stage and it may or may not be included. We have no way of knowing when a volunteer Editor will choose to edit in that part of the directory.

    Once the site has been suggested, move on, you can do nothing else.
     
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  10. TecSupport

    TecSupport Peon

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    #10
    how long does it take to get listed on dmoz?
     
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  11. instant87

    instant87 Active Member

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    Anywhere between one week and four years. Yes, it's not a typo, I said years. Most of the time, you won't even get accepted if you are lacking quality.
     
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  12. hoodedwebmaster

    hoodedwebmaster Peon

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    #12
    I have applied many sites and they didnt get listed, they were also really good ones. Maybe some day they will.
     
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  13. blackrussian

    blackrussian Guest

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    hoodedwebmaster

    How come you poll is missing 'no' option?

    snooks

    You said:
    and yet your colleagues accepted piece of crap submitstartup.com with no content (5 pages including home page and total amount of only 50 links) not working links to internal pages (click on pages 2, 3, 4, 5 and see what happen)

    If this is DMOZ editors idea what 'unique' content should look like, then I'm closing my case here and now.

    :confused:
     
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    #14
    Stop exagerating it can take far longer than 4 years.

    Looks like blackrussian sure closed his case here.
     
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  15. Abu Dhabi

    Abu Dhabi Greenhorn

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    #15
    Indeed... people can commit felonies, serve time and be out before your listing is up on DMOZ.
     
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  16. hoodedwebmaster

    hoodedwebmaster Peon

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    And may I say that perturbation becomes you Blackrussian whilst simultaneously providing me the opportunity to demonstrate both, my view and why i was listed in DMOZ as the editor so correctly done.

    Though you got banned I hope you can still read this to understand.

    My site was uniquely programmed by me using ASP Dot NET From the ground up and got reviewed by Killerstartups.com, Startupmeme.com and many other sites as Startup of the week with a clear concept and motto "Never wonder where to submit your startup again".

    Not only that but SubmitStartup has

    1) Clear Objectives, Mission and Vision as you may see in the about us section.
    2) The dead links are not really dead links, some of the sites listed go out of order but are restored in 1 day time, my process is that I give them up to 4 month to restore before removing them. Its known as process Engineering and being objective in what we do.
    3) Submit Startup also has the sister Domains SubmitAStartup and SubmitStartups associated which shows how serious the website is and currently BlogReviewed.com.
    4) It provides TRUE value to its proponents with a clear objective of what it wants to achieve.

    Im not certain if DMOZ editors list sites because of unique content only or not. Maybe an editor can help us out here, but I doubt thats the reasoning of DMOZ.

    But thank you for your feedback and kind words and if you have something that you believe is valuable please do show us, they do say actions speak louder than words.

    With Kind Regards,

    Hooded Webmaster
     
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  17. hoodedwebmaster

    hoodedwebmaster Peon

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    And may I say that perturbation becomes you Blackrussian whilst simultaneously providing me the opportunity to demonstrate both, my view and why i was listed in DMOZ as the editor so correctly done.

    Though you got banned I hope you can still read this to understand.

    My site was uniquely programmed by me using ASP Dot NET From the ground up and got reviewed by Killerstartups.com, Startupmeme.com and many other sites as Startup of the week with a clear concept and motto "Never wonder where to submit your startup again".

    Not only that but SubmitStartup has

    1) Clear Objectives, Mission and Vision as you may see in the about us section.
    2) The dead links are not really dead links, some of the sites listed go out of order but are restored in 1 day time, my process is that I give them up to 4 month to restore before removing them. Its known as process Engineering and being objective in what we do.
    3) Submit Startup also has the sister Domains SubmitAStartup and SubmitStartups associated which shows how serious the website is and currently BlogReviewed.com.
    4) It provides TRUE value to its proponents with a clear objective of what it wants to achieve.

    Im not certain if DMOZ editors list sites because of unique content only or not. Maybe an editor can help us out here, but I doubt thats the reasoning of DMOZ.

    But thank you for your feedback and kind words and if you have something that you believe is valuable please do show us, they do say actions speak louder than words.

    With Kind Regards,

    Hooded Webmaster
     
    hoodedwebmaster, Mar 13, 2010 IP
  18. Anonymously

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    We are ONLY interested in sites which are unique content rich. No other qualifications attached, age not important, new gizmos not important, style no important.
     
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  19. Badlands07

    Badlands07 Well-Known Member

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    That may be the case, but even when sites that are unique content rich are submitted most times they never get reviewed. I wish there was a formalized and consistent process with check and balances that we could submit a site and then monitor it's progress. I was excited when I thought BOTW was going to buy OPD from AOL, because even at $299 for a a permanent listing it would be a deal.
     
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  20. snooks

    snooks Well-Known Member

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    #20
    Putting it simply, everyone craves inclusion in DMOZ because it is percieved as being a magic link, exclusive and hard to get accepted into.

    Now if we became a directory like Yahoo, BOTW, JoeAnt etc, then would we not be like every other directory? This means that payment would almost certainly guarantee incusion, DMOZ would lose the stature of being what it is, rendering it no better than every other directory. What many people want DMOZ to be, or to become, is exactly what would destroy it.

    The fact is that DMOZ is unique, it is human edited, we accept suggestions and not submissions and it is "not a listing service for webmasters".

    In my opinion it will never become a directory that accepts payment for inclusion.
     
    snooks, Mar 13, 2010 IP