Muslims murdered 500 Christians - mostly children and women

Your ignorance is profound. I am a woman but I was never TAUGHT that men are superior to woman. You just lie, all the time about Islam and speak ignorance.

[video=youtube;07zuCjBBDLs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07zuCjBBDLs[/video]

[video=youtube;H7cYbCgRJgs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7cYbCgRJgs[/video]

Also this.

This enough and show you like make untruths, no question.

 

Aha you learn from experienced, i wish you talk about on the bases of Islamic knowledge not what media show you. I know there is written that beat a woman (husband to wife) but you guys always forget to mention why to beat? learn from the same ayaat A husband can beat a woman in just one condition if his wife make relation with other guy, a man first have to warn her, 2nd time if he saw his wife again then again warn her, but third time he can divorce to her or if not just beat (beat does not mean in public or beat with stick, its written just beat with soft hand) but if you move to man condition its says if a man found with other woman then its duity of his wife to tell to his brother and beat the man in public.

now tell me who is superior? a man or woman? ofcource a woman.



I wish you can take a interview of any single woman and you will see that Muslim woman are so happy and enjoying the each moment of life

such kind of condition save Muslim woman and Man from sex, HIV, Aids etc

 

awins - are you saying that the Qu'ran does NOT say that men are superior to women?

Vebtools - to reiterate, I am not talking about knowledge from the media, in fact the media in my country is not anti Islamic at all, many times it is so PC that they wont even call an honor killing an honor killing, so as to not offend Muslims.

Also, you admit that in Islam a man can beat his wife in certain circumstances; to hear you admit it is unusual as most wont; I can't say that I respect it because we're talking about a sick and deplorable behavior, however I think it is good you can tell the truth - at least in part. (It is not only if she cheats on him, according to the Qu'ran it is when she is "disobedient" or the like.)

I will tell you who is superior, since you asked. No one. No one gender is superior to the other. Men and women were created equal and neither is superior to the other.

Lastly, no one needs saving from sex; as to HIV and Aids, are you aware that there are more ways to contract these diseases than just sex? And that Muslims get Aids and HIV as well as non Muslims?

Oh - also, read the Qu'ran (4:34) if you honestly don't believe the Qu'ran says as I claim, awins.

 

Here's a few examples from the quran.

A woman's testimony worth half of a man...

Surah 002.282

(SHAKIR) O you who believe! when you deal with each other in contracting a debt for a fixed time, then write it down; and let a scribe write it down between you with fairness; and the scribe should not refuse to write as Allah has taught him, so he should write; and let him who owes the debt dictate, and he should be careful of (his duty to) Allah, his Lord, and not diminish anything from it; but if he who owes the debt is unsound in understanding, or weak, or (if) he is not able to dictate himself, let his guardian dictate with fairness; and call in to witness from among your men two witnesses; but if there are not two men, then one man and two women from among those whom you choose to be witnesses, so that if one of the two errs, the second of the two may remind the other; and the witnesses should not refuse when they are summoned; and be not averse to writing it (whether it is) small or large, with the time of its falling due; this is more equitable in the sight of Allah and assures greater accuracy in testimony, and the nearest (way) that you may not entertain doubts (afterwards), except when it is ready merchandise which you give and take among yourselves from hand to hand, then there is no blame on you in not writing it down; and have witnesses when you barter with one another, and let no harm be done to the scribe or to the witness; and if you do (it) then surely it will be a transgression in you, and be careful of (your duty) to Allah, Allah teaches you, and Allah knows all things.

Source: http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/002.qmt.html



A woman should only inherit half of what a man gets...

Surah 004.011

(SHAKIR) Allah enjoins you concerning your children: The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females; then if they are more than two females, they shall have two-thirds of what the deceased has left, and if there is one, she shall have the half; and as for his parents, each of them shall have the sixth of what he has left if he has a child, but if he has no child and (only) his two parents inherit him, then his mother shall have the third; but if he has brothers, then his mother shall have the sixth after (the payment of) a bequest he may have bequeathed or a debt; your parents and your children, you know not which of them is the nearer to you in usefulness; this is an ordinance from Allah: Surely Allah is Knowing, Wise.

Source: http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/004.qmt.html



A woman should be obedient to her man, if not, it's ok to beat her...

Surah 004.034

(SHAKIR) Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

Source: http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/004.qmt.html



Men are a degree above women...

Surah 002.228

(SHAKIR) And the divorced women should keep themselves in waiting for three courses; and it is not lawful for them that they should conceal what Allah has created in their wombs, if they believe in Allah and the last day; and their husbands have a better right to take them back in the meanwhile if they wish for reconciliation; and they have rights similar to those against them in a just manner, and the men are a degree above them, and Allah is Mighty, Wise.

Source: http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/002.qmt.html

 

As always Rebecca, a fantastic post.

 

It is really a ashame on part of a human being. All of us are human. Religion is a way to reach a destination. There are so many ways to reach a destination. We should not fight among ourselves to find out which is best way to reach a destination, which is nothing but a GOD.

 

I wish you guys grow up and view the picture from both side

I will not debate here, coz its always useless

have a good day

Muhammad Ahmed
vebtools

 

If you didn't want to debate why did you become involved? Are you upset because when the Qu'ran was quoted you and awins were made to look foolish?

Also, is your name seriously Muhammad Ahmed?

 

lolz i am not upset, i ans these question lot of time before to Rebecca, and who involved me here, just check page number 1.

and let me clear i am Muslim and my belief is not like a glass who can break any time, Muslims believes are strong more than a stone

Still ii wish you guys view the both sides of a Picture

and thanks to my parents who give me that name

Muhammad Ahmed
vebtools

 

Doesn't it feel weird having a name that is the same as like every other Muslim? I feel like you'd lose some identity.

Lucky you aren't a teddy bear!

 

I am Lucky i am Muslim and have a wonderful name,

 

It is. Kind of changing the subject here, but what do you think about Nigeria? Why do you think they're killing each other like this?

 

dont know why you guys relate every thing to religion, grow up guys

 

I think you need to study science to understand this.
Eveybody is female, but some are left up one degree above to become males. FACT.
Also, the leader/manger/master is one degree above the rest, and there is no life without master.

 

Qur'an and Hadith never say anything of that. Why you ignore video content and link which explain this???

Of course I don't "believe" you, you are not Muslim what reason for me to believe you? You read Quran bits and pieces and then you make silly summary without considering other info. I have already given you THIS LINK (I make bold and largen this time so that you no more ignore), which expose your lie about An-Nissa, ayaat 34.

I am Muslimah and I proud to be one. So dont tell me that I am "oppress" bcoz I certainly am not!

 

This "fact" was not in any science class I've ever attended. Why don't you explain why you feel men are "up one degree above."

 

Twisting lies and manipulate facts, like Yahudi behaviour as I know. Why you rely only on translation and why pick only on Shakir?

Replied here.

Responded to and explained in detail here.

This was answered in link above.

I do not know why you feel your right to speak on behalf of Muslim woman. I certainly did not appoint you to speak on my behalf and I will never leave Islam because you manipulate things, just as the Yahudi of the old use to do when they greet Rasulullah SAWS with "Unzurhuuna" and twist tongues to mock him. Funny that you dunno what is Google in this internet times, all need to do is search instead of lie, lie and lie and twist meaning with your hate Islam. You no different from Yahudi ancestors!

 

"Degree" in terms of responsibility. Yes!

T.U. Hilali-M. Khan: And divorced women shall wait (as regards their marriage) for three menstrual periods, and it is not lawful for them to conceal what Allâh has created in their wombs, if they believe in Allâh and the Last Day. And their husbands have the better right to take them back in that period, if they wish for reconciliation. And they (women) have rights (over their husbands as regards living expenses, etc.) similar (to those of their husbands) over them (as regards obedience and respect, etc.) to what is reasonable, but men have a degree (of responsibility) over them. And Allâh is All-Mighty, All-Wise.

 

I think the T.U. Hilali-M. Khan translation is much nicer than Shakir. Do you feel it's possible then that different translations of the quran could be tainted with the prejudice of the translator?

You respond to my quoting the quran by saying Jews are liars? When you wrote that, did you believe you were making sense?

 

awins - I have not read "bits" of the Qu'ran. I have read the entire Qu'ran multiple times. You are still claiming the Qu'ran doesn't say anything about women being less than men, despite my telling you exactly which passage to read. Unless your video says that the Qu'ran is a lie, and thus 4:34 is a lie, it doesn't interest me. What I want is for you to read the Qu'ran, specifically 4:34 then tell me what it says.

Rebecca, I would also be interested to know;

awins, I'd like to point out that no one here is speaking for you - you are not my concern and I don't believe you are Rebecca's either - we both feel disgust for the fact that in Muslim countries women are not treated as well as men, they have different rules, they are punished like children; they can be beaten legally. Until a few years back women in Saudi Arabia were not allowed to drive cars. Some women are brainwashed to believe this is OK - but we (I think I can speak for both of us on this, Rebecca) are still pained to know there are women out there forced into marrying old men when they are children, women who are expected to obey their brothers or husbands, etc.

Rebecca, lastly - they do think they make sense in that department; insulting Jews is what Muslims do when cornered.