Hi all, I don't know the exact formula, but google determines pagerank by the inbound links to a page and then minuses some amount for outbound links (if I'm wrong on this please set me straight). So, here is my question. On my website, I use the FULL URL for all my links, eg, I won't link to a page development.php, I'll link to http://www.softsmart.co.za/web/development.php Does google count those as outbound links which hurt my pagerank? What about the short version? Is that counted as an outbound link? Thanks, John
Outbound links don't hurt your pagerank. If you have a PR of 2 on a certain page, it won't increase or decrease based on links from your page to other places. (Links from other places to your page will affect its PR.) When you link from your page to other pages - internal or external - you give PR to those pages, but it doesn't take any PR away from your page. The amount of PR that gets passed to each page you link to depends on how many links you have. So if you only have one link on your page, all of the PR that you are able to pass is passed to that one page. If you have 10 links on the page, each destination page gets one tenth of the PR that your page has to pass. I don't think it matters whether the links are to other pages on your site or to external sites. And I don't think you're fooling the search engines by making it look like an external link.
One thing to consider here is that the more outbound links you have on a page, the less pagerank you can pass *internally*.
let me get you a good example -my website has PR1 .my main page http://www.downloadvyp.com then how come the subcategories also have PR1 ,like this one http://www.downloadvyp.com/games/ i have many internal links on the main page.so,how come the secondary pages have PR1. that mean the page rank in not divided on how many internal links you have
In this example, google is saying that your subcategory page has a backlinks of it's own. From this URL http://www.pixelrage.ro/news/Fifa-10-Demo-pe-10-septembrie-7393.html And that URL has a pagerank of 3, so that's probably where it got some of it's linkjuice from. That combined with the internal linkjuice you pass from your homepage gave it a PR1.
It's showing only internal backlinks right now. It's not unreasonable to suggest that your internal page received a PR1 just links from only your domain. Although pagerank is displayed on the toolbar in whole numbers, in reality, it probably isn't a whole number. It's probably a decimal. So if your homepage has a PR1, but is actually a 1.45, and it has no other outbound links on the page, then it is passing your inner page 1.45 * .85 (the 'dampening factor') whcih wiuld still be represented by a 1 on the google toolbar. Obviously, this is grossly oversimplified. There are other factors. you obviously have more than on internal link on your main page, so how do you calculate that. The short answer is, no one knows for you. I personally don't think the link juice is divided the same way it is for outbound links. The bottom line is, though, that the fewer outbound links you have, the more link juice you pass to your own internal pages.
If you, on the other hand, make a page purely for the sake of passing page rank to another site, then fewer inbound links can be a good thing. Although, if you have a universal blogroll link to your second site, then internal links to the other pages on the linking site can be good as this boosts its pages in rank and these pass more to the second site. Dunno if you wanted to try this approach.
Links to "non-quality" sites, or LE's that do not share the same content base as yours may affect your page rank- as google will see it as 'farming" Internal links do not count, neither do search listings for your site. Page rank is solely determined by "quality" backlinks. So say you have 1,00 unique visitors a day, but no sites that google considers 'quality" add a direct link to your site on theirs- you will have no Google Page Ranking If you only get 50 visitors a day, but you have a direct link on 100 other "quality" PR 3 and 4 sites, then Google will give your site page rank even if the traffic is almost non-existant. Nofollow and dynamic outbound links (not direct urls) are useless in PR- and give the landing page f your site no value- thus no page rank is given.
I'm not sure this is true. Especially as the links show up when you search "link: mysite.com" in google. I am currently running tests to confirm. EDIT: According this http://www.webworkshop.net/pagerank.html and 12,300,000 other articles, this statement does appear to be false.
You're using invalid syntax. You need to remove the space between 'link:' and 'mysite.com' in order for it to be valid. link: mysite.com -- invalid link:mysite.com -- valid If you add the string, then it will return any site that has the text 'link:' and the text 'mysite.com', which is much different that what 'link:mysite.com' shows.
No problem. I just wanted to clarify, becomes some people incorrectly think that using a space gives them all of their backlinks, rather than just he sample that google provides with the link command.
The absolute number of links counts toward your SERPs so internal links with appropriate anchor text do add value.
yaa some time we got backlink with same site inner page that means google get preference to interlinking and count in outbound link
It is counted, but External links are better as to be counted as backlinks but if you do have some pages on your own site which has heavy PR you can juice it and share it to your other pages of your site. This way you help those pages to rank on search result but be sure no to over do it.
What would count as "overdoing it"? I know the site experiencefestival.com pushes it to an absolute extreme and seems to be doing pretty well for itself.
Pardon me if this is a little off-track - i am posting this here coz' i see discussion of both inbound and outbound links. Best to my knowledge, i've given about 10 outbound links on one of my blogs- http://latest-gadgetreviews.com/ - Now, I am trying to calculate number of outbound links from my home page & it's showing up 202!! Any ideas why on earth is it showing such a high figure???
In my own experiences, outbound links would only relate to the links to pages on different domains. All links on the same domain would be calculated as inner links. If you do want to keep the PR value for a certain page, you need to use rel=nofollow attribute for <a> tag. All the best,