Its not just anyone. It is a respected Muslim scholar. If it were someone who claimed to represent my religion explaining the tenants of what I supposedly believe, I would certainly be prompt to discredit the person in every way possible. It is also not just this forum. My comments apply to the Muslim community as a whole. Guys like this go on, day after day making videos like this, and it seems there are a scant few who comment in outrage. If pressed, they give an offhanded dismissal, as you did, saying these people don't represent the real Islam. Meanwhile, the impression given to the rest of the non-Muslim planet is that the Muslim people tacitly endorse these beliefs, The examples of this are MANY. Common Muslims in the streets of Amsterdam calling for the death of an artist who portrayed Mohammad in an unflattering light. Not only is there no outcry about this by "Moderate" Islam, there is open support for killing this man, and repeated attempts on his life. It isn't "Muslim haters" telling us this. It is Muslim leadership and constituents. The idea that the rest of the world is supposed to just dismiss what your own leadership is saying is absurd. Here is some more, by a formerly well respected Palestinian Muslim. Look at it this way. When your own leadership and your own people in the streets are telling the world that the things they see on the news and the actions taken by Muslims are core to the fiber of their culture, we are going to believe them. It has nothing to do with hating Islam and everything to do with believing your own eyes and ears. Perhaps you don't care about the perception of Islam in the western world, and perhaps you are silently complicit in these beliefs. One thing is for certain. If Muslims don't do their best to shout from the rooftops in an effort to discredit people like the man in the video from the OP, Islam will never be treated as a religion of peace. Should decent people speak out again and again every time someone advocates the molestation of children? Not only should you speak out, you should be doing WHATEVER IT TAKES to discredit and bring people like this down from their position of power within your religion. THESE ARE YOUR LEADERS!
Quite agree with you. do google image search "israeli children" and "palestinian children", can you see some differences?
Let me tell you a secret in my heart. I believe in the following: They are not all alike. Of the People of the Scripture there is a staunch community who recite the revelations of Allah in the night season, falling prostrate (before Him). (113) They believe in Allah and the Last Day, and enjoin right conduct and forbid indecency, and vie one with another in good works. These are of the righteous. (114) And whatever good they do, they will not be denied the meed thereof. Allah is Aware of those who ward off (evil). (115) The Jewish state of Israel is composed of one ethnicity mainly, the jews are the children of Israel, peace be upon him. Don't worry, I no longer complain about your crimes. I complain about the muslims' silence toward you. Increase in your crimes as you wish, but know that the happy end is for the slaves of the Truth, not for criminals.
can someone answer me this, Islam belives that jesus was a prophet, but he is a jew, is he an infidel now????
No, he is not an infidel. He is one of our masters, peace be upon him and his noble mother. The infidel are those who tried to kill him.
In other words, the Jews(not just the state of Israel). Thank you, Polite Teen, for backing up an argument I made earlier in response to bfebrian. You obviously believe in the basis of the anti-Semetic rant put forward by the cleric in the video. @Bfebrian: Why spend your time making the argument that these are not the beliefs of "real" Muslims? There may well be Muslims out there who don't believe we need to purge the earth of Jews. So far the biggest opposition to this priest's words we've heard from Muslims on this forum goes something like ... "maybe we don't need to kill them all, but we do need to be wary of them". Perhaps it is more of a scale? Perhaps the more moderate Muslims are OK with just stripping them of their nation and their land and subjugating them to Islamic law. Only the more radical Muslims(most of them?) feel the need to exterminate them.
jews is dangeraous people on the world. Jews have not land. They imperialism to palestine. That's why HITLER very HATE and DISLIKE about JEWS people.
you do that, i have better things to do. say what you want to say, i really don't care. i believe in islam, that's it. i don't really care what other people says. no, they not my leader. i have my own leader, not them. being a muslim cleric doesn't make them my leader. if you see a crazy people in the street talk nonsense about you, will you be bother to explain to every people that he only talk nonsense? or just walk away? because smart people will know that he only talk nonsense.
You aren't the only Muslim who agrees with Hitler in regards to Jews. Maybe you should explain to bfebrian about true Islamic beliefs, because he seems to be drifting towards becoming an infidel. How about when a crazy person threatens you and your family. You sound unconcerned but Muslim on Muslim violence exceeds anything done to infidels, despite the fact clerics like this one preach violence against infidels.
These people do not really represent Muslims as whole just as Timothy McVeigh do not necessarily represent Christians as a whole. You no mind to think logic or something? Who died and give you right to say that this "Mosab Hassan Yousef" is "well-respected Palestinian Muslim"? He was a SNITCH for Israel, you know what snitch is? Spy, informer, someone on the inside....spying for negara haram Israel. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2010/02/25/2010-02-25_hamas_prince_who_was_spy_for_israel.html Know what punishment for spying is? All countries have same rule, no exception. So who trusts a spy to say silly things, except for those addicts on Fox News? Stupid source to refer to and you think this person is autoriti in Islam? Ha ha you really make me laugh! Stupid people who do not know talk about Islam and know only nonsense...think they know all.
Q. Did Timothy McVeigh commit his act in the name of Christianity? A. No Q. Did Timothy McVeigh advise others to do as he did? A. No Q. Do Christian clerics advise genocide without being repudiated by all christians? A. No. Of course this cleric does not speak for all Muslims but, as you can see from this very thread, he has a lot of support from people who think as he does, including you. So being the son of the founder of Hamas, what would be his motivation for lying about Muslim beliefs or about atrocities and torture being committed by Hamas on a daily basis? Only in application to spies from other countries. All countries also have spies. The information provided by those spies is generally relied upon to make decisions, and therefore treated as truthful. Just because Mosab Hassan was a spy does not mean his information on Hamas' regular use of torture, or Islamic belief in the need to purge the Jews is inaccurate. If anything, it lends credibility to that information. http://loganswarning.com/2010/03/05...-hannity-moderate-islam-does-not-exist-video/ This guy is all over the internet and practically every news outlet. Just because Al Jezeera wont cover him doesn't mean his story isn't true. Nobody, including his father, the founder of Hamas, disputes that he was privy to the information he is now publishing. Only a moron would dismiss it as lies just because Fox covered the story as well. By your post, I can tell you are upset, but you arent angry because he is lying, you are angry because it is one of your inner circle telling the truth. I suppose its hard to call out the US for harsh interrogation when Palestinians make regular use of torture.
- The infidel are those who tried to kill him. The quote from Obamanation ignores exactly the opposite from the Muslim and find it interesting the Jews as a religion are being blamed by supposedly a Christian for a political / moral malfeasant they themselves ignored and are no less culpable....all betray Christ, the organized religions of script. The Garden not script is the true harbinger of God.
So, in English, any religion that ignores the Jews culpability in the death of Christ is equally culpable for his death? Jesus, and those responsible for killing him, have been rotting for nearly two thousand years. Since then, Catholics coexist with Protestants, Irish coexist with the English, the American Indians have Casinos, and the US has a Black President. Don't you think its about time to let it go?
me? why? you know me better than me? for that i will respond more seriously. i tried to find a neutral source of muslim and jews relationship. i found this, i do not have any problem with jews, i do not reject jews. what i reject is the illegal state of israel.
This is great brother. You have really said 100% right. Quran is the only book from whome one can get right guidence.
Many interesting points have been made and I want to thank everyone who has contributed by sharing information and thoughts. My question is mostly about the following: He quotes scripture. Regardless of interpretation, he mentions passages of the Quaran and they appear to support his belief. Now, I am well aware of the fact that all over the world there are Muslims who do not reject Jews, as there are Muslims who do. But regardless of what your personal belief is, how do you feel about those words in the Quaran? Do they challenge your belief? Do you think that it was just Muhammed's anger towards Jews which you are not obligated to live by? If personally you are ok with a certain group of people, yet the book which is held high as a guidance through life so to speak singles them out as an enemy, then how does it alter your state of mind and how is it impacting your daily walk? I know this is a touchy subject and once again, I want to thank anybody who participates in hope that some positive solutions can be brought forth.
They make a surah/chapter that in itself is a miracle not just a documentation of FACTS. And if ye are in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto Our slave (Muhammad), then produce a surah of the like thereof, and call your witness beside Allah if ye are truthful. (23) Then, if ye do it not - and ye can never do it - then guard yourselves against the Fire prepared for disbelievers, whose fuel is of men and stones. (24) And give glad tidings (O Muhammad) unto those who believe and do good works; that theirs are Gardens underneath which rivers flow; as often as they are regaled with food of the fruit thereof, they say: this is what was given us aforetime; and it is given to them in resemblance. There for them are pure companions; there for ever they abide. (25) No, at all. They increase our awareness and balance. I think you are brainwashed against our prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him and his family. I would read the book completely to reach the balanced condition, and I would pray to God to show me the proper way, too. We believe in the Quran as a whole, not pick one verse and ignore the others. May God guide you and me and all those honest to Himself, the Manifest Truth. Amen.
If you think I am brainwashed, then feel free to dry my brain and bring clarity into those passages. What was the circumstances surrounding the passages quoted when originally written?
I'd like to know about the verses which he referred to about Jews and how you believe Muhammad meant them when he wrote them.