Islam

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Blogmaster, Mar 7, 2010.

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    How do the Muslim members here feel about this video?

    [video=youtube;_X8dhrzQCHY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X8dhrzQCHY&feature=player_embedded[/video]
     
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  2. kashifyy

    kashifyy Peon

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    i feel nothing... i don't learn religions on internet
     
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  3. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    I think he was looking for a statement of Muslim opinion about the teachings of this Muslim cleric and how they coincide with your own Muslim beliefs, not about whether the internet was a good place to learn about religion, or anything else.

    Its kind of like when a journalist asks Nancy Pelosi about Charlie Rangel. Everyone already knows the right answer, but nobody actually expects to hear it.
     
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  4. Truth777

    Truth777 Peon

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    "The Judgement day will not come until you fight the jews and kill them."
    That guy (the muslim cleric) is a total moron. How can one even believe a single word he says? He has no love of God at all, but just fanatical hatred for jews....

    And BTW, I bet muslims love to hear and follow people like him.... That's why muslim societies are where they are today - way behind everybody else in the civilized world.....
     
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    This fanatic stone-age satelite TV channel broadcasting from our dear neighbours in Egypt (a country where 50% of the people can't read and write...) to the whole arab world is called: "el - rahma" which in Arabic means: "the mercy". Kind of reminds me "the religion of peace"...... at least this guys have self humor?...

    There are lots of nazi footages from this TV channel on youtube, and this is my favorite which I title as "The muslim woman's user's manual"
    [video=youtube;fIlQq4NiSzE]The muslim woman user's manual[/video]
     
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    When I was a kid I'd have been truly shocked to know that people like this still existed in a modern world; now it seems more shocking that for the first day in ages I didn't read a single news headline about someone being stoned, whipped or blown up.
     
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    that guys looks like bush jr with a white beard.
     
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    samser_m Well-Known Member

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    I would suggest those who really want to know Islam please go through original Quran. Why have used original because so many misguided non-Islamic sites are there who try to make users fool providing even false Quran. Also Dr. Zakir Naik's video - may get on you tube
     
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  9. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Again, the OP was not about spreading "false" beliefs about the Quran or about Muslims. It was a question posed to the Muslims of this forum, which there are many, as to how they felt about what was said by the Muslim cleric in the video. Its only been a day, but you don't exactly see a long list of Muslims posting here with outrage that someone calling themselves a Muslim would profess such beliefs. This whole thread illustrates a very large problem within the Muslim community. Failure to react indicates a subtle and implicit agreement with what is being said. Just claiming his teachings are not those of Islam is not enough.

    If an American politician were to praise and recommend the sexual molestation of babies, you wouldn't just hear Americans saying "He doesn't represent us". You would see Americans rise up against such a person. If you were to see a Catholic priest claiming it is OK to beat your wife, you wouldn't just see Catholics saying "he doesn't represent true Catholicism". You would see the priest stripped of his status and hated by Catholics worldwide. Failure by the Muslim community to react to other Muslim clerics espousing such hatred indicates an implicit agreement with what is being said, much like a bunch of white guys in the deep south in the 1950s who wouldn't say anything about the lynching of a black man.

    The lack of Muslim posts on this thread speaks loudly, and it doesn't say anything good.
     
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    There will be only one religion or lack of that will be the cause for final Judgment and how the last order is arrived at will be as the same as the belief and attaining the goal within the limits of the individual than aggregative assault is clearly the fault of the above cleric that I am sure is understood by ordinary Muslims that if theirs is the true religion all will fall before it by is teachings than the sword for it to pass the Final Judgment by God for Remittance.
     
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    Refresher Notable Member

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    He looks like the photoshoped pic of Bush's face in Osama's features :p
     
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    I disagree with the cleric in somethings, but I agree that the jews are dangerous people.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    What things do you disagree with? Which ones do you agree with? Which ones do you have no opinion on?
     
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    And I have another question to add.
    How many jews did you get to know personally? (not just maybe saw, but got to know personally)
    How many Israelis did you get to know?
     
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    I disagree that we must kill the jews who work for justice and prevent murdering Palestinians and steeling their land and properties.

    I agree that the jews are dangerous creatures.

    I have a question for you: What do you think about people who know the truth, then judge with falsehood?
     
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    #16
    what the point?
    as typical as blogmaster, he create a thread for bashing islam and hide his ass in the hole.
    this is not the first thread that he created for bashing islam.

    and i not yet forget, how much a liar he is.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Whats the point in complaining about those who admonish child molestation, wife beating, or murder. The point is that you show you are a moral human being first and a Muslim second. The point is you show that Muslims stand in pure opposition to the views presented by these "Muslim scholars". It keeps you from being a religion of people who mostly silently endorse videos like the ones above. For instance, just two posts above, a self proclaimed Muslim on this forum, Polite Teen, is quoted as saying "jews are dangerous creatures". Lets take his words and change the application. Muslims are dangerous creatures(not human). Does that sound like bigotry to you? Notice he did not distinguish between the ethnicity and the Jewish state of Israel. As I said earlier, it speaks loudly.

    I can appreciate that any series of posts that continually single out a particular group begin to grow tiresome. I certainly see enough of them from the Muslims on this forum complaining about Israel, or US detention of terror suspects, or on how NATO is conducting the war in Afghanistan. There is, however, a difference between this particular thread and most of the US/Israel bashing threads created by the terrorist sympathizers here. This thread does not bash anyone. These are the recorded words of a Muslim Cleric, and the OP asks how Muslims feel about those words. Nothing more, nothing less. If you feel the repetition of those videos are an insult to Islam, perhaps you should do something about it, like 1) speaking out against the ideas of this priest and 2) leading the charge in marginalizing him and his influence.
     
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    why should i do that?
    should i speak out against all the crazy ideas that anyone throw out in this forum?
    and if i'm not, than people assume that i agree with the ideas?

    should some muslim speak out, and explain again and again and again and again if this kind of thread appear in dp?
    so many questions that already answered by fine muslim here in dp, but then people like blogmaster will keep ask the question again and again.
     
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  19. Truth777

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    So the question now is which Quran is the good and nice one. Because so many muslim run to defend it by saying the quran the terrorist use was not the right one.
    Please don't give us the BS that it cannot be translated. The Divine ideas can be translated with their meaning. It may require longer explanations, but it pretty much can be done.
    For example the words beat, stone, kill, submit, peace, love can easily be translated.
    The style of the author's expression is harder for translation, but the meaning is not that hard to translate.

    Basically we got so many millions of people stuck in a teaching that is not about peace and love..... I would love to be proven wrong.
     
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    samser_m Well-Known Member

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    May almighty Allah show us the right path!

    Take a look: http://www.searchtruth.com/chapter_display.php?chapter=1&translator=2&mac=

    English translations are available there.
     
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