Child Molesters

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Rick_Michael, Aug 19, 2006.

  1. #1
    Some general thoughts I've been pondering...

    I'm sure not all cases of molestation are something your born to do, but I'm fairly certain that some of these child molesters are born prone toward molestation. Now I don't want to insult anyone, but here's a comparison...

    A gay man--for the most part (I believe), is born gay. So essentially I think it would be very hard to make him straight. Does anyone here think (hypothetically) you could tell a gay man by law that if he commits an act of homosexuality he'll go to jail...and he'll listen...so why.....

    Given that's the case with child molesters, why do we let them out of jail, as most of them commit offense continually? If we morally oppose child molesting, why do we let out those prone (by genetics) out? There's cases where molesters were molested and it's a mental problem...but in the cases in which they're genetical prone, why would we take the chances of them molesting others?

    Curious on your thoughts......
     
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    I think if it was up to general public most, if not all, convicted child molesters would be put to death but because our law makers are complete morons a child molester is allowed to live happily within a community and even more worrying beside a school.

    What really concerns me is that child molesters come from all lifestyles such as judges, priests to my next-door neighbor so how much trust can you really put in someone when it comes to your child’s safety?

    I remember seeing a documentary on British TV about child molesters and it was discussing about this manual called "how to be child molester" - it was an actually f****** manual on how to groom children and befriend their parents.....flipping sick bastards!
     
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  3. Rick_Michael

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    I'm not sure a death penalty would be appropriate, although on the other note, I wouldn't be that sad if that happened. My buddy has that sort of mentality...he hates molesters...sometimes I wonder if something happened to him, but I don't ask.

    Background check anyone that's around your child alone. Paranoid, yes, but it's worth it.

    The internet has everything.


    You'd think that a manual that promotes illegal action would be illegal!? Hell, where's the how to rob a bank, and rape and murder manual?
     
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    I don’t think the death penalty would be either as nobody as who has the right to say when someone’s life should end? I do believe a convicted molester should be locked away for life and when I say life, I mean life, not 5 or 10 years.

    A buddy of mines was molested by a trusted family friend and now he is really messed up and I believe that’s his life ruined. What makes me angry is the guy is still free to walk the streets, 15 years later.


    Back ground checks are not as easy over here as information isn’t made widely available as it would be in say the U.S. - I did a background check on myself when living in the States and I was amazed the info I got back, tried it for over here and its if I didn’t exist.



    Interesting you say that as the documentary was saying the manual wasn’t enough to convict someone because it was 'exactly' illegal to have it in possesion back to the law being complete morans.
     
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  5. Rick_Michael

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    I've dated numerous women that have been either beaten or molested as a child. It truely impairs their judgement, no matter how good a person they are. I'd say I'm overly forgiving to those whom went situations like that.

    In some cases it's too easy here. From a full name and location, I can get SS numbers.

    Every country should have American laws concerning molestation. Have them listed publically...truely clarifying that their privacy is less important than the health and welfare of children.
     
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    I totally agree and I liked the fact you can go onto a website punch in your zip code and get information on sex offenders living in your area. I was amazed to see there was over 20 sex offenders in my community in NY State but was even more amazed they all lived in walking distance of three schools.

    Information like that would be dangerous in some countries as people would take the law into their own hands and I know Ireland would be one of those places. As far as I remember the public here are pushing to have that kind of information available just like the States.
     
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    A friend of mine told me that her aunt is redating a man from the past. That man she said molested her as a child. She only told me her secret, but won't tell her aunt or allow me to tell her. So I did it anyway and now she wont speak to me for doing so. I just hope she got help.
     
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    Its a confusing thing when someone tells you something like this as the first emotion that comes to mind is anger and confusion. Its a pity your friend wont speak to you now as I am sure you were just trying to be a helpful person and try and protect her.
     
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    From what I heard they seldom take the law in their own hands here...although I could see it being different elsewhere. On some level I like the three strikes rule we have in cali (even though I think it should more or less apply to things like this not small things). I'd say once and your in for a while, twice and your in permanent.
     
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    I had to speak out. When she was telling me her horror, the emotions she expressed and the hatred she possed durring that time, it scared the living sh** out of me. Its been 2 years now. I think of her a lot. But, I hope to never ever have a close friend of many years to spill such horror to me again. I will listen if one will talk and tell it too if asked to hide it also.
     
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    3 strikes? Am I hearing you right, 3 strikes for child molestation (or, you're modified version, 2), and you're out?

    Afraid, if so, I cannot agree. One strike, and you bloody well better not be put in a room with me, or some other parent - so your ass isn't taken apart by the parent, one strike, and you're consigned to the dustbin of history, or a short tenure in general population. Buh bye.
     
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    Many child molesters were themselves molested. It's no exuse for their behavior. But, we as a society need to do more to identify and help children who are molested to really solve the root of this terrible problem.
     
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    I blame the parents How about a bit of supervision, people? I get called over-protective, but I know what my kid is doing at any given time and he is a 19 year old and it’s always been that way and it always will be that way I don’t care if he is 155 years old that’s my job as a responsible parent . To the best of my understanding, that’s all part of the “parent” job I thought becoming an adult meant taking responsibility for your own actions?. We should hold the parents responsible for endangering their own children by not doing simple common-sense things like locking the door and windows or holding their hand in a mall and it would be a good idea not to let them roam around town by their selves.We should Put these “bad parents” in jail for years for endangering a child and contributing to the crime.and this latest one where a lawyer killed a man for allegedly molesting his 2 year old. I want to ask a question where was these “bad parents” when this man allegedly molested this 2 year old. I guess it doesn’t matter when the Media and these “bad parents” are looking for a scapegoat and of course the key ingredients of this scapegoating campaign are sex and children. Time to face reality You don’t need a village to raise a child You need responsible parents and the government to mind their own bizwacks when it comes to raising children.
     
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    I know of some "bad parents" who invited their friend, a surgeon, to be the God Father to their newborn son. As the boy grew up the god father would take the boy camping. Those "bad parents" knew where their son was. When their son started to go off the rails they asked the God Father to intervene.

    He's since done time for molesting the boy and 6 others.

    I didn't know the boy or his parents. I did know the God Father, he was the father of a good friend. Don't tell me the boys parents were "bad". This man was a vile snake who betrayed their trust and hopefully didn't destroy the lives of those boys.

    He's out now, but as a parent myself, I'd feel safer if he, and the rest of them, were never released.
     
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    It's one thing being sick enough to want to have sex with a child. It's another one to act upon it on top of that. Those dudes should be shot.
     
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    Ok you know of some "bad parents" who invited "Their Friend" to be the God Father to their newborn son and As the boy grew up the "god father":rolleyes: would take the boy camping. question where was these "bad parents" when this man molested their son. were the "bad parents" too busy to take their son camping??:confused: that’s all part of the "parent" job I thought becoming an adult meant taking responsibility for your own actions?.We should Put these "bad parents" in jail for years for endangering a child and contributing to the crime. I guess it doesn't matter when the Media and these "bad parents" are looking for a "scapegoat" and of course the key ingredients of this "scapegoating" campaign are sex and children. Time to face reality You don't need a village to raise a child You need responsible parents and the government to mind their own bizwacks when it comes to raising children.
     
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    So you're saying I'm a bad parent for handing over control of my children to other people. Does that mean my friends are bad parents when their children play at my house? What of the teachers who molest? I shouldn't be sending my children to school? Get over it. I can't and won't smother or isolate my children from the world.

    As a child I loved the time I had to roam the beaches and explore on my own and with friends. Not only was it good for me, and safe - I desperately needed time away from a parent I didn't particularly get on with.
     
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    Molesters are well known for being able to groom not only the child but also the childs parents. The molester becomes a loyal family friend and could possible spend months just to build that friendship up and become trusted within the family before actually doing ay act of molesting. This is actually in the 'how to be a child molester' manual that I posted about above.

    Abuse also happens within the family circle such as the father or uncle but also by trusted people from the community as in priests, teachers or even community workers so supervision is impossible to a certain degree.
     
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    The sin of child molestation is the abuse of the helpless. It is not enough, in fact, it is of no consequence to the world that a man may be "born to sin" ALL men are born to sin and trouble. A homosexual participating in the act of homosexuality is doing so presumably with someone of like mind. It is victimless. A man molestring a child is quite different, reprehensible, and deserves the greatest of punishments.

    In the old days he would have received them. In g-pop, amongst the other convicts. Today liberalistic laws preclude such inclusion. Molesters are "protected" - get their own rooms on their own wards, and then, once again, because of liberal attitudes, do indeed get let out to do it again. The highest rate of recidivism of ALL criminality.

    I say take a hammer and turn their dicks into those little pancakes kids love so much, seeing as they love kids so much and all, then put them in g-pop where they belong.

    IN Christ
     
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    Did you know that in Turkey young girls are forced into anal sex to keep their virginity?
    There's a german lawyer lady with turkish background. She had to close her office because of overwhelming threats.
    I'll keep you informed when the interview is translated into English.
     
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