Dealing with fraud on Digitalpoint

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  1. #1
    Hello everyone,

    This is not the first time I am targeted by fraud but as it has happened here, I want to discuss it with forum members and possibly admins to find a way to stop more occasions.

    - 3 days ago someone from Pakistan (same as this member) sells me 9 supposedly copyscape passed, original articles about diet. After I copyscape them I find all of the articles are copied from a "diet textbook" and they are not even reworded/rewritten. I contact the guy and after he/she finds I have discovered her/his fraud he stops responding to me and runs away with the money. I ask the seller to refund my money but she/he claims she/he has sold them for someone else and she rejects to refund.

    The above claim is obviously a lie because we have contacted several times before and after the transaction on "Gmail" and the paypal account which I transfered the money is exactly connected to the gmail account she/he (the above user) is using. He/she then stops replying emails and runs away with my money.

    Her/His information (from paypal):
    Mian H A shah
    Email:
    Her/his place (from here) : Pakistan, Islamabad.


    See this thread for more information.

    I have found more people doing this on forum and soon or later they will rob more people. See this for example:


    - Now today I want to buy more articles and i find a guy which sells articles about diet. I copyscape his sample text (provided to show his/her writing style) and I see it has also been copied from a text book. See bellow thread for more information:

    See this thread for more info

    - I guess the method these people use, is to find textbooks, make sure they are not available on the internet and do not appear on search and then copy and sell them for money. What a shame...

    - Now what we should do about these people? We should loose money and perhaps even worse, the reputation of our websites (because of Plagiarism)?

    What do you suggest?

    Thanks.
     
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2010
    wmac, Feb 25, 2010 IP
  2. johnsonp

    johnsonp Peon

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    #2
    Beware of such type of fraud people. Everywhere they are roaming here and there to get some fraud money in internet. I lost some money by purchasing bux auto software. Actually this is freely available on net.

    Ask moderator to ban them permanently.
     
    johnsonp, Feb 25, 2010 IP
  3. benjaminp

    benjaminp Guest

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    Leave a negative iTrader
     
    benjaminp, Feb 25, 2010 IP
  4. wmac

    wmac Member

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    If you are robbed let's say $100, will leaving that itrader make things ok? they signup with another account and start again. Besides you have lost $100 and itrader cannot fix that.

    I have not even done any trade with the new guy I just found. How can I leave itrader for him.
     
    wmac, Feb 26, 2010 IP
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    clickexa Active Member

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    Leave a negative iTrader and mention this in detail. At least other webmasters will save their hard earned money.
     
    clickexa, Feb 26, 2010 IP
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    SELINA47 Peon

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    if you have sent money as goods or services in paypal, you can open a dispute, and you will get the money back
     
    SELINA47, Feb 26, 2010 IP
  7. wmac

    wmac Member

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    I sent as goods but when they asked what goods it has been, I did not wanted to lie and said it has been articles (content product).

    When I changed the dispute into claim it was reviewed and closed saying that they only accept claims on physical goods.
     
    wmac, Feb 26, 2010 IP
  8. wmac

    wmac Member

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    wmac, Feb 26, 2010 IP
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    nitinleew Well-Known Member

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    Don't worry.just open a dispute.also,if he create another account,the forum leaders will ban them both
     
    nitinleew, Feb 26, 2010 IP
  10. wmac

    wmac Member

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    They did not even ban the first account.

    They are a team of members it seems. They have thousands of these copied articles and they WILL sell them to poor members of this forum.

    It's a shame.
     
    wmac, Feb 26, 2010 IP
  11. zodiac

    zodiac Peon

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    don't give money that you can't afford to be ripped off.that simple.
    if it is a lot for you,use some escrow.
     
    zodiac, Feb 26, 2010 IP
  12. Larry S:)

    Larry S:) Well-Known Member

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    #12
    Good advice

    Also use iTrader recommendations

    And check with Copyscape before you buy

    Larry
     
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    very sad to hear that ,
    brother you can leave negatie itrade for him if he has done fraud and you can get your money back by doing dispute via paypal !
     
    lion21, Feb 27, 2010 IP
  14. getjimmy

    getjimmy Prominent Member

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    #14
    Avoid ordering from people with low post/itraders. My best advice will be to use site like GAF, elance and use escrow to pay them.
     
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    getjimmy, Feb 27, 2010 IP
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    few days back i sold an ebook to dp member , and he opened dispute in paypal that he didn't got the ebook, i don't know how he did this...he got his money back
    in my case buyer did the fraud :(
     
    SELINA47, Feb 27, 2010 IP
  16. radhika.writer

    radhika.writer Well-Known Member

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    #16
    Well this happens when you deal with unprofessional noobs just in order to save few cents. Why don't you guys hire people after seeing their reviews and itraders though they can charge bit high but at least you can be sure of their quality, and then you don't have to start these types of threads to stop frauds on DP.

    Mods and admins cant do anything in this, its we people who can take initiatives to stop all this mess. Start dealing with reputed sellers/buyers and you don't have to face these issues in future. Choose between quality work or cheap work. "Cheap" itself says I am "cheap".

    Thanks
     
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    radhika.writer, Feb 27, 2010 IP
  17. getjimmy

    getjimmy Prominent Member

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    Problem is you cannot trust those high price writers as well, there is no guarantee that you will get good articles from writers charging high price, in most cases, they themselves outsource to cheap writers to make some money.

    So always start with 2-3 articles to test the quality of articles.
     
    getjimmy, Feb 27, 2010 IP
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    There's a simple and effective suggestion for avoiding this. Don't buy anything from a source you know nothing about.
    Investigate BEFORE you buy. Positive reviews of a known source are key.

    I only buy from sources that are well known and have positive reviews. If one does otherwise, then you pretty much
    get what you deserve, and you got no sympathy from me.
     
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  19. guide4everything

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    Hello,what do you mean by this post.
    You are telling indirectly that newbies are frauds and who don't have more posts and i traders are frauds.
     
    guide4everything, Feb 27, 2010 IP
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    sawz Prominent Member

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    where did this email address come from? who uses it?
     
    sawz, Feb 27, 2010 IP
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