Israeli spies carrying out 'racial profiling' at International Airports

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  1. Stevenetomed

    Stevenetomed Greenhorn

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    #181
    Race Does Not Mean Racism

    Most of the hijackings have been done by Muslims, so Israel security takes a harder look at Muslims. There are many black Muslims, so since passports do not mention religion they take a hard look at blacks.

    Is this any different than what an FBI psychological profiler does? They look at the deeds done and make a profile of the type of person who is most likely to commit that crime and then they look for people that fit that profile.

    The profile for hijackers says Muslims are most likely to commit these crimes so Israel targets these people, and not just people getting on a flight. In the past, Muslims have used non Muslims to carry bombs and things onto flights unknowingly, so security take a look at people who are hanging around the airport as well.

    If I was a police officer in NYC and I get a call over the radio to be on the lookout for a black male 6 feet tall with a hat, is it racist if I then question someone who fits that description? Or should the police be politically correct and say be on the lookout for a 6 foot tall male, because that would make catching criminals soooooo much easier.

    Calling this spying is just silly it's not like they infiltrated the government and were trying to steal secrets, they just wanted to make sure that people flying el al would reach their destinations without incident.
     
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  2. new

    new Peon

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    #182

    and the last line made me LOL real hard ... Calling this spying is just silly ... lol what do we call it ..., isreali florist selling flowers ?

    and I agree that isrealis didn't infiltrate ... considering that being the chosen ones they literally own the world so definitely South-Africa is also a part of their kinngdom of 'Greater Isreal" so yes, they certainly didn't infiltrate

    and all these xyz examples that you gave ...do you realize that ISREAL WASN'T ON THEIR OWN SOIL WHILE DOING THIS ? no one is stopping them from doing whatever they want in their country or stopping USA from doing whatever it wants on its territory

    but you won't understand any of it
    for people like you even if a chosen ones lines up hundred kids and shoots them ... that would be justified .
     
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  3. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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  4. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #184

    Do you realize that all that "soil" you are talking about was ISRAEL's long before you guys made up the cult of Islam?
     
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  5. new

    new Peon

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    #185
    now that is more like it, your true inner urge and the 'itch' that you have is speaking out..
    thanks for being honest, for once!

    I sympathize. you lost so much .. must be bad .. my condolences
     
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  6. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #186
    WTF are you talking about???
     
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  7. Stevenetomed

    Stevenetomed Greenhorn

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    #187

    yes i realize Israel was not doing this on their soil, but do you realize they were doing this to people trying to fly on the Israeli airline or hanging around the el al counter

    if this was spying as you claim why was the agent not thrown in jail?

    and since you seem to feel that Israel owns the world then they were doing it on their own soil, but do you think the airport did not know israel had security agents in the airport. i would bet the real problem was that they were using race to profile which is illegal in many countries, but the fact is it works.

    but the real point is that who cares about this. so what israel was trying to make sure no one got killed on on of their flights or near their counter.

    the only people this should bother is someone who wants to see Israelis get killed.

    even if you are against israel you should not want to see anyone get killed. (i dont mean u personally)
     
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  8. new

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    #188
    there was reason when I said
    "for people like you even if a chosen ones lines up hundred kids and shoots them ... that would be justified ."

    so hell yes. this too would be for isreal need to protect its own citizens

    don't make yourself look like a clown while trying to defend the illegal actions
    agent did get thrown out of the country ... if all was legal why was he thrown out? anti-semite SArican's perhaps ?
     
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  9. Stevenetomed

    Stevenetomed Greenhorn

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    #189
    see this is why no one should take you seriously, and why many people hate Muslims.

    first of all you do not know me, so do not start telling me what i would justify, did i post some where that i would be ok with that?

    can you even see the difference between lining people up and shooting them and someone being questioned in an airport?

    please if we never agree on anything else please admit that you do see a difference.

    i did not say that racial profiling was legal, i said it works. what i said was if they though he was a spy and did not know that he was an Israeli agent he would have been arrested, but they just threw him out, and it was probably because racial profiling was most likely illegal in SA
     
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  10. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #190
    lol at terrorists who can't get on airplanes.

    lol at imad and new for trying to get people to feel bad for the Islamic terrorist who don't get to fly. Poor Islamic terrorists, why are they so discriminated against?
     
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  11. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #191
    so much hatred an alleged manipulation can be found :p
     
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  12. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #192
    just to add one more for the hypocrites.

    It's so funny how they find things and at the other hand I haven't seen one, never ever and probably never will see a Muslim abiding by the law of the Land where they reside apart from their origin.

    By reading their book and follow it by the word is crime already, no matter in what fashion they present themselves at the outside. And oh yes, they look like dressed up clowns having 365 days in the carnival of hatred.

    Goodness, I even had the Syrian hackers on my sites recently. You know who you are and would you mind have somebody going after you? Years ago it were the Turkish hackers here on DP. Real IDs have been traced so far I know. Identity theft will be an issue as well for the stolen supplied email addresses on your deface, lol.

    The black thing look like dogs head
    [​IMG]
     
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  13. ChaosTrivia

    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    #193
    Syrian hackers?
    puh. sounds weird. are you sure?
    Syria is a very cruel and dark dictatorship where, per government policy, the internet is not accessible.
    Less than 5% of the Syrian households have access to the internet (mostly government/party related people).
    All access is subject to extremely tight control of the government. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSOWE37285020071123 ....
    stone age....
     
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  14. new

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    #194
    oh yes
    did isreal did something illegal .? yes
    do you condemn isreal for doing so ? no
    why ? because isreal is doing for a "greater cause"

    a crime remains crime no matter how you look on it ... if is is that necessary and good to carry out sypying and profiling than why not amend the laws and make it is constitutional ?

    just because you feel that 'it is good' does not mean that you should be allowed to break the law
    every country has its own rules and laws and you should respect and follow those . being isreali does not give you the permit to break the laws of a 3rd state because it is good for isreal and doing so should be denounced and condemned
     
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  15. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #195
    Some who live outside Syria. Recently a few were arrested. After all it's about the bomb. (and Students)
     
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  16. robjones

    robjones Notable Member

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    #196
    LOL. I left this thread January 2, and New is still repeating the same argument. By his logic, crossing the street against the lights to stop a rapist puts you in the same category as the rapist.
    After all, jaywalking is a crime too.

    Give it up kid. Nobody's buying it. :p
     
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  17. Stevenetomed

    Stevenetomed Greenhorn

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    #197
    you are correct i do not condemn Israel or any country that uses profiling to protect innocent lives.

    the people they protected by doing this were not just israelis. you may know this but people other than Jews fly EL AL.

    so did they break a law- sure, did he deserve to get kicked out of SA once caught- Sure

    but once again i say the only people who would really be bothered by this are people looking to do something wrong.

    i don't drink so i don't mind when i get stopped in a DUI check point.

    i don't carry out suicide bombings or hijackings so i don't mind when i get questioned at the airport.

    but i very much do mind when some Muslim gets on a flight and tries to blow it up with hidden explosives in his underwear that did not get found because of incompetent security checks.

    maybe if some racial profiling had been done in American airports 3000 people would not have been killed on Sept 11 2001

    and just because i am not sure if you answered my question of not, Do you see a difference between questioning a person due to their race and lining people up and shooting them.

    because if you do then it seems you are just trying to vilify Israelis by putting mental images of Jews doing what the Nazis did into peoples heads, and if you do not see a difference then you need mental help.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #198
    You don't know Arnie, if he says so it must be correct. Arnie is in constant contact with aliens and Men in Black, they communicate through a super secret communication chip that NSA has implanted in his brain, so he can send them secret informations. ;):D
     
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    #199
    Don't be cracking jokes about those chips... the little suckers really itch in cold weather and scratching doesnt seem to help.
     
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