Republicans: Democrats don't have a plan. Republican Plan: Stay the course!

The people fighting in Iraq are mostly locals

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1576666,00.html

They not Al Queda, they were Iraqis who started fighting us and each other when we invaded

 

I think you forgot the important points of that little story.

The % of fighters who are foreign is not relevant. They are the ones insighting the violence and making it worse; and probably the ones providing the weaponry.

 

The important point is , if Iraq wants to have civil war should we stay and be in the middle of it?

You really think American soldiers should die baby sitting the Iraqis?

How many years of how it is now before you realize we don't belong there?

They can keep fighting like this forever, literally for the rest of our lifetimes.

 

This was spoken by Martin Luther King, Jr.

As Buckley writes:

 

Democrats never have a plan, they're just like Hyenas waiting for a weak spot in the Republican party and then hope that the country will overlook their lack of basically anything and vote for them to get back at the Repubs.

 

now Iraq is the same as vietnam? wow we really shouldn't have went in there

In case you don't know loerien the "communists' are now our biggest trade partner and we borrow tons of money from them

So what you are saying is we should have stayed in Vietnam longer? Are you retarded?

What is the repub plan? Stay in Iraq? Less seperation of church and state? what else? What is the republican agenda?

 

I guess if you read a single word in my post, you could make that point. But, alas. The point is that leaving now would yield the same results that we had in Vietnam after we left. Many more people being killed. Loss of a potential ally. Victory for the terrorists. Name them. Pulling out does not yield a single positive thing. Unless you think handing over Iraq to extreme Islam is a positive thing for our future international policy Giving Islam: Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon just as a start. That's a brilliant move.

Conversely, what is the democrat plan? Even the original poster isn't sure what the democrats want to do when/if they gain power? Complaining is no longer an option.

 

Do you know like something like 8,000 americans where dying a year in Vietanam?

So if we had stayed there another 5 years another 40,000 americans dead, so you think WE should die in place of vietnamese dying fighting for THEIR country. I'm willing to bet if you personally had to go over there you would feel a lot differently. And in the End what difference did it make? What would be different now? NOTHING.

You can't even answer the qustion, outside of tax cuts an repealing the estate tax what is the repub position? Other then injecting more god into goverment?

 

Yep, since we pulled out, the end result was the same. Glad you agree And that you want to repeat the same thing again...shocking. Unless you consider the final outcome in vietnam as the best possible outcome; I can't imagine why you'd want to have it happen again.

And you can't answer what the democrats stand for. The democrats are the ones that want to take the reigns. they are the ones who need to tell people why they should let them. Care to enlighten us?

 

Many, just like the Dems....

The religious part is overemphasized by the media. If you actually watch them on Cspan (and not speculate), you'll find both parties speak about a lot of stuff.

Energy, immigration, banking regulation, foreign policy, gun-rights, infrastructural demand, et al....

And I can name most of what their policies are (even though it's not all the same within the party).

 

I think they have too many coalitions; all with many diverse and different needs, which sometimes conflict.

They have some general policies, but many of their positions are just anti-repub/anti-bush positions....not really a direction.

 

That's my point. I hear a lot about what democrats don't want or don't like. I never hear anything positive from them. And while the tone of republicans is not always what I like; there is certainly nothing viable from the other side.

 

yeah but when you directions are as fucked as bush's , being anti-bush is a pretty good position.

Come on what are the repub postions

Drill more and keep the status quo, give massive subsides to energy companies who are making record profits

Jeez thats a great postion

get tough on immigration but not really because businesses love illegal immigration, how many new border agents has bush hired, what has actually been done?

got me there

war without end?, how much does the Iraq war cost a month? 9 billion, 9 BILLION a month for freaking nothing.

Who cares? you can buy a shot gun at walmart, and maybe you can't buy a pistol if you are ex-con, what else needs to be discussed?

ie massive pork projects

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/10/AR2005081000223.html

I don't know, but it kind of looks like just being anti-bush is a pretty good position

 

I think that's 3 posts in a row where you haven't posted anything positive about the democrat alternative. ABB may be a short term solution, but its not ripe for solid long term leadership. But what does that matter, right?

 

The only plan the democrats have is for the systematic destruction of america.

They wont let us drill or open up new refineries in this country cause it will upset their enviromentalist friends.

They are trying to shove net neutrality down our throats and take away the last bastion of free speech we have left. And give the internet to their telecom buddies.

Lets not forget about eminent domain and how all the liberal justices voted for it, and the conservative justices voted against taking away your land.

Now that im talking about the supreme court why do the liberal justices cite foreign laws in making their decisions, instead of making their decisions based off the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?

Here's a question for you. Which is worse the "conservative" controll of big oil, or the "liberal" ownership of the media? My vote can you guess it .

Now democrats, if you own any sort of online biz, where you generate income that provides for you or for your family, i dont understand how you can vote for the people and the party, who are going to take away your livelyhood and the abilty for you to earn a living.

anyway im done rambling, time to go get a pizza

 

Terrorism is a serious thing and I agree with the Bush administration that we should attack every muslimcountry in the world before they attack us. People who do not recognize this are terrorists themselves. You are either with us or against us.

 

Realism is that oil is running out, and burning it is screwing up the earth.

We can drill but its still a temporary solution, reality now is our economy subject to waht is going on saudi arabia, and venezuela

How about we don't susidize oil companies, and if are going to subsidize energy companies why don't we do it to companies that are actually building alternative energy, not like some token projects for pr purposes

I find this humorous that keep you repeating that talking point , for one we need legal immigration, and two illeagals can't vote. So what are you talking about, please explain what "mass immigration(in votes) is? And what you are talking about?

yeah but its what is really important

What are talking about? What shift? There is a shift towards militant islam, there is the shift of people who felt sorry for us after 9/11 starting to hate us. Where is there a shift toward democracy? Where in Iraq?

Um yeah whatever but please explain the increases in spending under the repubs, explain the massive defict spending, wern't you just posting something about all the money we are borrowing from china and japan? How is that a good thing?

Here you go

http://www.democrats.org/agenda.html

I can tell that #1 probably won't happen but at least the others are in the right direction.

The lobbying people are already making moves in anticipation

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/16/AR2006081601598.html

 

Nice platitudes and all; but none of those are real positions. At least be able to explain real positions instead of meaningless tripe

Its really hard to believe you are incapable of explaining a single democrat agenda item. Asked 4 times now

What's curiously missing from this wonderful list of items is a single position on Iraq or the War on Terror. I know democrats think that media conglomeration and Walmart are more of a threat to the US than anything else; but its (not very) surprisingly missing.

 

To me its a mute point. This is the only arguement democrats can make and its sad.