what are poison keywords? is forum one of them?

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  1. #1
    I want to know if google considers word forum as poison keyword?
    As far as i understand a poison keyword will prevent you from getting good ranks so i would like to know if google yahoo or msn considers word forum as poison keyword or not.
    Any one has a list of poison keywords? if they exist atall or any tool which can check my pages for poison keywords?

    Any help would be much appreciated.
     
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  2. Angelus

    Angelus Well-Known Member

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    This the first time that I've heard about poison keywords...
    Ignorance is bless ;)

    p.l.u.r.
     
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  3. sebastya

    sebastya Well-Known Member

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    Not sure if "forum" is a poison keyword, but I know "death" is.
     
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  4. Angelus

    Angelus Well-Known Member

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    Why is "death" a poison keyword? I don't see nothing wrong with it.
    Can you explain please?

    p.l.u.r.
     
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  5. smfseo

    smfseo Well-Known Member

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    Apperantly poison keywords are the ones which if you have then in your meta description or you use them as keywords on your pages they prevent you from getting good ranks :(
    i am looking for some expert openion on this pleaseee shed some ligh


    I have a few forums and i would like to stay away from the word forum and would kind of try to get my domain disassociated with word forum if thats whats preventing good ranks :(

    any info or links would be much appreciated coz every thing i have found about this is old stuff and i want to know if this is still relevant and does it apply wiht google atall or does google not care abotu poison words ?
     
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  6. sebastya

    sebastya Well-Known Member

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  7. smfseo

    smfseo Well-Known Member

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    Obelia Notable Member

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    "Death" is very likely to be an Adsense stop-word, but not a poison word. The two things are completely different concepts.

    Poisons words are believed to be keywords that Google has decided should reduce the value of links on a page. This is all speculation, obviously no-one knows for sure. Likely ones are forum, guestbook, link, directory, and resources. In other words, places where you're likely to find collections of links, and often spam links that are not placed there by the webmaster. A searcher might be less likely to want to find such a page in the SERPs, because they use a search engine to find information, and not to travel in an endless loop of directories and link pages. So pages with poison words in the title may appear lower in the SERPs.

    That's the theory, but like I said it's all speculation. Rename your titles if you're worried, but I wouldn't go any further than that.
     
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    hextraordinary Well-Known Member

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    Never heard about any of this. I doubt this whole thing all together.
     
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    For me forum is actually a great keyword. Loads of people are referred to iAudiophile from google with the keywords "iAudio forum".
     
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  11. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    There are no poison words for search engine rankings. You are probably talking about certain "stop words" that adsense and YPN don't like for showing ads. The two are completely unrelated.
     
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    I believe one of the poison keywords was "free" too. Seems Google is poisoning every keyword that seems very overly populated... Possibly to despam the sandbox.. :rolleyes: :cool:
     
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    So "google" is a poison keyword. "Yahoo" and "microsoft" too... and "Paris Hilton"? lol, kidding
     
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    smfseo Well-Known Member

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    Still havent got what i am looking for
    I am not worriedabout adsense or ypn I dont have adson many of my forums so that is not an issue.
    I am talking about search engine rankings and rankings alone and i am not confused about it I am looking for an answer for the same question still.

    Is forum a poison keyword for google? does having word forum or forums in title or description on home page kills search engine rankings ? And is there a reliable source where i can read about this wether this concept is even existant as far as google is concerned?
    some expert please have mercy !!!!!! I am not getting sleep at night help me out of this confusion plzz
     
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  15. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    What don't you understand about no? There are no poison words for search engine rankings, period. Have you ever done a search for "forum" (or any other keyword) and noticed that the top ranking sites are all using the word (or stemming variation)? Have you ever noticed how DigitalPoint ranks high for many, many terms and it's even on a sub-domain named "forums". Perhaps you can show us where you even read this?
     
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  16. Matthew7

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    There may not be any poison words for search engine rankings but there does seem to be a correlation between some words and google "page ranking" that would/could ultimately effect search engine rankings. However, I don't see why forum or forums would be a problem anyway.
     
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  17. smfseo

    smfseo Well-Known Member

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    I understand what you are saying but there is so much contradicting info on the net that its just killing me now dont know which way to go :(

    check this out http://www.widexl.com/remote/search-engines/metatag-analyzer.html

    Is this something reliable? if you use this meta tag analyser and you got forum in your description it tell you that you got a poison word in description
    what school did this guy study at?


    I am not saying you are wrong mjewel but i am just looking for a few more very reliable sources with the same info and a way to get this thing out of my mind if its all bullshit but i dont want to take chances either.

    just adding this aswell http://www.seobook.com/archives/001538.shtml it talks about poison words aswell in relation to search engine rankings.
     
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  18. mjewel

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    There can be objectionable content sites (like child porn) which google is going to ban from it's index, but just using the keyword isn't going to get you a ban. PageRank has absolutely nothing to do with the keywords or content on your site - it is determined 100% by backlinks to your site. A page with almost no content can get a high PR if it has backlinks. Google doesn't show PR for sites that have been banned.
     
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    Page rank isint my question mate
    I was talking about rankings in search engines.Not PR :(
     
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  20. mjewel

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    The article is talking about search engines giving less weight to "forums" (as in you site is a forum) in SERPS - which is entirely possible. Using a word "forum" isn't the problem, the search engines are detecting that a site is a forum, not a regular content site. Not calling your site a "forum" isn't going to fool the search engines if it is a forum.

    Let's say a person searches for "car reviews" - the search engines may give less weight to forums, so it might not return a forum site in the top results as they don't think users want a forum when they are searching for "car reviews". There is no way around that if your site is indeed a forum.
     
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