About you and your religion

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Mentalhead, Feb 9, 2010.

  1. masterrio

    masterrio Well-Known Member

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    #21
    I think you are going way out of context, when u believe a invisible deity as a god - Allah! There is nothing wrong with people worshiping animals, its not just hindus but various other religions across the world are known for worshiping certain animal breeds, muslims don't eat a pig and a regular hindu doesn't eat a cow, that's how the religions are formed and they should be respected, as what ever they are, rather than making a in-decisive conclusion as one's religion is better than the other, all are good and all are bad, you like it or not respect the others and their religions, that's the moral of a human life, if you can't follow that, then there is no use of teaching a dumb one lessons.

    I agree we may tend to hate a religion or a symbolism of a religion just that doesn't make the religion a crap, religion is some thing higher

    as far as eating the cow as concerned, if there are no cows left over, already the goats are eaten, there would be no production of milk and milk products, so better save a few if you want to consume milk products :p

    ps.: no offense to any one or their religions :D
     
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    newbie191 Notable Member

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    #22
    I honestly wish I hadn't seen this video. I almost puked.:mad:
    So besides eating human flesh these guys drink cow urine and eat its dung too?? Very civilized hmmm.
     
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  3. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #23
    I don't worship either, but it would make more sense to worship animals. At least animals actually exist...
     
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    Refresher Notable Member

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    #24
    Cow urine has medicinal characteristics and is used to cure major diseases and is widely used in Ayurveda-system of traditional medicine.

    Call yourself civilized, eh? :p

    Additional Info:

    Table 1: Medicinal values of Cow urine
    Urea : Product of protein metabolism. Strong antimicrobial agent.
    Uric Acid : Anti microbail activity helps to control cancer.
    Nitrogen : Diuretic, stimulates kidney
    Sulphur : Purifies blood, increases intestinal peristalsis
    Copper : Controls fat deposition
    Iron : Production of RBC in blood
    Sodium : Purifies blood, checks hyperacidity
    Potassium : Appetizer, eliminates muscles fatigue
    Other salts : Antibacterial, prevents comma and ketoacids
    Carbolic Acid : Antibacterial, prevents gas gangrenes
    Ammonia : Integrity of body tissue and blood
    Sugar-Lactose : Heart, thirst, giddiness
    Vitamin A,B.C,D, E : Prevent excessive thirst, infuse vigour, increase potency
    Creatinine : Antibacterial
    Swarna Kshar : Antibacterial, improves immunity (aurum hydroxide) acts as antidote
    Enzyme-urokinase : Dissolve blood clot, improves heart disease, blood circulation
    Colony stimulating factor : Effective for cell division and multiplication
    Erythropoietin stimulating factor : Production of RBCs
    Gonadotropin : Promotes menstrual cycle, sperm production
    Kallikrein : Releases Kallidin which expands peripheral veins and reduces blood pressure.
    Allantoin : Heals wounds and tumors
    Anticancer substances : Prevents multiplication of carcinogenic cells
    Phenols : Bactericidal, antifungal
     
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  5. masterrio

    masterrio Well-Known Member

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    #25
    how about eating a creature when it has some much waste in its stomach :p

    as repeated earlier, you like it or not learn to respect other religions and other people until they are harmless to any one in nature, just for the info cow urine is good for health and to be more specific there have been people who drink their own piss as they find it healthy, you can refer to medicinal procedure if you are il-literate about it

    cow's dung is not eaten, its dried under sun and using as a fuel while cooking, you don't find any religious inclusion in it, the poor who can't afford for gas do this ir-respective of the religion, its non pollutant


    just for the info, hindus don't eat human flesh, the instances you had viewed are of some one who live away from the civilized world
     
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    newbie191 Notable Member

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    #26
    I am a good person. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. I was just shocked to see whatever was happening in that video like any other normal human being.



    Not funny. so the other creature's waste contains medical characteristics too. good for health.?? I think I will just pass on this offer;)


    Ignorance is bliss. I prefer being ignorant than a urine drinker.:rolleyes:

    That's a relief. So it proves it does not have any medicinal characteristics. I knew it.;)
     
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  7. Mentalhead

    Mentalhead Active Member

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    #27
    Now you've got me interested in all of this.
    Like masterrio said. Hindus don't eat human flesh.

    The Aghori or Aghora are a Hindu sect held to have split off from the Kapalika order (which dates from 1000 AD) in the fourteenth century AD. Most other Hindus condemn them as non-Hindu because of their cannibalistic rituals.

    I try to respect other religions until they sound to weird to me, or morally offensive or abusive.
    I can't respect a religion that supports dancing naked in the woods, orgies and such in the name of Goddess, because it seams weird and wrong to me. I'm not doing a hate speech on anyone here, I'm saying what I'm thinking I hope that no one is offended by my opinion.

    I was disgusted when I found out that the religion here had (and still has) pagan rituals (which vary).
    For example there was something like a putting a freshly chopped off chicken's head onto forehead of your child so it would get splattered with blood. This will help the child to become healthier, and protected from evil spirits or such. This is some ancient ritual and I don't think that people still use it here but I won't be surprised.
    When I first head it, I laughed so hard but then I was disgusted. Doesn't sound right to me.
     
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  8. masterrio

    masterrio Well-Known Member

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    #28
    Its not hurting about my feelings, I am not some one who would feel/miserable if some on criticizes my religion, I believe humanity as the only religionn

    how in the world will I know, about each creature, I am a veg. and not a non-veg to make an effort to defend myself :p

    That's totally your choice

    I am not sure if it has med. char r not, I am not that well educated on this topic :p


    and just as agora were brought into the topic, let me share few pts which you might not read any where, agora are not regular humans, they are not attracted to sexual attractions, it is believed agora don't like to live in public, they prefer living in forests and caves, some section of people believe these agoras have some super natural powers as even saving a dead,that's total up to the believers to believe it r not, they worship hindu deities they are a sort of a cannibal sages, where as the normal sages stay away from cooked and flesh.
     
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    newbie191 Notable Member

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    #29
    Thanks for this information this is totally new for me:)

    I think we both also agree on
    say good bye to valentines days and give your loved ones. daily a love filled day:D
    Coming back to agoras have you ever seen anybody doing magic I mean in reality not on TV??:D
     
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  10. Mentalhead

    Mentalhead Active Member

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    #30
    I think that we should open another topic related only to Aghori because everyone seams interested in it, and so am I. :)
    I read this thing online and I don't know if it's true.
    Take a look at this http://www.viceland.com/int/v13n10/htdocs/american.php it's about American who become Aghori. Now I don't know if it's true or not what they say, so I'm asking you.

    Oh I want to ask you one more thing.
    What is Maha Shivratri in India? As far as I know, and I don't know much, you can use marijuana on that day.
    What are the purposes of it?
    I'm just being curious :)
     
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  11. masterrio

    masterrio Well-Known Member

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    #31
    lol!! aghora isn't that familiar topic for most to be discussed about :p

    as far as the maha shivrathri is concerned, its celebrated as the day of the incarnation of Lord Shiva, one of the 3 main gods of hindu. Using marijuna is prohibited according to Indian laws, its just the sages and aghoras have it in general, its some sort of belief as a god's gift to them, they feel it as "amrut" which is considered the drink of gods in hinduism, its a drink which is the most tastiest and would give you eternal life/im-mortality (I am not talking about marijuna but just making a relevance which most of them feel around)

    sivrathri is a very important festival for hindus especially who are worshipers of Lord Shiva, they go on fast the entire day and don't sleep at the night which they call as jagaran, they do siva chantings and prayers, the next day they bathe, offer prayers, have some food then, they go to bed, its the same reason in India you find some institutions offering holiday the next day to sivarathri if they haven't given a holiday for the festival, mostly its a 2 day holiday,
    I gotta confess that every one doesn't follow it, some can't go with empty stomachs so they just offer prayers to almighty and have food and sleep as well

    main siva temples are open from very early in the morning, say as 1am, - 11:55pm, no one is allowed after 11:55pm, as at exact 12 a.k.a 00hrs special prayers are offered to lord shiva in private by the priests where only the temple management staff are allowed to take part, 00hrs is considered as ling udbhav kaal -- which means the exact time when the shiv-linga originated, so its simple to say as its birthday of lord shiva ;) video coverage and photos aren't permitted at this auspicious hour
     
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  12. masterrio

    masterrio Well-Known Member

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    #32
    just to update the news published blog is true as far I have knowledge about, there are also some rumors that these aghora's kill/sacrifice humans in the name of god and eat them as the god's gift and some believe since god is the ultimate he has the right to give birth and the right to kill it, which is why these set are known to have super natural powers of giving life back to a dead soul

    as, far newbie, yep we may b on right track at least on a single topic :p
    I haven't seen any magic, there's a story goes around, one who boasts about his super natural powers will be punished by the almighty in a very severe way, so its tough to see a super natural power, even if it really exists

    I can though say I have come across 1 off the 3 astrologers not those who r craze for money, but these people, it was believed only 3 live in world with similar powers, 2 are in India and 1 got no clue where he lives. The story I have heard about these astrologers is, they are not permitted to ask for money to their clients and they can't use their powers to help themselves, its more of a self less act, if any one wants to reward them, they can drop in their offerings in a tray kept at their prayer room. These people are as a set of mind-readers, they would give your entire past with out asking you a single question, (he gave an example of my past which I came across with perfection to dress code :eek:) so I am not sure if I can believe super natural powers are not to be frank about,
     
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  13. MatrixGodFather

    MatrixGodFather Peon

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    #33
    to me religions are crap all they care about is your monthly donation. If you need them they are never around sports are my religion and women hehe:)
     
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  14. masterrio

    masterrio Well-Known Member

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    #34
    I don't give any monthly donations so may be your religion asks for monthly donations ?

    lol! about ur remaining answer ::p
     
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    #35
    Aghoris don't have anything to do with Hinduism, they are to Hinduism what probably witches are to Christianity, they are believed to practice hardcore black magic and live in graveyards, they are just few hundreds in number and some are believed to consume human remains of dead bodies and even marry and have intercourse with corpses, there are very secretive but there are few documentaries available on these people
     
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    #36
    if you following this thread, than you should why i attacking hindu,
    because someone else attacking me first.
    they think they can do that and walk away with it?

    and it seem you do not have any problem when someone attacking islam, but have a very big problem when being attacked.
    typical.
     
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    #37
    I know this guy for over 30 years and with his last album 17 years ago he came to the point of time. All due to the falling away from faith and foremost falling away from unconditional love which is the key, - NOT Religion.

    I do love those who call them Muslims, but I'm well aware of their system's tactics, for which most of the Muslims aren't.

    first song on top. Listen carefully.

    I know only of one church amongst so many that practices this unconditional love.
     
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    Mentalhead Active Member

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    #38
    @bfebrian
    I see why are you offended, but why don't you find out a reason why he doesn't respect Islam?
    Maybe he has its reasons.
    I don't know much about Islam but I know that Muslim are quite loyal to tradition. I respect that.
    Ten years back here we had a civil war, Muslims with Christians, and it was all started mostly because of the religion. Now I don't hate Muslims because of that, in fact I'm trying to understand them. Anyway there is still Christian/Muslim war here going on, for some reason.

    Now can you tell me more about Islam?
    I'm interested in Jihad. I don't know much about it but it's Holy War as much as I know.
    Is it against all the people that insult Islam or against other religions?
    I hope that I don't sound disrespectful I'm just curious.
     
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  19. masterrio

    masterrio Well-Known Member

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    #39
    the question isn't about defending why you support a religion or oppose it, but you have to respect religions that's the basic principle, if a person is a jack-ass r u the same too ?
    when a person attacks it, defend urself with known facts but not by insulting a particular group, I am not biased against any religion and my replies on religions topics have been similar, I love all religions and I respect all, that's the final verdict, for god's sake don't insult another religion or their methods, each has their own methods, in our very own home, all have different way of looking things,then why not the religions ?

    @mentalhead, plzz for god's sake don't go into Jihad, the real meaning of the term was changed long back by the islam extremists
    yep Islams are loyal in general, not all again you have to note that too
    Jihad is a holywar to save from the evil, that's a simple meaning, it was changed to what not by the extremists, no where in the religion states to attack other religious people or abuse them, its just extremism at its best
     
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    #40
    well, we must learn more about jihad. Real jihad mean survive or fight for your safety, it's not just kill some one (i really don't like that but if "someone attack many people for no reason, i will join on that jihad").

    For me, save other people and our family is a jihad to,,,

    Like your question "why he doesn't respect to islam?". I think he to much watch on tv, see many people die because "jihad"...i can't say that jihad if there is no reason there...we just same human, not perfect at all. Some man crazy out there but they have many folllowers. Not all Islam man accept this way "killing people"...even we want to destroy that bad jihad.

    I have suggestion for all of us, just keep peace...use your brain, don't attack other religion if you are not the perfect man (you are the honest man on this world?). I understand why bfebrian say like that, cause someone attack him first,,,it's simple word but so hurt, i feel that too.

    Just look your our self on a mirror, and see "are we a perfect man?" (to be honest, i am not).
     
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