What is your religious view on sex?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ferrari353, Jan 30, 2010.

  1. alexispetrov

    alexispetrov Peon

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    #61
    .... new, you are constantly quoting this.

    I understand that 2 exes in your 20s is considered abhorrent where you come from, but it is actually considered a small number in the Western/free world.

    And as I've told you before, I've never married, so I've never divorced - it was a common law situation (which in America takes 7 years but here only takes 2) so yes, when we split up the person with more money was responsible for giving a chunk of it to the person with less. That's how separations work.

    I've also made it incredibly clear that while that free press release from the scammer Majid was good for a laugh, the abuse and trafficking of women is not the kind of thing that should be joked about. I'm not a hooker, I've never been a hooker, however I genuinely believe the sex trade is a valuable industry and I have a lot of respect for those involved in it. (Prostitutes, not those attempting to exploit them.)

    The personal attacks are getting boring, especially as you've got nothing new, new.

    When you are trying to turn the fact that I put my partner first into a negative, maybe you should give up?

    Also, when you grow up a little bit you'll realize not every relationship works out, sometimes it takes more than one go to find the right person for you - unless of course you live in a Muslim country where couples don't have to be in love to get married and can be killed for trying to leave. >.<'
     
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  2. masterrio

    masterrio Well-Known Member

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    #62
    lol :p, a person can't travel in 2 ships at a time :p for me my parents come above all and I not against others who may wary with their life decision, its b'coz of my parents I am in the world, there is a saying for hindus (w.r to own languages) Maata Pita aur guru pratyakshya bhagvaan, it means mom, dad and guru (teacher) are the real life gods and visible gods for us. The "guru" came way from past, when there is used to be gurukula, a school of sort where the children live with the guru and his family, now that's a different topic, so coming back into issue :p

    I respect your decision its a good one, our parents are old (at least mine :p), now they need some support from us, so I will have to put them up first, when one can't love their own parents how can he love his partner ?
    so, for me always my parents come first, then partner, there is little religious touch to it, but now that has gone lost in hindu customs and not many follow, so my decision has nothing to do with religion,

    for me all religions are good, I try to take good in all and leave out bad, we have to remember these religions were framed 100's and 1000's of years back, so the customs might have been designed to then life style, now we can't expect to follow them pt. by pt.

    all religions say just 1 thing in common, be happy and make your loved ones happy
     
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  3. alexispetrov

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    #63
    I disagree that one who can't love their parents can't love their partner.

    But no, I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that personally I couldn't do it - I feel madly, passionately in love with my partner.

    I however don't love both of my parents; my mother I love, and I do my best to look after her, although I live far away - my father however is not a good person; so I'm torn on the matter.
     
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  4. new

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    #64

    so may be you would like to rephrase what you said
    "A partner is someone who shares your life until you decide to screw them and throw them away and get a new shinning 'partner' "

    and why try to shun away from you past ? I just quoted what you had said earlier .. :p
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  5. masterrio

    masterrio Well-Known Member

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    #65
    I am sorry for your past, but there's nothing much of a help I could offer to the kind of person he is,

    this is what really differentiates western world to us, here the tolerance level of a married women is much higher than western world, its the same reason many westerners look up on our culture for successful marriages, I am not saying all marriages are successful but at least more than half have,
    our parents are god's gift, if he has mercy on our souls he might give us a good pair or a bad pair, its nothing we could control on in our childhood.

    I love your passion towards your partner, I just wish u good luck around

    as far I am concerned, I have good set of parents, they might have had mis-understandings which is quite common, then fought their differences and lived together, there are my perfect role models of how to adjust to the surroundings, its just a pt which would increase my emphasis on my love towards parents is the top most
     
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    #66
    Also, why try to drag all others with your own dirty behavior ?

    I am pretty sure that there are many in western world who care for their wife and husband and parents as much as it is done in Eastern world, those who don't practice premarital sex and don't keep changing partners like diapers of a baby

    and to be able to screw more people does not mean you are free
    that kind of 'freeness' is also available in a jungle
     
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  7. alexispetrov

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    #67
    new, two posts to me before I'd answered even one? Are you lonely tonight? I'll respond now but then I wont be on again for a time as I'm getting smashed tonight with my partner :)

    1) You devote yourself to your partner in the hope of building a life long relationship, loving and passionate - if it doesn't work out it doesn't work out, but you still put the love and effort in; otherwise it's not a relationship.

    2) If you believe 3 partners over the course of ones life is excessive, and believe that is as often as a baby's nappy must be changed, I'd suggest you do some research.

    3) When I say free I'm talking about personal freedoms and liberties. In the West if you want to have a drink you can have a drink, you wont go to jail for not having a "permit". I can kiss my partner and hold his hand in public.

    I understand that you are a virgin and thus have no appreciation of the intimacy that is sex, so you aren't really able to fully comprehend a lot of the things discussed relating to it.

    If it is dirty behavior to enjoy a great sex life with your partner of 3 years (yes, 3 and a half years - that's a lot longer than you go with one baby's diaper, new,) then I'd dare say that I'm a total whore, and couldn't be happier about that fact.

    Plus, technically it is not premarital sex - a couple is considered married (common law) once they've lived together for 2 years here - legally speaking we're effectively married; we are recognized as such.

    Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to get drunk, watch movies (zomg, sex scenes! I don't think you're allowed to watch those :() and eventually end up with my partner doing me until we pass out.

    Happy Valentine's Day, you whinging little bitch. Enjoy being told what you can and can't do like a child.
     
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    #68
    no need to tell again and again that how you are going to get drunk or get smashed .. how 2-3 is not a big number of partners and how 'technically' it is not premarital we already know how noble of a person you are

    but don't try to make us believe that everyone is like you in west, keep your dirty laundry limited to yourself
     
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  9. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #69
    New, there is nothing wrong with a freedom that is available in jungle. Humans are also animals even if we like to make a bunch of BS about being different different and made by God.
    The problem with humans is that we have made a bunch of laws and social norms that limits our freedom in regard to sex (mostly because of economy and to insure the right of inheritance). The results is most unnatural behaviors. I was in Eritrea in 1980s and as you know they are Muslims and like good Muslims there was no sex between boys and girls. The only problem was that the boys were f*cking each other and the girls were playing with each other. The sad thing was that they were not gay or lesbian and only were forced to these type of sex because of religion and social norms.

    Not everyone in the west is like her and 2-3 is not a big number. I go through 2-3 girls just in one night. I could do more before but my age is catching up with me and 3 girls in one night is kind of the limit for me now. ;)
     
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    #70
    regarding Eritrea, as you would already know, Islam does not forbid sex between boys and girls, it just wants to channelize it through a proper way of marriage. the boys and girls should get married instead of turning to homo stuff. what creates problems is again the social and cultural norms
    Now People try to delay their marriage as much as they can, they 1st want to complete their education, than have a good job, home of their own etc before committing to something like marriage

    whereas these are no such requirements of marriage as per Islam, and marrying early is encouraged, otherwise it is natural tendency of men/women to turn to bad stuff.

    so don't blame Islam, blame us Muslims for not following it properly ;)
     
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  11. mdvasanth86

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    #71
    That's why religion is Crazy!

    Yeah ??? Convinced ??
     
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    #72
    or between disgusting old rapist paedophiles and children.

    new, considering you have previously defended the rape of children by dirty old men it's a bit late for you claim to have the moral high ground on this one.

    Alexis would need to have a lot of consensual sex with grown ups before she became even remotely as immoral of your filthy old rapist paedo-prophet.
     
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    #73
    morality and you ? lol .. don't make jokes

    that is like Hitler talking about love of jews
     
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    #74
    says the guy who defends paedophilia and the rape of children,.... but hey, at least they were married, which is the important thing! :rolleyes: what a filthy religion you follow new.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #75
    Since people just don't follow the occupation of their fathers and women don't stay at home, therefore all you have mentioned such as education, career and possibility of putting your children through good schools is necessary before getting married which proves the way of life which was preached 2000 years ago is irrelevant today.
    People are more knowledgeable about life and sex and what would you suggest if people get married and are not happy with sex? Should they just divorce and get married again and do this process for hundreds of times until they find right sex partner?
    Marriage and confining women to one sex partner was necessary 2000 years ago and even 100 years ago because of the question of inheritance and knowing who was the father. Today science has the answers, a woman can have sex with 100 man in the same day and DNA can determine which man is the father which removes the last practical reason for marriage. ;)
     
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    #76
    where did I defend the rape of children ? can you point me to a link ?

    and Neither do I nor my religion needs any sort certification and letter of recommendation from you
     
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    #77
    Wash your filthy and dirty little mouth with soap and make sure you add Jif to it, before you come here and talk cock about Islam. Lie about Rasulullah....you obvious have no clue about Rasulullah s.a.w.

    To original question of topic "sex in Islam", I would like to point the asker to this page, I find it very informative about topic. I sure you also will like it also.
     
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    #78
    why not. If you don't like you house and you change the place than you do have to do the documentation and stuff again and every-time when you move
    so why not get married again.
    and certainly If you need to repeat the process 100 times than it a highly likely a fault in your own-self rather than a problem of other party

    what you are suggesting is a free-for-all life without any rules and laws
    I understand you point of view but than I would like to ask that why do you follow the rules and laws set by man ?
    why do you stop by the red light and abstain from smoking in public areas ?

    If you want it to be a jungle than let it be a jungle from the beginning to the end
     
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    #79
    Leave em alone buddy. His ancestors were chimpanzees. He doesn't know what he is talking. lol
     
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    #80
    the fact is mohammad married a child and had sex with her. that makes him a paedophile guilty of statutory rape. if you don't like the sound of that id suggest you question your beliefs. If your prophet was in my country now behaving in that perverted and abhorrent way he would be put in prison.
     
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