For All who are brainwashed by the media

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  1. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #21
    Good, so you agree it's right to include that fact in the story. case closed. Or is your argument that even though it's factual, relevant and related to the story you'd just prefer if they didn't mention it?

    I work in private security in London (near Aldgate). I have very much seen "in reality" what Muslims are capable of and willing to do. So you had better try your "boohoo we are victims" act somewhere else.
     
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    #22
    Since you work in security , Therefore I can say you mainly deal with extreme cases . If you want to deal with normal people , You can visit an Arabian country like Dubai , Beirut , Cairo and I'm sure the Image of muslim society should change in your mind :) .
     
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    #23
    rather than concentrating on what Muslims are 'capable' of doing have you ever tried to see what US and its lapdog UK has been actually doing ? how the imperialists looted and plundered dozens of countries ? where is the accountability of that ?
    how many countries haven attacked by US since 1940 and still they are the champion of world peace and there is no bigger humanitarian than them ?
     
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    #24
    Yeah , And how many countries have been conquered by GB and France from 17th to 20th century .
     
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    #26
    If they ever start attacking me and my family id worry about it. At the moment though, my concern is with the people who are a direct threat to me and my family, which at present is islamists and their fascination with blowing people to bits while they are on their way to work.

    My job, and my personal passion, is to stop the people who are a direct threat to me and the people/assets i'm paid to protect. Unfortunately, for you, they happen to be a member of your little club.

    of course, if you don't like being tarred with the same brush and treated with suspicion you should be more vocal in your opposition to those committing atrocities in the name of your religion and less vocal in your criticism of those who simply highlight or criticise it.
     
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    #27

    why should I not be vocal AGAINST those who are committing atrocities against My Brothers and Sisters in Islam ?

    and Since our Bothers, Sisters, Countries, lands are being ATTACKED right now so we do worry about it and consider it a direct threat to our religion

    and what you said that you would only worry about it once they start attacking you is a very self-centered and shameful statement
    so If a girl is being raped before you will you not worry about it and will keep sitting idly .. just because it is not you or your family which is being raped ?
     
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    #28
    You are doing it again, whining and avoiding the subject. You can be opposed to whatever you want, but until you are opposed to people blowing up innocent people on buses in the name of your religion you ARE going to be treated the same as them and treated with suspicion. So stop whining about it.

    See, the difference is, your "brothers and sisters land" is being attacked because they harbour the people intent on killing me and my family. There is a big difference between that and deliberately targeting innocent people on buses by strapping bombs to yourself and blowing yourself up. The difference is equivalent to defending yourself against a psycho, and stabbing someone while they are asleep. One is required self preservation and the other is a gutless murder by a coward.

    Pick a side mate, because when it kicks off I'd hate to see you caught with your pants down, cowering in the corner, wishing you had made better choices while you had the chance.
     
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    #29
    They wont because their afraid of their own kind. Reason why they're far more vocal in the West because the West allow them the same freedom of expression that they have. That same freedom of expression is not allowed in their homeland unless it is agais'nt the enemies and it is well orchestrated or mandatory for them to demonstrate like a robot programmed to do what they are instructed, mindless, can't act on their own will.
     
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    #30

    so you again decide to keep floating on the surface, of-course anyone killing innocent men, women, children is bad, it is defiantly not the teaching of Islam
    BUT what forced someone to go to such extreme ? have you ever pondered over this ?

    there cannot be peace with injustice, how can you expect peace while bombing Afghanistan, Iraq , Pakistan, handing out gifts of ammunition to isreal so it can murder yet another Palestinian ?
    when you take it to the extreme than there are also people in other side who are ready to take it to the exterme!
     
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    #31
    What forced them to attack us on the buses, trains and planes? remember, the coalition invaded Afghanistan on October 7th 2001 and the attack on the US happened a month previous. So shoot, tell us what made them attack us, bearing in mind our invasions could not have been the reason, unless you are going to claim muslims are capable of seeing in to the future.
     
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    #32
    who attacked US: No one knows!

    and it is not just Afghanistan, can't you see isreal ? how it has been treating Arabs ? and what about those fake US puppet leaders who serve the interest of their western masters rather than the interests of their country/people ?
    don't you realize how us has been meddling in internal affair of other countries ? staging coups and murders of those who appose its ideology ?


    why don't you condemn the excesses done by isreal, usa and their allies ? why is it necessary to have a American puppet as ruler in virtually every Muslim Country ?
    may be if there is a real representation of people and their concerns are heard of and listen to than they won't have to resort to terrorism and problems can be solved politically

    If you ask me this reason alone i.e. having fake west/US backed rulers is the biggest contributor to terrorism , when people will have political means than they won't have to resort to terrorism ...
     
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    #33
    So you can't give any specifics then? Besides your predictable whining about Jews.

    C'mon new, you are trying to justify the gutless murder of thousands of people here. Give us some specific reasons instead of your vague bitching about the west and Jews in general.
     
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    #34
    what is vague about it ?

    do you think that West/US have always been very just to Muslims ?

    I realize, you have nothing to say now and just want to get away by terming what I say as whining! :rolleyes:
     
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    #35
    Give us specific examples then, instead of whining "waa waa, we are victims".

    See, you thought you were going to be able to claim we were attacked because we invaded afganistan, but then you had it explained to you that we were attacked a month previous to the invasion, now you are clutching at straws trying to convince us that injustices exist which you can be specific about it and want us to just take your word for it. It's very unconvincing. As hard as it was always going to be for you to justify killing thousands of innocent people on purpose it just got a lot harder.
     
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    #36
    so do you deny what I said ?
    do you deny that Most of the Muslim World is being ruled over by US puppets ?
    are you blind ?I never said that you were attacked ONLY because you invaded Afghanistan
    try reading above ... I had mentioned Afghanistan AND Palestine AND Iraq as among the reasons ..
    why don't you try to clear it up and show that how am I wrong with the reason that I have mentioned ?
    just take an example suppose there was no isreal and all the related conflict than how do see the relation between West and Islam ?

    of-cousre when you whine against Muslims than there is no problem. ..but when I whine about West than that is bad :rolleyes: how intelligent of you

    look here http://iabhopal.wordpress.com/2010/01/22/who-is-breeding-terrorism/ if you want some examples of the noble behavior of holy USA in recent past
     
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    #37
    Also remember this quote :
    " one Man's terrorist , Is other man's freedom Fighter "
     
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    #38
    I can be specific with regards to my criticisms of islam. You can't. Even though i have asked you numerous times to give me specific reasons you continuously fail to do so.

    Yeah a lot of terrorists say that.
     
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    #39
    Yeah , David Brownlow was a terrorist , I guess that's what you wanted to say;) ?
     
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    #40
    I don't know who he is.
     
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