No Love For Saudi Arabia On Valentines Day

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    RIYADH, Saudi Arabia — The Saudi religious police launched Thursday a nationwide crackdown on stores selling items that are red or in any other way allude to the banned celebrations of Valentine's Day, a Saudi official said.

    Members of the feared religious police were inspecting shops for red roses, heart-shaped products or gifts wrapped in red, and ordering storeowners to get rid of them, the official said. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to reporters.

    Red-colored or heart-shaped items are legal at other times of the year, but as Feb. 14 nears they become contraband in Saudi Arabia. The kingdom bans celebration of Western holidays such as Valentine's Day, named after a Christian saint said to have been martyred by the Romans in the 3rd Century.

    Muslim want freedom of religion in a non-muslim nation?...Give me a break!

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/11/saudi-valentines-day-auth_n_458158.html
     
    wwws, Feb 12, 2010 IP
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    Muslims are so tolerant, just don't go to their countries.
     
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    It is not even religious, but more commercial like almost everything comes from West, love has 365 days a year and not a specific day, so are mothers, fathers ... etc

    It is very good that Saudi does not celebrate such occasions, I hope here too people would stop celebrating them, but I do not agree with the banning of these items, would be better if they make people more aware about them, and let them decide.
     
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    Even religion and worshipping is 365 days why do you have special occassions like "eid" than ?

     
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    True, that's why you do not see a "worshiping day" If there was an occasion in Islam that is called worshiping day, I will be strongly against it too, because worshiping is all year long as you mentioned,

    Eid is not a day to celebrate worshiping, in fact, you do less worshiping in Eid than in other days, for example, Muslims are not allowed to fast in the first day of Eid al-Fitr, but they can fast any other day of the year.
     
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    I don't see any problem in that, just as you don't see any problem in Switzerland banning Mosque towers or France banning Veil
    After-all it is their country, if you don't like it than what can we do.
    certainly, not everyone has to follow the standards and laws set by 'highly moral' west
     
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    We all know we don't have a say in other country's matters or we can do anything about it..but the question is about being right or wrong. What do you think?
     
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    This is sad - Valentine's Day is like an extra anniversary for many couples.

    As much as you might say every day should be a "worshipping day" - do you not celebrate anniversaries?

    An extra day of the year to devote to one's partner is a good thing; the world needs more love, more appreciation for spouses and ultimately more romance.
     
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    come on this has become common nuisance in the nations these days, and still we see people celebrating, we can't really stop some one who and what he/she does in public

    @alexis : to show your partner affection, u don't need a special day, you can love them 24/7
     
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    I do, however we can't take every day off work :p

    I prefer the romance of it all, not the commercialism.
     
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    valentine days is stupid, we do not need one special day to express our love, our affection to our couple.
    what? except 14th feb there is no love?
    stupid
     
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    Muslim for you. Lmao!!!
     
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    yes, iam a muslim, thank you.;)
     
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    If you do not make certain days more special than others, then gradually you will lose all romance.

    A nice candlelit dinner, for example, is romantic - but if you do it every day then it is not romantic any more.
     
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    I don't see anything wrong with Valentines Day, true it is commercialized to a huge extent, but it is still great to have a day dedicated to your love ones.
     
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    do u work on weekends too :p you get 8 days to the min. in a month, if you can't give free time for your loved ones on regular days, you don't need a special day for it :p

    come on dude, what does a religion got to do to love your partner and valentines days isn't a christian or jew festival, just a day to show love to your loved ones, (this may apply to those freaks who can't spare time to love their loved ones, so that they may love at least 1 day in a year)

    I am particularly against all "days" such as valentine, father's day, mother's dad and so on.. I don't feel there is a necessity for one to follow them until they show their loved ones good respect and love, they don't want or expect us to give gifts, all they want from us is to love them back
     
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    i want to celebrate valetine day with my wife, anyone want to join me? :D
     
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    then it might turn into some thing other mate ::p
     
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    Imad answer.

    Imad answer.

    WHAT?! Imad is pro-freedom in muslims lands? WOW!

    Indeed. but in the lands of Islam nobody has the ability/permission to decide for himself. Everything is dictated from the central government (a.k.a. dictatorship), and if you don't like it -> leave or be stoned.

    p.s.
    in the end of this post of your talking about the "widespread jewish document"
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1658545&page=5&highlight=goitein#post13405188
    that "appears" in page 63. But you were, again, lying.

    I bought the book to have a read. (I suggest you do that too, hope your first time will be soon).

    To my not so big surprise, in pp. 63 this "mysterious" document is not mentioned. (or anywhere else in the first 85 pages I already read).
    but, I don't want to let you down, there is a "widespread document" mentioned in pp. 63:
    But don't worry Chap 5. - "jews under Arab Islam", is very interesting.
    Its main point is to explain the difference between the Arabs of Syria, Palestine, Spain who treated the jews fairly (after the jews helped to conquer and became close allies), and between the Arabs of northern Arabia, where hatred of jews was a widespread common thing.
     
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    I do not lie Chaos, you are free to believe it or not, and of course, you do not have to believe it, or trust me when I say "I do not lie", but it is a shame, a big shame, when you lie and accuse others of lying!



    The quote you included in your post:

    was from a link I gave to you in this post by me, here is the link:

    http://www.cijr.com/Israzine/Israzine_V2N21_ActualandLegal.htm

    I went to that site again, and quoted the same quote you had in your post, here it is:

    Identical in everything, even in the punctuation marks, only one difference, is that you removed the empty line between the two paragraphs. What a coincidence! You are so good when you type from a book, you did not even make one typo! or an "," instead of ";" it makes me suspicious and want more quotes from you.

    But let's assume it was really a coincidence, the link I gave you has excerpts from S.D. Goitein book "Jews and Arabs: Their contact through the Ages." I believe it is the same book in your hands, from which you quoted that identical paragraph, so I wonder, why this site found it easy to find the:

    while you failed to find it, on p.63 or under chapter 5, or anywhere in the first 85 pages as you claim, do they censor books in the illegal state of Israel?

    or maybe that Jewish site faked it? maybe they are still think they are allies with Muslims and want to help them in propaganda?

    Chapter 5 actually talks about "The Actual and Legal Position of the Jews Under Arab Islam "

    from which here is a quote:


     
    imad, Feb 13, 2010 IP
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