What new Divine Ideas Muhammad gave? I don't see anything new in the quran, just putt

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    If your knowledge about the world is limited to what is being shown in your media, then you will mostly see negative ideas about Islam and Muslims, as you may have noticed, there is terrorism committed by others, but you need to move to get your info and not consider sitting in front TV or reading a certain newspaper is enough, it will only open your mind as a big pan for them to throw whatever they want,

    it is not bad to watch these channels, or media, in the contrary, it is a part of understanding, but when you consider these enough, it will be a problem, because you will lock your mind or knowledge to what they will give you,

    I can post about Christian, Jewish, Hindu and others terrorism, you also can find it easily if you do a little more than sitting in front of TV at news time, go to google or other search engines, look for hindu terrorism, christian terrorism, Jewish terrorism .. etc

    this is one step, that should also be followed by others, then study each case as not all can be considered the same, take for example, Palestinians there are fighting for their freedom from the Israeli illegal occupation since decades, Israel of course, like ALL occupying and colonial powers before it, describe these fighters as terrorists, in the same way American fighters in USA been described as terrorists when they fought the British colonial power, and in the same way, Nelson Mandela been described as terrorist by the apartheid regime of South Africa then, and many other examples,

    to make Palestinians as Al-Qaeda it serves both, the colonial and occupation power, and also the terrorists:

    The occupation power will claim they are fighting terrorism when they are not, but trying to find excuses to keep occupying else lands and resources, and practice state terrorism,

    and the real terrorists like Al-Qaeda will benefit much, because they will claim that they are fighting oppression and occupation, when they are not, but trying to gain power and control by appearing as the defender against the injustice that happens on their people.

    so you need to look again, a neutral look, you will find, that there is terrorism, wherever there is occupation, and injustice, mainly, and not as some try to make it a brand name only for Islam and Muslims, you will find the same happened, when there was injustice in South Africa, when Britain was occupying USA,

    and when Europeans first came to America, they also cried about the "savage" native Americans, despite they are not, they had great civilizations, and communities, but of course, it will not serve the new powers that came to colonize and massacre them if they appeared in a good image, or even half good image, they must look as savage, uncivilized, mindless, bad, evil ... etc which is more accurate to say it describes the Europeans then, and not the native Americans, but of course, they need that so they face no criticism or objection when they massacre them all to get their lands.

    Some think they can repeat this again with Islam and Muslims, but this won't ever happen, it will lead to much troubles, and you will keep reading bad news about Islam and Muslims for a long while, but at the end, Afghanistan will stay a grave yard, for empires as it used to be always, and Palestine will be liberated again, as it been liberated many times before.
     
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    Ohk bro so you are telling that the television i mean News Channels are the misguiding we people for the time being I am accepting it but not even a single channel has forecasted new about Hindu terrorist ot Christian or Jewsish Terrorist so are they partial ????? and if you ans is yes than i think you are wrong friend.

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    As you said that there are other active terrorist group, i know about sikhs i accept it that they also have terrorists group but compare to muslim terrorists group and other terrorists group whose name is more used about other or muslims ??? Every time media is not wrong or partial friend.

    Once again I am telling all muslims are not terrorists but why not muslim leaders are not trying to stop these activities.

    U. S. is giving money and arms to destroy terrorists camps from pakistan but they have not started and top new channels reports says that they are using it against India and other countries. So this is also false reports ?????
     
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    Yes, this is what I am actually saying, some news networks, and media channels, are misleading people, and you made an example of Hindu, by saying: "not even a single channel has forecasted new about Hindu terrorist ot Christian or Jewsish Terrorist so are they partial" I believe you meant "broadcasted" not "forecasted" but anyway, I will use this same example you made of Hindu and Jewish terrorism,

    Have you ever heard about a group called "Tamil Tigers"? in the past 20 years, this group has been responsible for more suicide attacks than any other group in the world, more than Hamas, more than Taliban, or Al-Qaeda, they operates by/in an area where most of the people are Hindu, and they have a Marxist/Leninist ideology, much more an atheist ideology and not Hindu,

    you do not see media talk about them by saying Hindu fundamentalists, or Hindustic terrorism, not even Atheist terrorism, or Marxist terrorism, but always, it is Tamil Tigers terrorism,

    on the other side, take PLO, an organization established by Palestinians, who also had a Marxist/Leninist ideology, or more secular ideology, which operated by/in area generally populated by Muslims, and who had even Christian members,

    you have seen media speak about it as Islamic terrorism, Arabian terrorism, Palestinian terrorism,

    this is a kind of misleading people to make them believe that these people are practicing terrorism, because they are Muslims, and Islam encourages terrorism, and killing, or hate, in a try to blind people from seeing the main issue, which is these people are fighting for political reasons because their country is occupied,

    now Islam agrees with them in one thing, they should fight to liberate their land and remove injustice, but at the same time, Islam disagrees with them in the methods and procedures they follow, Islam strongly against targeting innocents or civilians, Muslims are demanded to condemn such groups, when nobody condemn occupation or do something against it, so West wants Muslims to condemn such groups to find a general acceptance among Muslims for occupation, but Muslims condemn specific actions by them, and not the main issue, which is mainly the liberation of occupied lands,

    same with Taliban, their own people do not agree with all their practices, but they support their struggle to fight the American aggression,

    the other example you mentioned is the Jewish terrorism:

    Shamir, who later became the prime minister of the illegal state of Israel, once said:

    This man working from Paris, in 1946 sent 70 bombs in official British government envelops to all members of the British cabinet then, and to some opposition heads, and also to some military commanders.

    I do not think there are many who knows about this in your country or in USA, and I m sure, it was not called Jewish terrorism then, but "Stern gang" terrorism, despite this gang which he led had Jewish ideologies.


    this gang and other Jewish gangs been responsible for so many terrorists attacks, let me know if you need more examples.

    now what has changed later? they continued the earlier practices which included sending bombs in envelops to governments as been shown, and also bombing hotels, ships, and other civilian targets, and they continued assassinations as when they assassinated Lord Moyne, and others, but now, this terrorism is no longer called terrorism, because it is practiced on a state level, below is an example of attacking civilian planes by Jewish terrorists.

    Most in West know that PLO hijacked planes, and most there think they were the first to introduce such terrorism to Middle East, but very very few in West know that the first plane hijack was committed by the illegal state of Israel, read the following, and let me know, what can this be called else than terrorism? and why it has not been called Jewish terrorism?
    source for the above paragraph


    another source I used in this post which I recommend you to read:

    Those Atheist Terrorists
     
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