What new Divine Ideas Muhammad gave? I don't see anything new in the quran, just putt

And you are welcome

 

?are you sure you haven't been drinking?
You did not answer any of my questions.

I asked, regarding what you call "the message": what is the message?
can you summarize the message of Mohammed (pbuh) for an apostate?
I am particularly interested in the "new stuff" that the message contains and that do not appear in "previous messages".

 

My apologies, reason as to why he could not have answered you because I (wwws) distracted him from doing so, therefore, I am to blame

Go for it, eyemad, answer the man in the "What's new in Islam Today"...That would make a nice morning show on t.v. They wont have anything to talk about because really nothing new, but hey, there's always beheading, stoning, child rape, and women oppression, kidnapping, blaming,denial,lying, wanting to spread Islam to everyone, oh the typical Islam stuff.

iMad, are you related to iPad by any chance?

 

Did I miss hearing what the message of the islam messanger was?
Because I still believe there was nothing new under the Sun after his arrival..... the only new is that men who accepted islam can marry children and have 4 wives and sometimes more (for the rich), but that's nothing to brag about imo, only sex satisfaction.

 

The message was you shouldn't put the priest 'Holy Cross' up your butt but I don't agree with it and if you like it so much, you can just continue with it.

 

and your god (the father) rape and make pregnant a 12 years old girl (the mother) that already legally married with a 90 years old man (Joseph/The Poor Guy), so there born the bastard (the son).

and worst, the father run away after he found out that he have a bastard.

that why jesus crying out loud in the cross when he knew he gonna die.
""My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"

and that is your kind of gods (what you believe).

 

Sorry, I can't waste time on moronic replies (you know which replies I mean) ..... Next time put some brains to work boys, and write something that deserves attention.... lol

 

which one is moron? your version of god(s)?

did your god (the father) rape the poor child or not? did he ask her for permission for that? did he did it by force? disregard that she already married with someone else, the 90 years old poor guy and can't get a hard on so she still a virgin?

and this what they told you in sunday school, your priest tells you how much god loves you?

 

My friend I would like to add something that no religion teaches to hate any one, to kill anyone or to insult anyone's religion. I also respect "Muslim" religion but the questions arises that why not any other religion is involved in this activities of harrasing others and killing others, so why not people are trying to remove this anti social elements who are spoiling this good religion who has never told anyone to do so one of my friend who is muslims always tells me that MUSLMAN is the person who always obey's " God's " what you call is " Allah" principle and lives his life full of honesty. So who are this people who are spoiling your religion?

Please ans it to my question ?

 

Thank you for your question, and indeed if I been asked to describe Islam in just one word, it would be "honesty", honesty with self, honesty with the world, and honesty with the creator.

I m glad that we both agree that there is nothing in Islam that calls for killing others, in the contrary, Islam teachings are to protect life, and this of course includes the lives of those who are not Muslims, Islam is the only religion that has "rights" for those who do not follow it:

you said: "no religion teaches to hate any one, to kill anyone"

later you said: "why not any other religion is involved in this activities of harrasing others and killing others"

here you contradicted yourself, not only you made an inaccurate statement when you said "no other religion" because we know very well, about the crusades, witch burning, Jews persecution, and so many other incidents, done in the name of other religion, and based on clear teachings of these religions - but this is not the main point here, the main point is:

first you say Islam does not teach hate, or killing others, then you say, no other religion is involved in these activities, so you made Islam involved in hate and killing others, even if indirectly.

and I do not blame you for this, there is always a mix between different senses of the word "Muslim" and you came from a place I think, or an area, where the majority are "Christians" whom always try to appear as good, by ousting any person who may bring negative image to them,

take for example Hitler, you often hear Christians say, he is not a Christian, despite he is, and the current pope was admiring him so much as it appears in this old picture for the pope:



in general, whenever a Christian does something bad, they say, he is not Christian, another proof is this thread in which it was enough to make Christian women atheists, just for wearing bikinis

Since ladies who wearing bakinis are not Christian arn't most people atheist?

but you do not see Muslims doing the same, they are very cautious on whom to say a Muslim and whom to say is not a Muslim, so why?

why you see Christians say Hitler is not a Christian despite he is, but you do not see Muslims say Osama bin Laden is not a Muslim despite what he did is against Islam teachings?

to answer this you need to know what makes a person a Muslim, and what makes a person a non-Muslim, you also need to know the different senses of the word Muslim, i.e. when you hear somebody from USA for example, says: "this person is a Muslim" you need to check, what did he mean? does he mean this person belongs to a culture or race, or history that commonly features a geographical area of the world called an Islamic country?

or does he mean a person who live in accordance to Islam teachings?

what if a Muslim committed murder? in Christianity it is easy, they will say, he is not Christian, but why Muslims do not say, this murderer is not a Muslim, in the contrary, they say HE IS A MUSLIM?

hopefully this article will answer these questions, and your question, and will shed more light on this topic:

How to stop Islam?

also this one:

Why to stop Islam?

all the best

 

You keep forgetting and denying IMPORTANT FACTS about muhammad. MUHAMAD HIMSELF WAS A KILLER. Jesus didn't kill anybody.

Muhammad Ordered the killing of Poets..... Muhammad gave his personal example what to do in certain situations and many terrorist believe they follow the orders of Muhammad. Why you IMAD keep denying and ignoring the TRUTH?

 

only murderer? wow, you are much nicer than I expected, this is the least He pbuh been accused of:

YOU are the one who forgot to mention too: pedophile, caravan robber, sexual pervert, mass murderer, assassin, narcissist, obsessed man, manipulator, rapist, highway robber,

and MANY MANY more of these lies, and propaganda, I hear them always from people like you, if you checked the second link I posted, then you would have seen all these and more mentioned there, but this is a proof, that you are not interested in knowing, but more interested in spreading hate, here is the second link again:


Why to stop Islam?

you did not only ignore this link I posted, you also forget and ignore, the so many non-Muslims, who knew the truth about Mohammad pbuh, here are some:

and many more testimonies by non-Muslims, not that we Muslims needed them to believe in the TRUTH you deny, but to show your dishonesty when you pick some and ignore some, and ignore refutations, so put these, in front of the lies and propaganda about mass murdering, pedophile, caravan robber ..etc, which also came from non-Muslims, and ask yourself, why you ignored these I posted, and paid much attention to the others? could it be because they go hand by hand with your hatred?

now go do your home work, you will find refutations on this DP forum, and online for all these lies, it is you who ignore these refutations, and keep repeating the same lies, not me, cos I m fully aware of all the bad you speak about Islam and Muslims, it is not new, as the Arabian proverb says again, dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

 

and what about your god jr, a bastard, that claimed that he is a son's god, but god never claimed him as a son.
marry only 12-14 years old when god knocked her out and made her pregnant, and then left her alone with the baby.
even in his last breath, in the crossed, tortured, all of his joint out of it place, god never came for him, that why he screamed:
"My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"

 

I think you are taking me wrong by saying "first you say Islam does not teach hate, or killing others, then you say, no other religion is involved in these activities, so you made Islam involved in hate and killing others, even if indirectly." My point is that why not any other religion is involved and why not Hindus and Christians or any other religions. In every terrorist attack only muslims terrorists are involved and why not some others ? My question was this friend as said earlier I also know Islam doesn't teach this things than who is the one who teaches and is storming the brains of others.

 

Actually there are Hindus, Christians, Jews and even Sikh terrorists. The reason you mainly hear about Muslim terrorists is that they are the latest boogeyman for western countries.

 

The War on Terror is the most perfect war ever devised.

It provides a ready-made pretext for military action in nearly any country at any time, with the one stipulation that the stronger the country and the more they are considered a U.S. ally, the more covert the action must be.

It provides cover for imperialist wars of aggression for the benefit of the corporate state.

It provides a revenue stream for the war profiteers that is both ongoing and huge.

Aside from the occasional terrorist attack, it is not fought on US soil and the direct damage it inflicts on American people and property is nothing compared to what countries undergo in real wars.

It is never-ending. There’s no way to ever know that all of the terrorists are dead.

It provides a means to terrorize the American people with regular threats of terrorist attack.

At the Nuremberg trials, Nazi founder of the Gestapo, Herman Goering, said
“The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”

Yes, but in our country it works the same way only better. Our government tells us we are “at war” all the time. We are always about to be attacked. That does result in “terror fatigue” after a while, so an actual or at least attempted attack is occasionally necessary to get the adrenaline going again, but that’s easy to arrange. The War On Terror provides a constant supply of people whom we’ve made so angry that they want to attack us.

comment at The Terror-Industrial Complex

 

do some research, even your "love" religion also eager to kill.
and forget about your brother timothy mcveigh, he alone capable to killed 168 people.

but, feel free to blame it all on islam.

 

Even though I am not a friend of the pope's, I have to state in all fairness that in 1945 he was 18 and didn't become a priest till he was 24 in 1951. And in this picture he is a priest, so this is photoshopped.

 

Is it so I have never heard about this friend If you have any link where you have heard about Hindus, Christians, Jews and even Sikh terrorists than please send me that link I have heard about Sikhs I accept it but never heard about Hindus, Christians and Jews.

 

Christians Terrorist? Quite a few
Jews Terrorist? They have a few that I have read.
Islamic Terrorist? Still at it after all this centuries.