Duplicate content penatly

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by iwillguide, Feb 5, 2010.

  1. #1
    hello mates
    i am little confused about this duplicate content.can any SEO answer this.
    "if my site penalize by google for duplicate content and stopped indexing....will my website index again and get ranking normally if i change unique contents?!" or my website will disappear forever even i change content once site is penalized by google!! ---thanks in advance
     
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  2. Revelations-Decoder

    Revelations-Decoder Well-Known Member

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    #2
    Your site is not penalized as such as penalized means you are being "punished" for all intents and purposes.

    However you will not do well using duplicate content, so getting penalized to some extent is and can be a matter of perspective in this regard

    The root source of any content "if it got indexed first" will always be seen by Googlebot as the "source" and "best resource" unless any subsequent rewrite or revision (or something new and altogether better) betters the original so it is deemed more worthy.

    There are many factors that could influence this status.

    If you have duplicate articles that are mere copy and pasted articles with no improvements on the original then why you have vanished from the index or appear very lowly ranked should indicate to you the reasons why if you are really paying attention?!?!!....
     
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  3. iwillguide

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    thanks for information ..my site is not penalized by google .it is still indexing but low ranking .i think due to duplicate(i read somewhere in DP that using duplicate site will rank low) ..so my site will rank normally ? once i update contents or still it rank low even i change content and get more back links ....thats wat i want to know ............ this is my website
     
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  4. Traffic-Bug

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    You are saying it is still indexing but low ranking, that is because of the lack of fresh, unique quality content. Continue adding lot of quality content and your site will begin to rank well. Put a few rewritten articles from PLR on your site.
     
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    yaa u can change all your content and reoptimize your site with good white hat SEO and use unique content bcz content is king is SEO
     
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    Indexing of pages will not vary due to duplicate contents but yes, getting search engine ranking will certainly depend upon the quality of your contents and yes the link placement in it as well.
     
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    Yup, content is the key to attract search engines and obviously search engines likes unique and fresh content.

    Good luck with your content writing.

    Regards,
     
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    Everyone talks about fresh and unique content. But what does unique content means? for publishers their all articles are unique if not copied, can anyone elaborate what unique contents mean exactly?
     
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    Unique means content which is written 100% by yourself or without seeing any article of blog post. OR, content that originally comes from your mind.

    Hope this helps.

    Good luck,
     
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    I write articles taking references from books, other articles relating to that topic, but use the exact terminology which can not be changed. So will my articles fall in the category of UNIQUE articles?
     
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    From an interview by the Google webmasters team that i went through on Youtube it is not true that your pages will be penalized but when it comes to ranking the original content poster will be ranked better than you. If you want to add duplicate content you can add some content at the very top and bottom of your article to show some uniqueness.
     
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    You see, writing articles or content is all about your research and knowledge. If you are using any books or articles; and if you are re-writing/spinning them, then it has nothing to do with UNIQUENESS.

    BUT if you are only gaining your knowledge to write something from your own perspective, then this is what can be called unique writing.

    Hope you get the picture.

    Good luck,
     
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    Uh are you mad Sir? What has that got to do with the conversation?
     
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    I have a competitor in the video game niche, the top in the business, except they have two companies with separate names, EB Games and Gamespot. Yet the 2 websites are exact duplicate word for word except for the site names. EB even says "powered by gamestop".
    So about as much duplicate content as you can possibly get.

    Yet they quite often rank in Google and carry placements #1 and #2 for the same phrase. Exact same pages with exact same text.
    If there is a penalty for duplicate content then it only applies to some it seems.
     
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  15. Canonical

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    There is no such thing as a duplicate content "penalty". Penalties prevent your URL from showing on page one regardless of how low the competition is and how many inbound links you get. People used to refer to them as -30, -60, -90, -350, -950 penalties because once a page was penalized, no matter what you did you could not get your URL to rank better than page 4, 7, 10, 36, 95, respectively... even if it were previously at position #1 and you have thousands of inbound links and NO competition.

    Duplicate content is dealt with a different way. There are likely a handful of ranking factors that are based on the "content" of a page... keyword density, number of times the keyword phrase is bolded/emphasized, etc. Pages that contain duplicate content simply get lower scores on the content-based ranking factors. Google can detect near duplicate content. They know if one page is 47.391% duplicate of another.. or 76.932% duplicate of another. Because of this they likely scale the content-based ranking scores based on the percentage of duplication.

    Because there are 200+ ranking factor at Google and only some small subset are actually based on the main content portion of the page, having duplicate content simply makes it a little harder for your URL to rank well... NOT impossible. You can easily compensate for duplicate content by getting higher scores on other ranking factors that are NOT content-based... like getting more inbound links.

    Duplicate content OFTEN outranks the original version of the content because it gets placed on a much more authoritative site or the webmaster for the duplicate content builds more backlinks. They duplicate version can actually rank in position #1 on page #1 of the SERPs.

    So it's NOT a penalty. There is no such thing as a duplicate content penalty.

    FYI...

    I've seen others suggest that Google uses the date each copy was indexed to determine the original. I doubt VERY seriously that is how they detect duplicates. It would be sooooooooo unfair to sites that don't get crawled as frequently as other sites. Imagine some site that only gets crawled once per month. They would NEVER get credit for any of their original content if other sites which are crawled daily or even weekly were to copy their posts. Google is pretty good about NOT implementing such solutions that are not sound in nature.

    They more likely pick the original by looking to see which one is most linked to. Matt Cutts has even suggested putting links in articles that you syndicate via RSS pointing back to your original article (itself) to aid Google in determining which is the original.
     
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    Not only that RE the date thing Canonocal - as we all know we can make up the dates as we go along, in the likes of WordPress for example. I think it more likely Google & Googlebot use their own crawled time data than any date thing that appears on a site

    LOL I could write an article tomorrow and date it as 1997 on a domain registered today, so as you say "Canonical" the on page date that shows definately can't be the metric involved in any way shape or form.
     
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    If you were to remove the duplicate content and replace it with unique content, then Google where to notice this change (By re-indexing your website) then there is a good chance that it'll improve your SERP ranking, although you are not usually sandboxed for duplicate content, it has been known to cause people problems in the past.
     
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    Yes you should rank better by improving the content ...

    If you are using duplicate content if you can rewrite the content better than the original, even that would be better than duplicate, if you can't write similar from scratch iwillguide
     
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    Yeah you should consider posting some articles and updating your content on the site.
     
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    Is there any way we can understand Google is considering the website as duplicate?
     
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