What new Divine Ideas Muhammad gave? I don't see anything new in the quran, just putt

What new Divine Ideas Muhammad gave to the world? I don't see anything new in the quran that can really make people better.
By better people I mean, good people, honest people, loving people, noble people.
I know he said here and there to give to the poor (imagine he didn't even say something like that) but teaching people on honesty and love he did almost nothing about. Why???
Why muhammad never touched the subject of love? He touched that subject, but in a human way with women and men. But he never tought anything about the Divine Love.
What does that tell us?
Do you think paradise is a place for kafir haters, killers, child molesters, liers ..... ?
I believe in God, but not in God with the description that muhammad gives.
That God that I believe in is a loving God. He loves each and everyone. He wants everyone to live well. He wants everyone to be free. He wants everyone to be honest, loving, noble and wise.

 

It seems Muslims are against you playing with the priest's "Holy Cross", is this the reason you don't like them?
I bet you like to have an orgy with 12 guys like your idol.

 

Mohammad pbuh like all prophets before him, did not give any "new idea" about divine, he was a messenger, and his duty was to deliver a message, and not to invent stories about God, since God is always one and only, he did not make up anything by himself, as when the church made up the "new idea" of Jesus pbuh is a son of God, when he was only a prophet and a human being.

You also are expressing your ignorance of Qur'an here, again as I told you several times, if you wish to speak about something, then know it first, and do not let your hatred speak on behalf of you, instead, let knowledge speak, this is much better if you want to be effective, and as it appears from your posts, you are in panic, or paranoid about how Islam is spreading so fast, around the world,

you can't stop that, but you can try of course, even if you resort to deceive, and lies, it may fool some who decided to lend their minds to you, as it worked before with so many Christians who lend their minds to church and accepted that Jesus is son of God, but in their inside they live the conflict always of how this can be, or why would God need a son? without being really able to answer since the church blocks the way always by saying "you need to have faith", which is an easy reply for them, when they find it hard to give a real answer.

 

@imad, because his priest's showed him love like no others

 

Imad, this is exactly what Truth777 is talking about.
What was the "message"?
Why did we need it?
What content did the "message" contain that humanity didn't know before?


(p.s. Palestinian "education" on Comedy central: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKSyHmaFSKw)

 

Yea!, WTF da mf wuz sayin, yo!

Like what's the the point in messenger, it is clear that "messenger" lead to horrible and doubts as we know of today, and besides, "IF" there was a "god", why would he choose some ding-dong for a messenger and why the desert and why so long ago. If "god" knew that modern times would lead to a better communication among his "creations", "he" would had chosen a later date than many moons ago. So again, that everyone refers to "god" as a "man" is another indication of non-existence of mind-imagery that happened over long ago when natural hallucinogenic drugs. I can't believe no one ever brings that up that there were many drug users back then.

 

The message been sent after all previous messages sent by prophets before Mohammad pbuh been lost, being "not new" does not mean, it hasn't been lost, or changed, or twisted, or .. son of God, or chosen people, or .. ok to steal non-followers .. etc you know these better than me.

why do you need a message?

you do not need a message, nobody does, not now, not even then, a message is sent and delivered, you are free to take it, or leave it.

@wwws, what is the point in sending a message, when it is available already? and has not been lost what problem do you have in that message, what you mentioned, is not about the message itself, but about the person who delivered it, and the way it been delivered,

you are saying in other words, I will accept that same message which I do not know, and be willing to know it, only if it been sent by somebody else than Mohammad pbuh, someone from your country maybe, or your town, or your race?

and you are saying in other words, I will accept that message, if it been sent on internet, naah

you are too stupid wwws if you think so, you take a message or leave it, depending on its contents, which you almost know nothing about it, despite it is so available for you or anybody.

you have doubts? lol

then be sure wwws, only you can eliminate these doubts, if you truly wanted to do so, everything you need is available, you just need to use it, and to stop blaming others for your own failures.

 

What descent human being would want to read garbage anyways, it's beyond me.

 

How did you know it is garbage without reading it? there is only one way..

somebody told you..

and according to your rule above, that somebody who read it, is not decent, because he read garbage..

so a decent person according to your definition, is any person who listen to a non-decent person, about his opinion in what he read ..


its beyond you indeed.

here is something new for you, you have your own mind, and you can use it

 

Avoiding anything that would dilute my precious mind. If I ever get a hold of a koran, when I go camping and I need to do the nature, guess what that book becomes?

 

Thank you for giving a definition of a closed mind, even though it was unintentional,

a free and a confident mind, is not afraid to read, learn, or know about anything it does not know.


your try to spite does not annoy me at all, you are not the only one who judge something, that he knows nothing about, simply because he been told so, again, free minds, whether they are believers or not - do not follow blindly.

 

That is the part where it does not need to be read to know, people had been discussing and criticizing that Garbage for centuries, they've read it for me and I trust their judgment.

 

If people for centuries had been discussing your race and said it is garbage, would you believe them?

For centuries people said, there is God, and for centuries too people said, there is no God, but it seems you picked the ones whom said there is no God.

do I need to say more? did you get the conclusion? I guess not, so I m going to say it directly to you:

kid, you are dishonest.

I will leave you to enjoy your hatred.

 

never read it myself. anybody got a download link

 

If I was muslim, yes would believe them.

 

Another try to spite that does not affect me, ever heard the Arabian proverb:

"The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on"

Islam is not a race by the way, this is one thing those people told you, when it was very easy to know if you just turned your mind on.

 

Off course it doesn't "spite" you, your immune to it as you've heard it all I bet.

 

Thank you for admitting your try to spite, and yeah, of course it does not spite me, but for other reasons than the one you mentioned, which is also yet another try to spite lol

if you truly believe I am immune to such low level of discussion, why do you insist on it? this confirms what I already said earlier, that you do not use your mind,

here is a reminder, wwws, you have a mind, yes, believe it, and you can use it, so put it on use, and try to stop making a fool of yourself.

 

Why do you insist on replying, do you enjoy it or do you feel that I look bad to others? which grants you satisfaction on knowing that I bet.

I thought we were playing a game of chess? Your move sucka.

 

The same can be asked to you, why do you insist on replying? but do not answer, because I already know the answer.

The more you talk, the more you expose yourself, this is how I knew you are dishonest, know nothing about Qur'an, spiting, and more ...

for example, your post above, made me know something new, despite it was not mentioned there directly, but I knew you care too much about how you look to others, or what others may think about you, it is not always bad to care about what others think about you, but it's very bad, when you care too much about others to a degree that makes you lose confident in yourself, and turn off your mind, and let them dictate how you act, what you say, and even what thoughts you may have, the sad part, all this and those people do not even know about you.

something you seriously need to address wwws, you are free to take it, or leave it, but you really need to address it, between you and yourself, when there is nobody watching, think about it, do not feel bad, it can be fixed

ok, I hope I gave you some satisfaction, by giving you that much attention, when both of us and others know very well that you do not deserve any of it, but it was a good chance for me too, to know more about hateful people, and how they get their info or build their opinions,

thank you for this opportunity to know you better