Hi, recently I was searching for good keyword phrase to build a niche site for it and do SEO to rank well! So far I found good keyword phrase: "small peristaltic pumps". Wordtracker gave the result that there are 114 searches done per last 24 hours and there are only 544 competitors. Overture for that phrase gave stats that there were 1294 searches done in July, which per day would be approximately 42 searches. So far everything's very promising! I ranked #1 in Yahoo for "small peristaltic pumps" keyword phrase! Surprisingly there are barely 1 click from Yahoo in 5 days! Does that mean we cannot rely on Wordtracker and Overture at all?
Alise, I've found that you can't rely on Overture data. I've several tersm with no.1 rankings that suppposedly generate 000s of impressions yet get no more than a few hunder clicks per month. My suggestion is to use the information as a guide to choose between terms. Wordtracker shows you a global sample. Its good for showing word order and differentiating between singular and plural word endings.
1) If the number of searches for a phrase is x/month in the past, that doesn't necessarily mean that there will be x searches in the coming month (it does give a suggestion that there will be, though) 2) Maybe your url/description that appears in the SERPs is not attractive to would be visitors 3) Oh yeah, maybe overture/wordtracker are wrong I wouldn't rely on any keyword tool. They are there merely to guide.
actually i was hoping to get the search tendencies out of Overture and Wordtracker, of course, that there will not be the same # of clicks this month, but also the situation when in previous months there are many, and this months there are almost non - is not normal for my type of keyword phrase!
I have had this bad experience with all keyword suggestion tools. I tried all of those tools out there for a keyword which is suppose to have 30000 searches done per month, but when I optimised my website for that, I didnt get nothing. NOT EVEN A SINGLE CLICK IN WHOLE MONTH. And I was on the first page of google for that keyword. So I don't use these keyword tools anymore. I really optimize my website around keywords which i think should get some visitors and I am successfull in that. So do it yourself just think what you would think if u are searching for somthing and ask some other people around you, what would they use to search, and built your keywords around that.
Figures they provide should be taken as guess not reliable figure. It works sometime and sometime it doesn't work.
Maybe the new keyword list AOL has released will be more precise anyway there are couple of sites who organized the data a bit, but you still can't see the number of searches done for a term. here are a couple of sites I've found: aolsearchdatabase.com What do you guys think about it?
In the words of a famous comedian that I cannot remember his name... "Don't get me started on that!" OVT is a JOKE!!! Plain and simple. The only GOOD thing that OVT is used for is talking other people OUT of a domain's worth and value. And that aint good! Seriously, OVT has all kinda of flaws, the least of which is the fact that you can ramp up your own OVT score by simply sitting at Yahoo and searching your own keywords or domains. Other issues like OVT grouping plurals and typos together with the actuals so that you cannot get an accurate reading of the specific keyword(s). In some cases, OVT will actually return a completely DIFFERENT result altogether. It's not as common but does happen. Then there's the OVT EXCUSES... My favorite is from someone bound and determined to talk me out of a domain simple on the fact that "just because OVT returns 52,000 plus, doesn't mean anyone actually GOES to your site". No body respects it. Nobody can depend on it. Try this on for size... Google has a program called Google API that will allow you to write your own code for stat searches and the like. I got ahold of a code that allows you to do the same kinda of search as OVT, only in Google. ALL of Google.... The "standard" thought is that OVT returns just about the same results as google, maybe a bit less. Here's a FACTUAL comparrison on a oddly underestimated domain... Equitey.com OVT shows like 70 returns, for example, of "Home Equitey Loans" while Google API shows 5444. OVER FIVE THOUSAND SEARCHES!!! Why the variance? Because OVT sucks. The GREAT thing about that typo is that while the correct spelling returns over 530,000,000 optimized site returns, the MISPELL returns less than 1000. Which foot race would you rather be in? The 5000 people that DONT see the other 530 million results? Or the 5000 people that have to sift through 530 million sites to find you? Let me make that mroe simple... I'd rather fight off 900 other sites for top billing than 530 Million!!! OVT has NO CLUE about this kinda of goldmine. It can't find or detect them. The very best scenario in domain trafficing is to be the big fish that swallows up all the traffic in a very little pond. Equitey.com has that luxury but you would have never known it by checking OVT. Again, OVT is a joke... for real understand (but at a bit more work) try Google API. Rakky
Wow Rakaky, that was a pretty passionate argument against OVT. I used the good keywords tool for a long time. I knew the results weren't as high as google as far as number of searches but you state some big differences. I'll have to check out the Google API now.
Didn't mean to get on my soapbox. LOL I'm just getting a little tired of the OVT Cultists out there. Rakky!
As far as i understood it, you cant use the google API to find the number of searches for a particular keywrod phrase. Which means other that overture and wordtracker, there arent any resources to use for keyword research. Can you explain this google API research tool you are using?
OVT is owned by Yahoo but also serves other search engines. (until recently msn.com ) I think the OVT tool is useful as a barometer. i.e. Which term is number one in volume when compared to other like terms.