Adwords "Not Enough Data"

Discussion in 'Keywords' started by neckbone, Feb 3, 2010.

  1. #1
    In using Adwords to find keywords, many phrases come up with the search volume "Not Enough Data". Is this a synonym for "too low to target"?
     
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  2. shanu narang

    shanu narang Well-Known Member

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    Hi
    i think adword google is too good tool to saw keyword traffic
     
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  3. neckbone

    neckbone Peon

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    So that's a solid "maybe"? :D
     
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    It depends on what you are doing. If you are targeting a market with a very high value per visitor it might be worth the effort, otherwise probably not.
     
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  5. neckbone

    neckbone Peon

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    Thanks....definately not targeting high value customers just yet. Just getting my feet wet and trying to find some keyword matches i could enjoy writing about but still see enough traffic and cash to keep me motivated. Hours and hours of keywords searches!! :). Thanks again.
     
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  6. zeekstern

    zeekstern Active Member

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    Forget about the keyword tool. Put your phrase in quotes, search it in the normal google search page, then evaluate the first 10 sites that show up in the results.

    Why? Cause it doesn't matter if the tool returns 1 or 1 million. All you need to do to show up on the first page is to beat those sites that are competing for your term.;)
     
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  7. neckbone

    neckbone Peon

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    I'm doing that too....but if Google keyword search shows only 60 searches in the month of December, doesn't it stand to reason that any money made in that niche, or at least using the keywords I'm working, fairly minimal?

    Apologies if that's a stupid question....it's my first day. :)
     
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  8. Lakshmi SEO

    Lakshmi SEO Well-Known Member

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    Please suggest me tool if you know that works good than google keywords search
     
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  9. zeekstern

    zeekstern Active Member

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    It probably isn't a stupid question, just stupid wording.:D I honestly do not understand what the question is. "Using the keywords I'm working fairly mimimal?". I just don't understand the question. Can you please reword it so a dummy like me can understand it?:D

    Good luck!!
     
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  10. neckbone

    neckbone Peon

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    Heh. Okay....i'll try again.

    If the amount of people searching for my keyword is less than 100 per month, and the niche i'm trying to work isn't a big ticket item, even if I'm in the top 10 Google sites for that particular keyword or phrase, am I not still likely spinning my wheels? Assuming of course the ultimate goal of that particular site is to make some cash?
     
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  11. zeekstern

    zeekstern Active Member

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    Aha! Click..The light just came on and someone is home this time.:)

    Think numbers. Think long term. Think about rinse and repeat. Think about building a list instead of making a short term sale. I would give it a shot and watch the traffic. Those keyword tools really don't mean squat.

    So, I would certainly give it a try first. Maybe that 100 is really 1000. You won't know till you try it. In the case of 100, I would try PPC first. That shouldn't cost you much and you can save a ton of time if it turns out that the 100 figure is really accurate. This is a perfect example of why I think it is best to go PPC first and articles second.

    I know you said the ultimate goal was to make money, but I am trying to get you to think of other possibilites.

    Good luck neckbone!!
     
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  12. Revelations-Decoder

    Revelations-Decoder Well-Known Member

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    LOL

    Yeah I think that's about right fella (that it is a low amount I mean)

    But

    As far as I am aware the data at analytics is just Google.com data (I could be wrong - so please anyone any evidence do show it)

    The reason I say this is because I have some terms that would be used on Google.co.uk for UK based searces yet they show as "No Data" and "no searches" for anyone in the US (and likely me - I never really check to see) yet I have the terms on Google Alert so I know fine well there is not Zero searches...
     
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  13. neckbone

    neckbone Peon

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    Excellent....I think I understood most of that. :D Quick question....what do you mean by "building a list"? Repeat viewers to my website?

    Content creation doesn't really intimidate me. Once upon a time I used to write a lot and really enjoyed it (not to brag, but I was picked for honors English courses). I feel pretty confident that when I find a subject (i've got a pretty long list of possibilities as I write them down as I read these forums), research it well and create quality content.

    So....if I understand right, a good route would be to do just that, wade into PPC, and see where that takes me for a few months?

    And yea, making money is A goal, but as i'm researching and doing a little writing along with it, i'm remembering how much fun it can be.

    Truly, thanks for your help. Much appreciated (rep yer way).
     
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  14. zeekstern

    zeekstern Active Member

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    OK. Building a list - Most big shot marketers will always tell you that the money "is in the list". This is about the ONLY thing that I agree with 100%:)
    Basically, you build your list by putting an opt-in form on your site. When people sign up, they are on "your list". Having said that, knowing how to build a list and how to "use" your list is a course on its own. Many things to consider.
    The reason they say the money is in the list is because if done correctly, you can continue to sell products/services to them as long as they stay on your list. So instead of going for that 1 sale, and then they are gone, consider going for the list route. Repeat sales.

    PPC is good, but does take a few bucks to get started. There are many coupons being handed out for Adwords. Some $100, some $50. Many hosting companies offer them when you sign up for hosting. Grab one of these to start with and see what you can do.

    In your case with starting figure being around 100, it won't take much money, or time to test this out. Depending on your knowledge of PPC. If it turns out that the figure is somewhat accurate your cost will probably be low depending on how you set your adgroups up and other factors.

    On the other hand, with PPC, you can compete with the big guys with big competition keywords if you have the cash. That is why I like PPC.

    So yes, give PPC a shot first. But, do your homework and get some good learning before you try it out. Don't just jump in. And, be sure the materials or course is current and up to date. There is a ton of out dated crap out there that is no longer valid. Google changes often and you need to keep up to date.

    Your love for writing and researching will greatly help you succeed. Again, a very basic plan for you COULD be:

    Learn PPC. Use it to find your niches and keywords as well as make a few bucks along the way. Once you get a successful campaign going, then base your site around those niches and keywords and use your writing skills to maintain that site for the long term. Let the natural search take over.

    Remember neckbone. This is just my opinion/suggestion. I found this method to work well for me. Other people will have a difference of opinion and maybe they have a different/better way that works for them. Your job is to try to figure out what is best for you and do it. You certainly can go the article marketing route all the way and you will eventually make money. No doubt about that. Unless you really screw it up.;) The PPC is just so much quicker and saves a lot of time, work, and headaches.

    Good luck!!
     
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  15. neckbone

    neckbone Peon

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    Thanks again for your help.

    The list is what people who give away stuff like a free chapter in their brand new ebook are doing, huh? Makes complete sense. I think my next step is going to be reading some good, basic SEO 101 information (any suggestions?) and Intro to PPC? This evening i'm also going to start writing some basic articles on the niche i've selected. I have looked thru the sites on the first five pages of Google that match the three long tail keywords i've chosen. I've got a year's worth of good hosting. I just downloaded Wordpress.

    I feel like Navin Johnson standing on the side of the dirt road in front of his home to begin his journey in the comedy classic "The Jerk".
     
    neckbone, Feb 11, 2010 IP