SEO optimization and Google PR help!

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by sudarsan, Feb 2, 2010.

  1. #1
    Hello,



    I have a warez website with a good traffic of 5k-7 UV a day and a alexa rank of 240k.

    My Pagerank was 1 and on last google update it dropped to 0. I did some link exchange with 4 or 5 PR3 sites and a few PR2 sites.


    Can someone guide me how to get a high PR like alteast PR3 or PR4 on next google update? ( I already did some LE's and bought some textlinks so i guess i will get atleast PR2 on next update)



    Please post here or PM me a way which helps me to increase my PR in a genuine way.
    P.S: I am a noob in SEO xD
     
    sudarsan, Feb 2, 2010 IP
  2. Pristuno

    Pristuno Peon

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    back linking and article submission are the best and the shortest way which are effective.
     
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  3. magnettechnologies

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    build relevant links toward your site
     
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  4. sudarsan

    sudarsan Peon

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    Article submission. I'm a newbie and i don't know how this works lolz.
    Someone can guide me how to do article submission and where to do it? xD
     
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  5. phdimov

    phdimov Peon

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    PR is nothing more that a green bar. If you are getting good traffic you should not be worried. It is difficult to gain PR for a website with very high outbound link count. You have to read how this whole PR thing works. Again if you have good traffic it does not matter

    If you still want to have good PR article submission is the worst. You need links from other website with PR 3 or more.
     
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  6. asghar.paracha

    asghar.paracha Well-Known Member

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    Dont go for PR green bar just focus on traffic and generate leads if u r doing seo for products. u can find some usefull article website where u can post ur articles and can get traffic for ur website.
     
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  7. alxstatik

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    For article submission look into Unique Article Wizard and if you're looking to get your articles written try out need an article.com The best thing about UAW is that you can get the most leverage out of just one article. This means hundreds or more backlinks from submitting that one article with UAW.
     
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  8. Trapped

    Trapped Well-Known Member

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    PR is a measure of authority, the higher the PR the sites from which you get backlinks are the bigger are the chances that your pagerank increases.
     
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  9. etackett

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    Well, PR doesn't really matter. Its all about backlinks and articles. For article submission, there are websites out there that distribute an article to blogs. For instance... if you have a website about your plastic surgeon practice then you could write an article about a new procedure out there and put links within the writing that lead back to your site. then submit that article to an article distributing website. its simple
     
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    It matters, since the OP is asking HOW TO INCREASE PR...
     
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    Well, PR doesn't really matter. Its all about backlinks and articles. For article submission, there are websites out there that distribute an article to blogs. For instance... if you have a website about your plastic surgeon practice then you could write an article about a new procedure out there and put links within the writing that lead back to your site.
     
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  12. Canonical

    Canonical Well-Known Member

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    Your site's PR dropping from 1 to 0 is insignificant. As long as you traffic did not take a dive, it's fine. You shouldn't care about your site's PR anyway. It has VERY little to do with how your URLs rank for particular keyword phrases. Rankings and traffic are MUCH better metrics for measuring the success of your SEO efforts.

    But if you want to continue to believe in the myth that PR is somehow important then all you need to do is get followed links from URLs on other web sites... just make sure the page is indexed at Google.


     
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    selectsplat Well-Known Member

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    #13
    While I agree that traffic and rankings are a better metric of how well your site is doing, I'll disagree that the importance of PR is a myth. PR is *still* one of the biggest factors in determining your SERP placement. It's*still* how Google quantifies the quality and quantity of your backlinks.

    It may not be the best metric to determine how well your website is doing, and your own pagerank may not mean all that much to webmaster personally, but it's still very important to Google. And increasing your pagerank by increasing the number of quality, relevant backlinks will absolutely increase your SERP position.
     
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    We'll have to agree to disagree... When I see PR0 pages outranking PR5 and PR6 pages in the same space, I know that PR is not such a great measure... I'm not saying it's not used in their ranking algorithm at all...

    But the PR of YOUR URL is keyword phrase agnostic. It doesn't help your URL rank for any particular keyword phrase... It gives your URL a TINY boost for how it ranks for ALL keyword phrases, so it's not going to carry much weight like it did in the past. It would be too overpowered and easily abused by blackhats and spammers (which is exactly why it is less important these days than it was in the past).

    And Google looks at a LOT more than the PR of your page in regards to your inbound links... They are looking at the keyword phrases used as the link text, how relevant the linking page is to the page they are linking too on your site (does the link page have the keyword in ITS title, ITS h1, ITS contents, in the link text of ITS backlinks, etc.), trust of domains linking to you, the PR of the pages linking to you (NOT to be confused with the PR of your page being ranked)... These things (other than the PR of the pages linking to you) don't play into how much PR is passed to your page(which is only 1 ranking factor)... Yet they play into LOTS of other ranking factors that affect your ranking, not just one single factor. The mere fact that it is 1 of only 200+ ranking factors should tell you PR can't have as big affect as many people think it does. The link text itself of incoming links is MUCH more of an important ranking factor than merely the amount of PageRank that is being passed in.

    When they say PR is a measure of the quantity and quality of a URLs links, by quality they are talking about the "strength" of the link... how much PR is being passed in on each link... not just how many inbounds you have. Some things like nofollow and penalties come into play here in the PR calculation for your page where they may reduce or not count at all the amount of PR that would normally be passed in if the page is under penalty or from a site deemed to be low quality overall like certain directories known to be abused by spammers or nofollowed links.

    But who knows for sure... We could all be wrong and they might not even be using it at all! LOL
     
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  15. selectsplat

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    I agree with everything you've said.... except that PR can give a URL a tiny boost. If you go from a PR0 to a PR4, I guarantee you'll see very significant movement in the SERPs of your selected key phrases for that page. And if you go from PR4 to PR7, I guarantee another very significant leap in the SERPS of your selected key phrases for that page. The simple fact is that the higher your pagerank is, the better that page will perform. And in most cases, it's an extreme difference.

    I've had a page that has been on the web for years at pr1 and performing very poorly have a couple of dedicated PR4 links pointed at it, and it went up on SERP position by over 100 positions.

    I'm not saying you'll be tops, or on the first page or anything else, but your page with higher pagerank will absolutely outperform that exact same page with lower pagerank.

    All that being said, I agree it's a horrible measure. It's more important to Google than it should be to webmasters and site owners. All owners should really be worried about is posting quality content and building quality links.

     
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  16. sudarsan

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    Thank you all for your comments and ideas... I really appreciate it.

    Most of you think PR is not something to worry about. In that case, i am going to care less about it. Atm, my site is getting about 5k UV a day and my google traffic is less than 1k. I got vbSEO installed and i don't really know how to optimize it. All the traffic im gettting from google is just because i otimizd my seo. I am just wondering what if i work hard on SEO and hire someone here to do the job and what will be traffic i will get in upcoming months. Again, i'm not so familiar with SEO and someone want to help me with optimizing my SEO from the scratch, please PM me. I may pay you xD
     
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    I prefer link building for generating traffic. The most effective one is Blog commenting. This is difficult but most effective one. This will help you generating good traffic for your site and also the rank. I did lot of commenting work for my clients and well experienced to talk about it. You can mail me or post me any queries you have.
     
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  18. sudarsan

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    Pmed ya.


    I will need your help :)
     
    sudarsan, Feb 3, 2010 IP
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    You need a lót of links to your site to get a PR3. Just look for relevant sites and ask the webmasters whether they want to link to you or not.
     
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  20. Emily Johnson

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    This method is truly very useful.
     
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