Is opening your own sites = violation?

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by ipunkbali, Jan 25, 2010.

  1. thesamemanhal

    thesamemanhal Active Member

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    #21
    where did you get these informations; do you have any google link saying we have not access our websites too often!!
     
    thesamemanhal, Jan 27, 2010 IP
  2. adcents

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    #22
    Adsense should have an option to block your IP like Google Analytics does.
     
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  3. restlesss

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    #23
    no not at all if you opens your own site once in a while no problem but if you open it frequently Google will ban you
     
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  4. thesamemanhal

    thesamemanhal Active Member

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    #24
    is this true ?!! any official google link about this ?!!
     
    thesamemanhal, Jan 27, 2010 IP
  5. gjivan

    gjivan Active Member

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    #25
    I actually dont think, this is against terms of service. I usually do like whenever, i post new article or widget, i just want to see it so i open it once to see if everything is alright
     
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  6. Adpubster

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    #26
    Check out the links in my sig and look specifically about artificial page loads. If you sit there and access your page repeatedly, it COULD fall into that category. Recall that some ads are paid to you on how many times they are viewed, not clicked.
     
    Adpubster, Jan 27, 2010 IP
  7. denniss

    denniss Well-Known Member

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    #27
    No you won't. It doesn't say that ANYWHERE in Google TOS, so congrats on inventing a rule.

    I can view over 500 pages a day alone on my site when I add fresh content/change the design/answer forum topics/etc. According to your logic my Adsense account should've been closed back in 2003.
     
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    #28
    The key term that has been mentioned is MAY. If you consistently reload in a short period of time it COULD be seen as artificial impressions which IS covered in the TOS. You never know with Google so always bet on the safe side.
     
    Adpubster, Jan 27, 2010 IP
  9. denniss

    denniss Well-Known Member

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    #29
    I'm pretty sure that Google can track your actual ACTIVITY apart of the impressions. So if you're sitting and clicking "refresh" every few seconds it will probably catch it as automated access attempts/bot. But if you are genuinely browsing through your pages it can evaluate how long you've been on each page, whether the content on it changed (via MediaPartners Google Bot) and I'm 100% sure that your activity won't get flagged as suspicious.

    After all, there's sites that get updated hundreds of times a day and/or require admin involvement (e.g.: a forum like DP). It's pretty naive to think that Google will ban the site from AdSense just because its admin is taking good care updating it.
     
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  10. Adpubster

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    #30
    And that's why the operative word is MAY. It would depend upon the pattern of reloads: same page over and over again with no time in between reloads, multiple pages spread over a period of time etc. For me, though, it's more of a matter of not inflating my own statistics with my pageviews, plus there is no chance of an accidental click on an add.
     
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  11. ActGMan

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    #31
    i check on my blogs everyday esp when i write posts and need to see if everything is in order. I check on my ads but as long as u dun click on them, u are safe.
     
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    #32
    dont do it for sure as google know what publishers are looking for :)
     
    mikebpo, Jan 27, 2010 IP
  13. denniss

    denniss Well-Known Member

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    #33
    Ya know, then I can say that the world MAY come to an end tomorrow:) And it MAY or MAY not be true;)

    Jokes and personal experience aside though, I don't remember even one webmaster on DP stating that he got banned due to inflated impressions.

    In fact, if I was Google, I'd specifically encourage webmasters to see more AdSense ads on their sites due to the impact inflated impressions have on publishers' payment tiers.... Surely being relegated to tier 3 publisher would actually give more profit to Google and cripple your own revenues.

    But yeah, I think what you're doing is smart because of the aforementioned tiers. Only problem is that you don't know who is advertising on your site, which is an important factor for me (I cut out all low paying advertisers using the competitive filter tool) :)
     
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    #34
    If I notice that ePC is taking a statistically significant drop, I will slowly do a tour of my site's ads. Slowly more because I have to investigate the advertisers (although some of them are pretty obviously MFA) and throw them into my filter. Then after a while (since these guys are often flash-in-the-pan) I'll clear my filter and keep an eye on ePC.
     
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  15. denniss

    denniss Well-Known Member

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    #35
    That's a pretty solid way to go.... Although, once again, you won't know ALL the advertisers.... e.g. I have a website that is a 100% match to "online bank", so theoretically all my ads have to be banking related... However, just by surfing through my pages on a day to day basis, I've found ads for "blood bank", "food bank", "job bank", etc.... Not too many, but maybe 15-25% recurring ones. Obviously I remove them as soon as I see them.

    And I think this day-to-day monitoring clearly helps my CTR more than it hurts it, since I take action as soon as I see a problem, and therefore visitors see more relevant ads and click on them more.

    Just my 2 cents:)
     
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    #36
    Please do not thread hijack...make your request in the reviews section: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/forumdisplay.php?f=72

    Daily monitoring would be very helpful, unfortunately, I don't have the luxury of going through thousands of pages every day checking the ads on them so I have to settle for reviews that are spaced out more in time and perform them when a flag like ePC is triggered.
     
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  17. denniss

    denniss Well-Known Member

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    #37
    Well, I don't check for bad/misplaced/low cost ads specifically per se.... But since I update my sites on a day to day basis --and don't block my ads-- the probability of stumbling upon them increases with every visit and pageview, which brings us back to the original conversation topic:)

    Anyway, it's always nice exchanging information with someone who knows what he's doing. Cheers mate and best of luck!
     
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  18. thesamemanhal

    thesamemanhal Active Member

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    #38
    i think google should understand that we all check our websites regularly therefore it should okay to view your own site as much as you like/need.
    is it really hard for google to disregard owner's impression automatically (if this is an issue for them at all)?
     
    thesamemanhal, Jan 27, 2010 IP
  19. Adpubster

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    #39
    The reason for any concern about inflating impressions is because some ads are placement targeted, ie you are paid based on the number of times they are viewed, not clicked.
     
    Adpubster, Jan 27, 2010 IP
  20. thesamemanhal

    thesamemanhal Active Member

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    #40
    is there any way to find-out whether and AD on my website is actually a placement-targeted one?
     
    thesamemanhal, Jan 27, 2010 IP