What can i do to substantially increase my clickbank earnings?

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by GeorgR., Jan 15, 2010.

  1. #1
    I am with clickbank for some years already, and this past year i tripled my earnings compared to the year before. This is good.

    I also have pretty much success with article marketing and i HARDLY have a day without sales anymore. On good days i am making $200 on CB, but i want more of such days.

    I have three people which write articles for me, i know how to KW research and how to optimize articles.

    The other source is from sites i ranked high with SEO. I have some health niche sites which rank #1 and #2 in Google, so i am getting some traffic on those. But the niches are smaller, not that much searches/day but still good for some sales.

    I want to substantially increase my clickbank earnings and would like to know what i can do....my goal is that i want to make every DAY what i usually make in a week.

    But i dont know where to start. Should i do MORE articles? Should i start sites in niches with more search volume? Should i re-start with adwords? How can i make 7x - 10x more on clickbank than what i am making now?


    Give me your tips please and ideas. Appreciate any help by affiliates which make $200+/$300+ EVERY DAY.
    What's your secret?
    G.
     
    GeorgR., Jan 15, 2010 IP
  2. ebooks21

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    It´s not impossible but trends are quite umpredictable, look for good affiliates and try some SEO
     
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  3. jacky8

    jacky8 Active Member

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    I have some tips for you (I apply them on myself too) but these don't apply to clickbank alone.

    Sell your own digital products
    Sell your digital products with the help of affiliates
    Build your physical goods store (There are many ways to do it)
    Try ebay (its quite profitable)
    Build a website where others work for you (I mean, a web 2.0 site where others create content for you)
    Offer your services (try having just a few high valued clients)

    And apart from all the above ones, do the things you are already doing. Make sure you invest a fixed part of your earnings into SEO, so that you make more and more money...
     
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    J1218 Well-Known Member

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    I know a lot of people say there's a limit to what you can earn on article marketing, but my opinion is that if you're already able to make money with it and you got it down to a science, why not just duplicate it?

    If there's enough markets and keywords out there for all these people to all make money every month, there's no reason why one person can't keep expanding. There's gotta be millions of combinations of keywords to choose from. If you're good at the keyword research and outsource all the articles then it gets a lot easier. So if you have 200 articles for example that are all making you about $200 a day total, why not write 400 articles and make $400 per day, etc.

    PPC is also quite profitable but you need to know what you're doing and there's a lot of risk involved. You almost always lose money at the beginning to test out what's working and what isn't.

    Also like someone else above me mentioned, why not make your own product and have affiliates push it for you? Since you seem to be bringing in a steady income right now, you could probably invest some of that in a person or service to help you throw together a solid ebook on something.

    Those are just my recommendations.
     
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  5. evelinawilliams007

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    If you're making $200 a day then I suppose you can scale that up and hopefully have $400 - $1000 clickbank days.

    You just need to be a little more inventive and come up with a product. The most successful businesses are affiliate driven so yeah.. I guess you know the answer.

    I don't deny you're not making $200 a day, but if I were you making constantly that amount daily I would not come up with such questions.

    Al.
     
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    You realize that the people who respond to this thread wont be making any money with CB but will say stuff like "do more SEO" or "try PPC" or "social media advertising"

    That's the way it goes here at DP :rolleyes:
     
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    internetmarketingiq Well-Known Member

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    The "Real" money in Clickbank goes to the people who create the products, then recruit people to sell the products for them.
     
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    Not true i make money, its a case of knowing which article directory to push each nich. Simple as that.
     
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    Not true, I have affiliates who are making XX.XXX per month from my product alone. I'm sure they're promoting other products as well, so the amount they earn is impressive.
     
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  10. GeorgR.

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    Making a product is not as easy as it sounds, besides i *do* have two products on Clickbank.

    If you are a vendor, the right "connections" are actually more important than the quality of your product. Sadly. You can very well release the 50th "weight loss" e-book which is GREAT with the best sales page ever, but without the right marketing and partners you can still sit there with gravity of 1.0 for months.

    As for my question...it is actually mainly whether there are limits for certain ways of marketing, for example article marketing. I am already paying GOOD money to my writers for articles...the question is whether its as simple as scaling it up...eg. instead of 3 people writing 50 articles i hire 10...etc..etc.. and simply multiply my earnings. For some reason i think there is a natural limit what i can make with article marketing, or at least the way i do it.

    I am making a living of IM...but i want more than "just a living". What separates the real "rich" people who make $300++ish every single day from the ones who make less? That's what i want to know.

    Is it

    * better niches with more demand?
    * better, more competitive sites (for SEO)? Instead of mini niches simply go for bigger niches and rank sites there?
    * simply outsourcing more? (Eg writing)

    You get the idea. Where can we "invest" (work or money) to increase earnings?
     
    GeorgR., Jan 16, 2010 IP
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    I'm in a similar position to you, here, I'm guessing. I get occasional days over $300 but my average is still closer to half of that.

    I strongly suspect that it's a combination of all those things, to differing degrees for different people.

    Outsourcing, in particular, is used by different people in different ways, according their own skill-set. (I'm a writer and not good at technical stuff, so I have to outsource technical/difficult things like putting the opt-in on my sites).

    But I also think that a big and common cause of people earning a lot more than others is that they're better at "product selection" and have understood and mastered the skill of identifying from sales pages and incidental information which products they'll be able to sell well. And this is a subject about which there's a lot of misinformation around and many people's beliefs on this subject are mistaken ones, in my opinion.
     
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    alexa_s always has good sound advice. Very informative.
     
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    #13
    Start learning paid advertising. PPC, Media Buys. This is where people become millionaires. It is not easy, however. It requires constant testing, which results in a lot of failure. However, once you get a campaign just right, you can watch the money flow in on a regular basis, at which point you keep reinvesting and starting up new campaigns.

    I was in the same position as you guys. I was once a very hardcore article marketer, but just like you realized its poor potential as a long-term business model (arguable). I started SEO'ing sites and learned everything I could about PPC, PPV etc. It's a hard, competitive road, but it will pay off as long as you don't quit.
     
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    Hi GeorgR,

    First let me clear you some thing, I am not earning $300 per day, but I am earning some what more or less like you and alexa. Even I am concern about my earning when I see that I am not breaking the usual earning average.

    I am finding that article marketing is not that simple to scale because at the end of the day there will be one person who will do keyword research and product research and schedule other things. And if we handover this responsibility to someone else then he might run with a business.

    When we come to PPC, this is some what scalable and worthy enough to try. But I will not comment on this more because I don't have any authority towards it.

    Personally, I think, we have to come up with very innovative idea, it may be some kind of software, or service or a clickbank product. I have seen many people those who are earning exponentially well has developed a business around one theme.

    People like John Reese, Frank Kern, Anik Singal and Amit Mehta are doing same stuff from long time. These people are not there because they are good than us in marketing, but they are there because they have had build a stable, scalable business which has a life time validity.
     
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    I don't what but something tells me that not many that have responded to this thread have $300 days, with some exceptions (One or two vendors)

    Al.
     
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  16. GeorgR.

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    Its "funny" how at least some people mention "PPC". I did PPC and CB for at least two years. There are some problems: Its needs EXTENSIVE testing and a big budget to begin with until you can tweak a campaign/product and make it actually profitable. There are many factors which IMHO make PPC and Clickbank rather problematic, conversion rates/bids/average payouts.

    The best advice i actually read on the 4idiots site where they say that top affiliates do NOT use keyword bidding but instead media buys targeting DEMOGRAPHICS.

    Adwords has always been hard, and recently has become even harder ESPECIALLY for us affiliates. They flat out "hate" us so to speak. I spent so much time tweaking, reading, keyword research, testing search and content...i really basically gave up on adwords + clickbank.

    Maybe the key is really media buys on sites....assuming that "media buys" means banner space and PPV.

    As for those Gurus like Reese, Callen or whatever. Not targeting one particular guru or vendor, but we all KNOW that there are some names out there which COULD release garbage and they make a killing with it simply because of their name and the marketing methods they use.

    But i think this is another area, i first want to know what makes those "super affiliates" and not examine what makes a "guru" or successful clickbank vendor/product make...lets just stay at the affiliate site for this :)
     
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  17. evelinawilliams007

    evelinawilliams007 Notable Member

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    Partially I agree but their success is not because of their names.

    These guys targeted ordinary people just as we do so I guess it's not their name standing out but their tactics.

    If we're talking about a certain product in the Internet Marketing niche then, definitely some of the big names would sell a lot better than I would. But just for your own curiosity/interest/knowledge you call it, most of these guys with products such as The CB Code, Clickbank Pirate, The Affiliate Code, Commission Blueprint and the list goes on have some very poor conversion rates overall.

    They're lucky to see a sale in 50K visitors since most of the traffic is spam/ or from PTC sites.

    If anyone doesn't agree with me, just let me know and I am open to explain in details.

    Al.
     
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    I agree with you Al. I am nowhere near an average $300 per day but I do believe that I am laying a solid foundation that will pay more in the long term.

    I have my sites in many niches and I do have an article directory kind of site with alexa near 200K. So I'm trying to be on the right path.

    I do have a physical products selling site, slowly increasing my facebook group members & twitter followers for that site.

    I provide SEO services and work for a few clients that own high ranking SEO sites in some niches. So I am in a position to do something big here too :D

    I believe you should not do a few things here and there, just lay a solid foundation on which you can build upon in future. And always invest a fixed part of your income into maintaining/updating your sites.
     
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    Thanks for a very helpful and interesting post, Robert.

    I think this is absolutely right. You can outsource the writing, though even there I suspect it's terribly difficult (unless you get very lucky indeed) to find at reasonable prices work worth re-publishing widely - which is where the real money is in article marketing. And people think that "the writing" is about 90% of article marketing, and it really isn't at all! No matter how the good the articles are, if you screw up on the keyword research and product selection and list-building, they're not going to get you all that far.

    Me also. The fact that it can perhaps become more or less automated, once you've been all the way up the learning-curve, is its potential attraction for me. I know that there are people spending an average $1,500 per day on AdWords who are making an average of $1,800 per day (or more) back from it. And although that's really cashflow-intensive, it's also an extra $10,000 per month profit.
     
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  20. evelinawilliams007

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    I suppose that you've already noticed that some of those guys are in the PPC game for heck of a lot of time.

    That if you have studied the competition a little you'll see the same clickbank ID's featured on Adwords for ever. for some particular niches such as weight loss/green energy.

    yeah once, you get the hang of adwords a campagin can be profitable for many months to come, unless too much competition is created. These guys are open to BID enormous sums per/ keyword just to increase their quality score and drive more traffic. I am not ashamed to say it, I have lost thousands myself and really think that a campaign can be profitable after a lot of testing.

    I have only managed to pull a nice ROI from one campaign on thousands of long tail keywords (won't disclose the niche). The campaign is still running for the past 5 months and bringing in a NET profit of $1400 monthly. Don't ask me how much I have studied and researched'/ tweaked the campaign.

    And for the false believers that Adwords can be easily scaled up, the fact is that every niche is just like switching a job. Changing between markets is in fact a lot tougher than changing jobs. You're in a large pond that contains micro niches, you need to know how to feed those "hungry" customers, however every niche is different and it requires both time and money to have success.

    For everyone that is just starting off, no matter if you're promoting via PPC, SEO, bum marketing, social media, email marketing or whatever your tactics are I'd recommend you stick with only one niche at the time. You can make the same amount of money or even more/ scale up profits from one single niche. Jumping straight into 10 niches is just like wanting to become a software developer in less than 2 days, believe me.

    I have made the same mistakes two years ago when I've started marketing online. In conclusion take one step at the time, or most of the people that are just starting off might end up one year later making no profit/ all frustrated.

    There's enough users that have been marketing for the past 3 years and failed. Some of them come up on DP with the same concerns.

    - "Clickbank scammed us"

    - We haven't made a dime with clickbank and we have been marketing their products for the past three years.

    Marketing online is just like marketing any other psychical product, the same theory applies. You just need to find a large pond, with a lot of hungry buyers and learn how to sell. Just don't forget that "What others do to earn money online" is not always what you should do. There's always space to test new things and become even more inventive.

    Test test test..

    Sorry for making this post a bit longer, hope it'll help many of you here.

    Al.
     
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