Sitelinks & Revenue for a directory

Discussion in 'Directories' started by jhnrang, Jan 12, 2010.

  1. #1
    Well, there was a time when some of us (not all) - who thought sites with Google sitelinks were authority sites and so -- directories with sitelinks were authorities too.!!!!

    But Google WMT always maintained that those sitelinks were generated automatically - and had no relation with authority!!!

    Still my personal research had otherwise to say.

    Then came the time when every - other site/directory which were online for quite some-time started to show sitelinks - and the previous authority sites started to show more authoritative indicators - like a search box within the SERP result ----------

    After studying all these for last 3+ years - I have come to conclusion that -- sites with sitelinks are highly valued by Google but no authority sites by any means!

    Sites with custom search feature are the real authority sites.


    My point is -- as a directory owner fore 3+ years - I have come to conlusion that -- directories with sitelinks earn more than directories otherwise (without sitelinks)- no matter what the PR of the directory is! Of-course directories with sitelinks and high PR (PR4+) put together earn more than directories with PR -4 and no sitelinks.:(
    Whats your say?
     
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  2. skyfire

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    I think if you use CPM ads on your directory sites then chances are there that you'll earn some money. Try some CPM ads. And of course,more the PR better the chance of getting some bucks. Also there needs to be promotion of that directory.
     
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  3. jhnrang

    jhnrang Notable Member

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    Sorry - I forgot to upload the example photo shots in my first post ..:eek:

    Normal sitelinks --

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    Authority sites with sitelinks:--

    [​IMG]
     
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    an0n Prominent Member

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    #4
    This is what I have to say about sitelinks: http://www.v7n.com/forums/1280053-post16.html

    As far as your earnings analogy, it's false. You are speculating based on your own personal results and that does not represent the consensus.
     
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  5. humm

    humm बहादुर बच्चा

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    #5
    That's a personal thought, nothing really exist. :)
     
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    pipes Prominent Member

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    #6
    I have seen no proof of this, one of my directories (although with a PR0) but no serps penalisation showed sitelinks, there was no difference in earnings, no improvement.

    I would even go so far as to say that a high PR and sitelinks would still not influence submissions and earnings these days.

    Although not totally related to the thread, i would imagine that completely different things altogether would influence earnings for not just one, but directories in general, things like increasing PPC costs in a particular business area, or a budget that had previously been unavailable to a company or service to promote themselves.

    Im doubtful that submitters are taking the time to see that sitelinks are in place.

    Isn't one of the things that results in sitelinks eventually showing being that theres extra things added to a site? Say like when a blog gets added or a forum or a gallery, as part of the site.

    Simply i think money and its availability or lack of is what will make a difference to revenue for a directory, stating the obvious i know, but it doesn't matter what is in place if submitters dont have the funds.

    Also if someone has a few grand to pay for submissions and they are searching and yours happens to show up high enough to be used before the submitters budget runs out then that helps.

    Probably being on a directory list that is organised by pr and yours being lucky enough to be higher on that list will result in more revenue than the combination of sitelinks and pr.

    Sites with sitelinks are highly valued by Google im not sure about that because theres warez sites and all sorts of sites out there with sitelinks.
     
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    xc06 Notable Member

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    #7
    I am not sure what excatly site links mean...but all i know is site links are good thing...:)
    I am happy that Dirwizard got sitelinks for a while...
     
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    cdc515 Peon

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    #8
    sitelinks are made not because of authority or ranked higher on google it is because each of the inner pages have a lot of backlinks. so build up your inner pages links and you will have sitelinks in google as well
     
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  9. an0n

    an0n Prominent Member

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    #9
    Not true....
     
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    #10
    In my experience the directory must have site links for a keyword term (not just the domain name / url) to be highly valued by Google. If your site is related to that keyword term then a link in that directory will be extremely valuable to you. Basically a directory that ranks in the SERPs for keyword terms gives your site a boost, a directory that has site links for a keyword term will really help your site.
     
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  11. balkanboy82

    balkanboy82 Well-Known Member

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    #11
    I own some websites I promote on Youtube. Url's are brandable (unique words).

    As videos on Youtube are watermarked with brandname.com and people type that in Google.

    This is why I got sitelinks. I have only few backlinks to these websites - no chance it is because of link popularity.

    When there is enough searches for exact website, Google adds sitelinks to most important pages to help people find what they searh more quickly.

    Sitelinks mean nothing but decent number of searches for exact website.
     
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  12. WallaceYeung

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    #12
    Google sitelinks = revenue? IMO it's not logical.
    you can see right now tons of established web directories got sitelinks.
     
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  13. jhnrang

    jhnrang Notable Member

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    #13
    I would agree with you that sites with sitelinks are not authority.

    But what xc06 said is true - they look se..y:p

    Regarding revenue - it might just be my personal experience that - one of my 3 years + sites got sitelinks recently and revenue too increased. I did nothing extra campaign such as marketing/PPC campaign etc.

    @ cdc515 - I think sitelinks are automatically generated by bots and sites with better URL structure properly understood and crawled by Google tend to get them quite easily. Of-course, the site must be online a quite some-time may be one and half years at least.
     
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    there must be some true here, i have older pr0 directory with sitelinks >>>> pr3 directory without.
     
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    #15
    Don't know what are you talking about. There are millions of directories nowadays, don't how google distinquish tem from link farms
     
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    pipes Prominent Member

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    segzeey Active Member

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    #17
    I agree with you on this, because i am experiencing the same thing with one of my sites and just wondering why it is so.
     
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    #18
    sitelinks =
    (fairly) high traffic site +
    big enough to be categorized into sections OR has backlinks to some inner pages, +
    has a universal navigation template across the site, which is humanly and for robots readable and distinguishable from other links.

    my 2c.:)

    EDIT: but yeah sitelinks look good! ... but not when they appear only in the Google WMT and not in serps :(
     
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    #19
    I believe submitter's willingness to go for a directory than another doesnt depend on sitelinks...As far as sitelinks in derectories are concerned, the ones that have sitelinks are mostly a year and half old. And it doesnt seem to have anything to do with indexed pages either because many directories with sitelinks have less than 1000 pages indexed. Backlinks, number of listings (on Top category) and age seem to be important factors that generate sitelinks. As far as revenue goes, I really dont think that sitelinks influence more than 5% of submitters.
     
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  20. jhnrang

    jhnrang Notable Member

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    #20
    I have 3 other directories having sitelinks on GWT:( I see your directory is showing just 6 sitelinks - whereas my sites are having 8 of them for weeks without showing the results on SERPs.

    It takes a while for them to show on search results. Just hang - on and keep patients.

    Also, backlinks on sub-categories is definitely not very important as the directory showing sitelinks have no backlinks on those categories.:(

    I think its just the navigational aspect that effect the sitelinks. I have also seen sites having 8 sitelinks on SERPs with Alexa ranking of 2 million and over. So traffic is also not a factor.
     
    jhnrang, Jan 13, 2010 IP