Does Google punish for fast link building?

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by Hengster, Jan 12, 2010.

  1. #1
    I have heard that google does not like link building that is too fast as it sees it as unnatural.

    I have noticed some sites I have tried this with do very well for a very short while then crash ... sometimes they come back, sometimes not.

    However my experiments have mainly been with new sites.

    My question is, if you have an older site that is ranking ok and want to push it a little in the SERPS will google be wary if you say submit 50 articles to EZine articles for instance over a few days?

    Does google care? Or should you space out your link building and article submissions over a longer period of time to be safe?
     
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  2. pinkretard

    pinkretard Peon

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    #2
    If the target URL (homepage for example) has got enough links before, then it's OK. But, if you're building links for a particular internal page without incoming links from other domains, no matter that the homepage and the whole site may be popular, it could be penalised. And then after some time, the penalty will disappear and the links will count 100%. It is my own experience.

    On the other hand my another experience is that nothing happened and rankings got better.

    You never know what's going to happen until you try.
     
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  3. Raithe

    Raithe Well-Known Member

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    #3
    You want to make your link growth as "organic" as possible.

    If a site has been plateaued in growth for months and in one week doubles its backlinks, Google will obviously become suspicious and might temporarily sandbox or lower the serps for that domain. Just spread out your link building efforts over a longer period of time, possibly starting with 3 articles per week, then 5 articles, then 8, then 11, then 13, then 10. In a month and a half you could have all 50 ezines up without ANY risk of it looking unnatural, and you could even do it in 3-4 weeks if you wanted to push it a little bit.

    Otherwise the worst that will happen is it will take a few weeks for all the links to be found and to get your rankings back to where they were (and back to improving).
     
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  4. atniz

    atniz Well-Known Member

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    #4
    If you consistently gets 20-30 new backlinks a day, jumping to 50 backlinks a day shouldn't be a problem.

    But, if you are getting 10-20 links a month and suddenly gets 1000 links in a day, it will certainly raise google spam alert.

    Try to keep your link building activity at normal rate and you will probably won't have the hassle to ask for re-consideration from Google after penalties.
     
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  5. Carlx

    Carlx Active Member

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    Yes they will penalize you for excessively fast link building.

    I accidentally created 15,000+ backlinks in 48 hours for a brand new website, google kicked me around a bit... that website is over 6 months old now and although google have given it PR, it still doesnt index the homepage.
     
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  6. Foxly

    Foxly Peon

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    Google will absolutely penalize you for building links too fast, but only if you add links at a rate of say, five times your normal growth rate, and the penalty is only temporary ...about 30 days.
     
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  7. RightMan

    RightMan Notable Member

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    #7
    If one sticks to a normal routine with link building, doing it regularly and consistently, then there is absolutely no need to fear!
    It is only when there is a sudden huge spike in the number, that makes them suspicious... so try and avoid such mistakes.

    Regards,

    RightMan
     
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  8. w3bmaster

    w3bmaster Notable Member

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    Yes especialy new sites but it's not a big pennalty it get's over in 1-2 months ...
     
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    COBSolutions Well-Known Member

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    #9
    Not exactly, it depends, if you are on the first page of SERP's in a high competition keyword (say in 100,000,000) then it hardly matters, the maximum i have added for one such website is 1500 backlinks in a day and it helped it in moving from position no.8 to position no.3 and then slowly kept coming down and in few days it was back in position no.8, but of course it will go up once those backlinks ages
     
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    I am having this very problem. I bought a link directory but the home page is not indexed. Or it was and isn't now. I have changed my meta tags and such, I have increased the backlinks but not overly and I wrote to google and they are supposed to recheck and index the site. I haven't received pagerank yet but you are saying it is possible to pgrk without them indexing the main page? interesting. They update my backlinks and such but no rank so far and no index.
     
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  11. Codythebest

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    Yes, big G will penalize...
     
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    my blog got penalty over 1 month because in 3 weeks my blog backlink get 7.000 :) so be careful if you want quick backlink building dude
     
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    how u guys manage to get that many links in a day .. hows tht possible .. can u guys explain how u did these ...
     
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    If this is true, and google does penalize you for adding too many backlinks, then whey couldn't anyone mass spam their competitors website with links to get them penalized?
     
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    Trevor75 Greenhorn

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    Well if your creating "backlinks" then yes, if they see like 100 or 200 links being created per day they freak out and think your some kind of computer bot spamming machine, LoL I generally stick with building about 25 - 50 links per day, and I've never had a problem. Beileve me it'll add up faster than you think, before you know it you'll have thousands of links. ;-)
     
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  16. Carlx

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    I use a bot to do mine, i just schedule its blasts once daily and gradually scale it up, so after a few weeks i will have amassed thousands of low value backlinks ... add these together and they do have weight.

    But the main object is to do your primary link building with similar niche sites, just a few high PR links from similar niches can do as much good for you as thousands of un-targeted.
     
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    The organic factor is extremely important. If Google all of a sudden sees 1000 backlinks to your site which has no credible content or anything, it is very suspicious... just try and build a couple links a day, 100 backlinks from blog commenting or something. There's a lot you can do to organically gain links and PR, just have to be smart!
     
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    This depends on a plethora of factors. For one, if the links are truly natural in the sense that you have a lot of content on your site that people really find valuable and worth linking to then I highly doubt Google will penalize you. On the other hand, if you're doing extensive "artificial" link building at a fairly fast rate Google may become suspicious depending on how you're doing it. Generally, you'll find the more spammy and artificial the link building the quicker Google will be to penalize the site and the less likely it will be to rank well for various terms.

    Now like anything there are exceptions to the rule. I've achieved over 1,000 halfway decent links overnight to a particular niche website for a pretty popular keyword and it ranked in the top 3. That occurred in less then 24 hours after buying the domain and getting the links. However, over time Google penalized the website and it dropped in the rankings for a few weeks. It did later recover, but it has never ranked as well since despite working continually on link building and content. Keep this in mind when working on your own SEO projects. I believe consistency, quality, and natural organic ranking are the key here.
     
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    If your method is organic then it not problem, remember submitting 50 article in a day means not you are getting all link live it will take time to get approval
     
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    So an incredible piece of link baiting would end up being penalised in the search results do you think if it was from a non-authority site?

    Anthony
     
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