This is for ChaosTrivia: Israel's accomplishments

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    ChaosTrivia:

    If you haven't already seen this article you may like it:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/12/opinion/12brooks.html

    Some lines from the article:

    Productive group of people, huh?
     
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    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    hehe. :) :)
    I was working on a new website so I wasn't around on DP for couple of days. And this is a nice surprise to find when I come back

    Prior to the raise of the Nazis in 33, jews made 1% of Germany's population and won 33% (12) of their Nobel prizes.
    And in overall, the jews are 0.6% of the world's population and they won 22% of the nobel prizes.

    In just 50 years, Israel grew from Austerity into a high tech and technology superpower with several silicone valleys. Pure sciences are not neglected as well: we won 4 nobel prizes just in the recent 5 years. In 2010 we should get another one, this time in physics, for Aharonov of the Aharonov Bohm effect.

    we have the highest ratio of university degrees to its population in the world; we produces more scientific papers per capita than any other nation by a large margin - 109 per 1,000 people - as well as one of the highest per capita rates of patents filed. Israel has ~140 scientists and engineers per 10,000 of population, nearly twice as many as the US, and more than twice as many as Japan. With more than 3,000 high tech companies and startups, Israel has the highest concentration of high-tech companies in the world - apart from the Silicon Valley. There are more Israeli-Based companies listed on NASDAQ than German&French combined !

    Before Israel was established, there was not even a single modern hospital in Palestine nor even a single university. In the years 1996-2007, Israel ranked #22 in the world in overall number of scientific publications with 150.555 peer-reviewed scientific publications. Egypt is in place #40 with 46.166 publications. And Egypt's population is 10 times bigger. Per capita, this means 3500% times more scientific productivity of the average Israeli in comparison with the average Egyptian.
    But Egypt is a poor country. So lets look at filthy rich Kuwait, the world's 4th largest economy: between 1996-2007: only 8,460 publications.
    There is no real education in the Arab/Muslim world, as we all have seen very well on this forum, there is nothing but indoctrination.
    I hold a phD in physics and in the recent year I work as a freelance webdeveloper. MUCH more fun :) Out of Israel's 150.555 above... I contributed about 10, and another 5 in the name of Switzerland where I did my phD..... In Israel, the scientists are cultural heros. In the Arab world, the cultural heros are murderers of 4 year old girls (his bio) and airplane bombers.

    The splendor of places like dubai is based on taking loans, the oil of sister abu-dhabi, built by a modern day slavery system of foreign workers who are terribly abused. The wealth of Israel is due to our main product: our innovative thinking, our knowledge. When the Arabs cry - and cry - and cry - and blame the west for their misery and ignorance, and cry and cry, we initiate, we dream, we build, we invent, and we realize ambitious goals.

    Warren buffet on Israel when in 2006 he bought an Israeli company for 4.6$ bn

    couple of things invented in Israel that I can remember....
    Instant messaging. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirabilis_(company)
    The firewall. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Check_Point
    The "disk-on-key": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dov_Moran
    Voice mail technology. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comverse_Technology
    Pentium 4 and centrino CPU chips. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2003658346_intelisrael09.html
    PillCam - http://www.givenimaging.com/en-us/Pages/GivenWelcomePage.aspx
    Best drug for patients who suffer from lou gerig disease: http://www.tevapharm.com/copaxone/
    ClearLight acne treatment - http://www.answers.com/topic/lumenis
    Babylon single-click translations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon_(program)
    Answers.com - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Answers.com
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cimatron Cimatron (for those of you engineers out there...)
    CPR (computerized patient record management)... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14664102
    Most modern day cellular phone technology was R&D'ed in Motorola Israel. Motorola and Microsoft have their largest R&D centers in Israel. Windows NT & XP were programmed in Israel as well
    and more...
    http://www.ittn.org.il/news.php?cat=22&in=0
    dozens more I can't remember....
     
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    Ah, that explain why muslim hate jews, because they smart. I thought because they killed jesus.
     
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    ah, maybe jews are smart, but i know that someone is stupid

    for muslim, no jews killed jesus, or no man killed jesus or no one killed jesus.
    only christian and jews believes that jews killed jesus.
    according to your logic, christian SHOULD hate jews.
     
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    How about the robotic snake? The snake kind of gives me the creeps, but I couldn't find a picture of the dog droid...:)

    Robotic Snake Video

     
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    Glad to see you liked the article, Chaos.
     
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    That explain why Palestinian are a buncha pussies.
     
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    The Jews are the only people in the world who have found hostility in every country in which they settled in any numbers. The big question is - why ?
    :)
     
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    Right, Israel is the best, Jews are the best...So we don't need to give them $Billions every year and preferential ally treatment anymore right?...Jews can take care of themselves on their own...Right?

    Israel develops weapon technology like CRAZY, with funds meant for their hungry poor who also dislike what Israel does.

    Nobel Prizes are given to scientific mastery. Judaism is the only religion that understands science and religion are compatible. The rest of the world is still in a "magic" trance and believe that Jesus was an actual man that walked on Earth at one single time as opposed to an allegory for real people who act selflessly.

    FACT: The only true Jew is the one who denies that Israel is Zion.
    Disagree with this shows complete ignorance of your own religious belief, and proof that Judaism has transformed into a secular power control system that uses spirituality to protect and hide itself, kinda like a cult.

    Women in the IDF is appalling, and they don't serve on the front in combat...and I have a ton of lady friends who have served.

    Threads like this are why the Jewish people meet animosity...
    If you're a Jew, you'll never understand how people see you, but let a Catholic living in a Jewish stronghold in America help you out:

    -Jews know very little about other religions, yet many religions know the Old Testament very well.
    -There is ALWAYS a holiday uproar in public places/businesses that show Christian (GOT FORBID MUSLIM!) symbolism out in the open, but menorahs are always ok! :D
    -The religion let its own members who were born as slaves in Egypt die during the 40 years in the desert so not to taint the state of Israel or future Jewish people.
    -Jews have a fear that what enters them will defile them (kosher). What you allow to leave your body makes you rotten, not what goes in. (what about stds? your outward desire to engage in lust gave u the std, not an infected body).
    -The state of Israel is a spearhead for secular propaganda that gives treats to those that support it and are vicious internationally to those that don't.
    -Jews supporting Israel in America, with the use of American tax money, are traitors...Unless they advocate the same support to the enemies of Israel.
    -Judaism is the only religion that must be apologized for, whose atrocities must never be brought up, but whose people must always be taken care of and looked after for they are our closest connection to God
    -On that note, completely forgetting the kindness of those belonging to different faiths that have protected the Jews.
    -Jews are the ones who think they have claim to the land of Israel to the point of militarizing the home of God
    -Zion is a state of mind, not a place; a literal Zion is the same as the Babylon of Revelation
    -Jews do not understand the mystic origin of their own religion
    -Misunderstanding what a Jew is, current Europeans who are of Jewish descent have the egoistic ideal that they are a Chosen People and some sort of global aristocracy, forgetting what happens historically to aristocracy when they overstep their bounds...
    -Judaism has the same initiation rituals as many secret societies.
    -Ancient borders mean something to Israelites, who see themselves as entitled, but if other religions did the same...The Vatican would control Italy and most of Europe...
    -EVERY minority everywhere has been met with hostility; thinking it's only the Jews once again makes them the feeble sheep that we must feel sorry for.....But as stated previously has won the most Nobel Prizes so I really don't know WHY anyone protects these people...They seem fine doing it on their own.

    ...So, again, when the next round of Jewish persecution comes...With all the bridges you have burned...All the different people you have spat on...Who will you count on to protect you?
     
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    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    Tradition:

    Boy do you have a lot of pre established biases that came flying out.

    It turns out both the article I cited and the title of the thread are about

    Accomplishment.

    There is nothing about best/there is nothing about superiority.

    the nobel prizes, the science...etc. It turns out that stuff is used by the world for advancement.
     
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    Traditione touched a good point , anti-semitism found base from the behaviour of the jews to the non-jews , if look at Israel you'll see the same thing , if once the israel loses strenght I am sure that we'll see another Hitler and another jewish genocide.This shows us some people refuses to learn from their mistakes.
    Anti-Semitism exists before Hitler and Nazism , these superior friends should ask themselves why ? and what went wrong ?
    It is hard to discuss these topics with them since they have build a taboo , if you say something about jews , they blame you to be an anti-semite , they tell you about genocide they have faced.
     
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    Interesting, how can they build a taboo on the topics you want to speak about? I mean, you are in America if I m not wrong, and there is freedom of speech, how can you say a taboo?
     
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    freedom of speech in america, no more.

    hate crime
    please, stop say something bad against jews, or you will end up like david irving.

    so beware.... beeeee very wareeeeee.... :cool:
     
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    Do you think zangief must be at the Michael Jackson ranch because of his location field? If you bothered to read any of his posts, he's a muslim in Turkey.

    It's hate crime, Not speech. It's already against the law to commit acts of violence. What it amounts to, is if you kill someone simply because of their sexual orientation for example, the punishment would be more severe.
     
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    So. Zangief.
    Tell us.
    What were the mistakes the jews did that brought the holocaust and antisemitism upon them?
     
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    The Jews! The Jews! It was the Jews that caused us to slaughter them!

    Personal opinion or wishful thinking? Ahmadinijad will be wearing a mushroom cloud for a hat before that ever happens.

    So the Jews brought the holocaust on themselves by some mistake they made? You are aware to make that allegation, you have to stop denying the holocaust... right?

    The Jews haven't killed anywhere near as many people in foreign lands as the US has. We also bully other nations into submission with our economic and military might. Like Israel/THE JEWS, we are also very proud of our acheivments on this planet on all fronts (Military, Science, Health, Invention, Finance, etc, etc, etc). Does that mean we are due for an American genocide?

    Taboo? Not at all. There are rednecks with an IQ around 70 in the US who make the points you have carefully laid out on a daily basis. It occupies most of the waking hours they don't spend in their trailer home banging their toothless sister or mother. Now and again, they have a public march in some city where they say the same things with bull horns. Its pure comedy. I suspect some people feel pity for these retarded idiots, but I personally think its a shame throwing rotten vegetables is no longer socially acceptable. It would heighten my enjoyment of witnessing such events by a factor of 10.

    I think it is awesome. Not bad looking girls either.

    I didn't see you voicing such hatred on the threads touting the beauties of Pakistan. I'm not Pakistani, but I certainly didn't feel threatened by Pakistan's beauty.

    You are a bible reader? Did you read about how the earth was created in 7 days? Don't you find it odd to be quoting a fictional work as an example of supposed real world prejudice?

    Must..... Fight... the .... urge.... must...... fight.. ..... ahh, I give up. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. What goes in your body doesn't defile you? How many times have you snacked on a dog turd, by way of asking.


    So Britains who fight in the war along side the US are traitors unless they advocate support for the Taliban? :confused: A man who defends his family is a traitor unless he also helps those who would hurt them? Did you drop acid before posting?



    America. Britain. France. Germany. Austria. Australia. Canada. .... .... ....

    Jesus dude... hate much?


    Osama Bin Laden may be popular in some cultures, but you won't see him dancing around the streets of New York without being arrested. Salman Rushdie may have exercised his right of free speech, but you won't see him walking the streets of Saudi Arabia, or any other Muslim state. Regardless of whether you think David Irving is a complete racist(which he is), or right on target, the fact is, the man is a complete imbicile for making an appearance in Austria. I suspect he is representative of those who share his views.
     
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    Well done for the jews.

    I would like to ask them if that was due to their race or was it due to their Holy Book which Israel base itself on?
     
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    should we start worshiping isreal? since it seems it is so great and godly!
    and why not ...after all they are the real chosen ones. .. every one else is child of a lesser God

    OP forget to mention about other accomplishments of isreal and zionist jews which include but are not limited to
    :land grabbing, forceful occupation, cold blooded murder of children, running concentration camps (Gaza), war crimes, starving others from food and water etc etc

    who controls and runs US?
     
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    Thank you, but nobody said that.

    Right. And no, you don't.
    American aid for Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and even the Palestinians who were dancing after 9/11 is less than 2.5$ bn a year, but not much less.
    The budget of Israel is 100$ bn a year. We will survive also without the 2.5$bn american aid money.
    Actually, we could sell weapons to China for MUCH more. The Americans rejected several such deals in the recent years.

    Israel develops all kinds of technology like crazy. Unfortunately, and thanks to your terrorist friends, we need superb weapon technology. We use our own funds for it and also export it. Israel is the world 4th largest weapons exporter. A tiny country among giants.

    LOLLLLLL. Such ignorance.
    Judaism is the only religion that understands science and religion are INCOMPATIBLE. The rest believe that science are compatible with religion. Only on this forum we had like a 100 threads about "the scientific truths as revealed in the quran".
    The strength of the jewish approach is that judaism is a religion of Allegory. This philosophy is probably too advanced for you so I will stop right here.

    ....
    FACT: The only true muslim is the one who puts a detonator to his 16 year old and sends him to explode on western forces.

    I have never heard somebody blame another person for "ignorance of his own religious belief". I don't think that I have ever heard something that stupid in my whole life.

    They are sexy, and they do.

    This thread is about the accomplishments of Israel. Which are unmatched.

    Sure. Let's see.

    My knowledge on Islam and Catholisism doubles if not triples yours. I am a tour guide in Israel and I also give tours to groups of Christians who usually tell me just that.

    Don't know about that. If couple of idiots roar this doesn't mean you have to roar as well.

    LOL. "The religion let its own members". This is really to stupid to comment on. But to complement what I said above regarding religion & science in Judaism, in judaism, the stories of the bible are not regarded as "history": but rather as "allegory". Jews do not dig below old churches (synagogues) to find human remains of "saints", to "prove" that the story about them is real. Its a different approach to what you can not understand. Consider it to be "purely spiritual" and not "touching earth" at all. Living in a parallel universe which does not interact with the other universe, in which we live.

    Muslims also have a limited menu. The kosher issue is something not something for your understand of judaism or misunderstanding, to be precise.

    Like any other political entity in the world.

    And non-jews who support Israel and not its enemies, are also traitors? I believe there are couple of millions of them, no?
    Please explain how a small group of people can "support Israel with the use of American tax money".
    Such a non-american and non-democratic thing to say....

    I believe you mean ... the murder of jesus? or the General relativity of Einstein perhaps? what attrocities?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Righteous_among_the_Nations

    They don't think. They are certain. And not to the point of militarizing the home of God but to the point of protecting themselves - excatly from people like you.

    "Zion (Hebrew: ציון‎; Tiberian vocalization: Ṣiyyôn; transliterated Zion or Sion) is a term that most often designates the Land of Israel and its capital, Jerusalem. The word is found in texts dating back almost three millennia." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zion
    In your next trip to Israel, join my tours, I will show you some of these texts.

    LOL. too stupid to tackle.

    No. They have such ideal only in your imagination.

    No, they don't. only in "The protocols of the Elders of zion" one is mentioned. I assume that this is your book before bedtime.

    Your grave ignorance of the differences between nationality, religion etc' and simple history, again.

    nobody is "thinking it's only the Jews once again". The holocaust was not "hostility", it was a genocide, where a third of the world jewry was murdered in 3 years.

    The next round will not come. This is why the glorious state of Israel exists. To protect the jews from people like you.
     
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