Disprove any, and you can disprove all. . .but you can't, huh???

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  1. wwws

    wwws Notable Member

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    #21
    How could you say it has not, when for many centuries it has been proven to be false,negative, but lies continues to this days.

    It is the bribery,fear, intimidation, ignorance, lies, profiting that kept it alive.

    In the beginning there was dust but no god, in the end, there will be dust and still no god.

    Latest news:
    Solomon an island in the South Pacific is a very religious small nation...Tsunami time, god was not there as there is no god.

    Tsunami in 2005 which killed hundreds of thousands of all religious beings, from babies to adults had perish,..no god.

    The 911 which killed a few thousands and most are religious and you better believe that those people prayed to god to save them, god did not answer as there is no god.

    All wars where religious people participated, died in millions through the centuries, many are religious and died brutally...no god.

    All race had been a slave but some were more slaves than the other and are religious, no god.

    The continent of Africa whether they are Christians or Muslim are suffering in great numbers from Famine to brutal attack or poverty,no god.

    The world in general are suffering in great numbers and are religious, no god.

    Religious people are certainly not immune to diseases, no god as god does not know how to cure, as there is no god.

    A plane landed in the Hudson river perfectly last year, all lived, religious freaks say "it's a miracle". It's called "chances" and are expert in piloting the plane, no god was involved as many other plane crashes in history and many other type of catastrophe in history that people perish and god did not save them, so no god.

    Has been proven an infinite of times that there is no god, only a mental person will still think that god exist.

    God backwards is Dog, and yes Dog do exist, but no god.

    Live life as if it is the only thing you got, be nice to all living things on Earth, because when you die or they die, that is the end.

    Life is indeed beautiful, wake up in the morning, smile. Feel the sun heating up your body in the afternoon, smile. At night when it is clear and the stars are out, look up and watch the sky animate in bright lights, smile.

    See some one, they are like you, smile. A dog or a cat or any animals watch them how they move.The mechanics of all living things like an Ant, when they bite, oh how they burn when they bite you, but they are so small, a fraction of you, I look at the little guy and not much damage is done to me, I gently brushes of and watch it land and crawl away back to whatever business it does.

    Life is so beautiful to watch and hear and smell, to touch and feel, that it amazes me that one forgets them that when they think they are lost, a con man comes in and says that there is this super being that will show them the way to a better life but with a catch. A catch that will forever slave them of their will to see life how it is, the life that is in front of them, the life they already know, but the con man robs them of the sights and smell and touch and lead them to a transparent lies, they call god.
     
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    #22
    I am grown up, thanks.

    I also have a sense of humor....point was if I believed everything anyone said, I would get into a pickup truck with a pervert who is promising candy. Same thing as taking every word in the Bible seriously in my opinion....follow and you ALWAYS will be rewarded....

    and I don't "try" to give out negative rep for disagreements, who's the grownup?
     
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  3. Laceygirl

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    #23
    You are talking about many churches which are run by people. I woundn't trust them as they often use bribery, fear, intimidation, ignorance, lies, and profit in order to control their monopoly.
    God is not responsible for people. Free will is allowed.

    You were not there either. I guess you don't exist either........
    What you just said does not disprove the existance of God in not even one try. You basically just said people did something.....no god.
    When people die it doesn't disprove gods' existance in any possible way. People die, its written in the bible that people are a victim of circumtance due to the way the world is. You think that the Christians who got toasted in 9/11 didn't get their gift of heaven or something?
    Peoples' actions to not disprove Gods existance.....yet again.
    In some area's you are killed for being Christian. It says in the bible that "life ain't fair" (in its words). This doesn't disprove Gods existance.
    So you are saying that God doesn't want to save them so he does not exist? I lost you.
    God didn't say that if you are Christian you will not suffer. Does not disprove God.
    Being Christian does not give you special abilities in the world. Its a spiritual ability. You are an idiot.
    So God does not exist because someone said that something happened because of God?
    So because those idiots are wrong makes God not exist.
    And you did a good job proving that. You said that because people die there is no God. Of course God mentioned that that people would die. God wants you to die. The world is just a small "mission" as you'd call it.
    WOW, log that into the most intellectual quotes of our time. You solved the case.
    PAL is LAP, so that means that you cannot have a Pal because they don't exist? (yes, I think I understand this concept now.......)

    A flashy paragraph doesn't stand for argument.

    Face it, you don't know what you are talking about and are in over your head. You think because bad stuff happens God doesn't exist. If you truly believe that God doesn't exist then relax and enjoy the crappy world you explained. Don't be upset.

    sense of humor? Is that before you go to your KKK meeting or after?
    Your humor isn't to bring joy, its to insult. Maybe you should practice more on that.

    I didn't rep you for your disagreement. I repped you for the manner of respect that you threw out for other's beliefs.
     
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  4. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #24
    You don't need couple of line to explain holy spirit, you only need one. Holy spirit is pure simple BS. ;):D
     
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    #25
    lol. Mental Man (religious people). The only way to fix the cure is a bullet in the head, as you say you will have a place in heaven? But that's the job of a Mental Man, he is the killing machine in the name of his god.

    Moses was a murderer
    Jesus was gay
    Mohammad the child molester

    And since David Koresh is regarded as a Prophet by some of his followers he is all of the above, I mean when does all of this nonsense stop.

    It should be illegal to promote religion, it tarnishes the quality life on this planet with all of this wackos running around preaching non-sense..
     
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  6. Laceygirl

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    #26
    And for the 3rd time in a row you've proved that you are just a kid. Take a look back at all of your posts. Its a joke to take anything you say seriously. Your just some flamer.

    So let me get this straight. Before you believe that God does not exist because of all of the bad crap where people died. You figure that if there was a God then he would've stopped it right?

    And now you are saying here that you do believe in God and you think he's the one who is making the bad stuff happen(killing machine).

    For calling religious people mental in the head I think I've pretty much showed you how mixed your mind is running right now. You are saying one thing then saying the opposite(or is it like science? Its ok because it changes).

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    And now you back up your new found knowledge by not only believing in God yourself but you also are acusing Moses and Jesus of being sinful?
    How could they be sinful if they never existed.

    See.....you believe in God. Your like me, but your just upset about it.

    I can't say I agree that it should be illegal, but I do agree. Its the churches and the two-faced people. They can't be trusted, in the Christian community, anyway.
    But then again, many things are guilty of tarnishing the quality of life in the world. The police, teachers, lawyers, the Gov't, the media, music, TV, freedom of speech act, etc.

    I don't like the world either, but me and you are stuck for awhile. Don't worry in 60yrs+ or so we can both enjoy being dead.
     
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    cientificoloco Well-Known Member

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    #27
    I didn't know people like this kid existed here in Canada, I thought they were being safely kept south of the border
     
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    #28
    Wow, I'm hurt. I'm not welcome in Canada now. I just can't fit in, damn.

    jeez, that was weak.
     
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    #29
    You are assuming that I am joking but my description is the truth, holy spirit is pure simple BS. It was made up by a group of superstitious people couple of 1000 years ago and it is still believed by other simple minded people in our time. ;)
     
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    #30
    I can find some logical reason on why people think of spirits and ghost, I just cannot phantom the idea of the scriptures written by man years ago and are actually being followed and use in today's modern society. What's scary is that most of the followers are looney's and hippocrates and do bad things to other people. Without it or when religion are controlled or hidden from the plains view, the world would be a better place to live, peace will happen for once.
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #31
    So you are saying you believe then?:D
     
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    #32
    My opinion about this BS is posted here but I think your husband, debunk is a true believer in this type of BS. ;)
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #33
    You believe too little Julian. You're just mad at God for whatever reason. If you need me to continue praying for you or want some spiritual guidance, we're all still here for you. Good luck kiddo and Happy New Year!
     
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    #34
    You remind me of some girl on Geraldo who is afraid of oranges. She doesn't know why or how, but she just is. You offer nothing that shows you any knowledge on what you are arguing against. You just say "yo, its stupid.
    And with the "I'm simple minded", you might as well forget about that. I run my own high mantenance retail business and also run some pretty heavy popular information sites. Forget about simple. That's been out the window after I turned 18.

    Let it go. The Holy Spirit is not a secret invisable ghost flying around and its not a spirit who is in a transparent universe with the world. When the bible said Holy Spirit they didn't mean physically a thing that's around. You don't know what it is. By you saying this its like someone pointing at some spanish dude in Canada and saying "Hey, that guy is an alien!".
    Yes, he may be an alien but he's not from outerspace. He's from a diff. country.
    You got the scripture all mixed up. I wouldn't believe it either if I thought that there was floating ghosts...........

    Most of the follows are loony and hypocrates. I agree. I can't stand them. They run around saying they are good people and judge everyone else but when it comes down to them, they just take like the rest of the world. THe churches take advantage of their donations and make a fortune, then when they have too much they get a small army to fly across the world and shake hands with a starving community of 12 people. Of course at that expense they could've helped 10,000 people but its not as fun as flying 6000miles, is it?

    Here's the worse. One Christian thinks its bad to play video games, another mennonite christian thinks its good with God to have 10+ kids, another thinks playing cards are evil, etc. Its annoying.

    I don't follow them, that's for sure. But still the people don't make the bible fake because they are stupid. The bible said they would be stupid.

    Example: Mike Tyson was convicted of rape. Does that mean its the countries fault. US is a rapist country?

    Of course not.
     
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    #35
    Well you're almost there, at least you acknowledge that the majority members of religions are wackos and morons. But you need to read the bible or koran or which ever ones you read, because in all honesty, it's full of crap.

    Why did "god" choose the date that "it" did, why not today with all the media that is available today, plus people are better educated today than it was at that era, though I did say better educated, I don't really mean that people of today are smarter, it still holds an equal amount of ignorance, I'm sure.

    What I think is that, then - people dint go to school to learn basic things, but to those that learned how to read and write, wrote something and read to those that couldn't, which became an asset to those with the knowledge in that field, which they became intellectuals and held prominent status and they were heard, people listened.

    During that time in Jesus days, there were hundreds like him preaching "gods" words, there was so many that it was more like an Olympics, this people preach and preach and never did any manual labor because there were people that listened and was willing to pay them in some ways to keep them preaching.

    Today, not much has change, it is the same as it was, we have people today that could get their Ordained Minister certificate online. I know a couple of those people that got them online and let me tell you that if there were any reputation in whatever field this religion had, it is being tarnished by this people, but guess what, there are actually people that will listen to them and they do and I'm scratching my head.

    Those ordained minister would go from one church to another either to volunteer and get some form of payment through the church or until they become the shit of ministering, then the big bucks comes rolling in, books and seminars, audio tapes and CD's and tv contracts, yeay yeah, big bucks and women.

    Churches are scams, they make billions of dollars and all of it are tax free, they claim they are doing things for the community, well in some ways they do,, but they become like a government that they take so much from you and give a little back and keep the rest to themselves.

    I really believe organize religion needs to be regulated, I know, freedom of religion and I support that, but I don't want this fuckers running around controlling the world, I know how they think and it is crazy, they are responsible for much of the worlds chaos and to think they believe in something that is suppose to be good, but they do the opposite of it,,.yeah yeah, blame the devil.

    What's odd though to me that the devil worshiper are not doing those "evil" act. When was the last time has anyone heard of a Devil Worshiper killing people around? Very odd indeed. Maybe we need to convert all of you to the Devil and maybe will get peace for once. lol
     
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    #36
    Personally, I think science is full of crap. I guess we'll find out in 2012. Wait, didn't they say the end would happen in 1993, 1995, 1997, 1998, 2000, and 2005?

    I'm not sure why God chose those days as a major part of testimony as opposed to nowadays which since now we are in the technology times. Apart from the Mesozoic Era I think it doesn't really matter. The people still did the same things as people do today. It was just very simple. If they were like crazy caveman living like carnivores in africa then nobody would be able to even relate to anything from it. I'm sure that people may say the same thing in 1000 yrs from now if the bible was created for these times.
    There is an answer somewhere but I definatly don't know it for sure.

    No doubt. There were probably 1 in 20.

    You should see Jack Van Imp's wifes' Diamont earrings. There are like 100,000 rocks on each ear man!. Its stupid.

    Nothing can have that control. I know, it would be nice. Heck, there's so many dirt crooked cops on each force, and they always break the law and cover each up. They need to organize that too.
    It just can't be done. Where there is people there will be a bunch of BS.

    I disagreed when Christians started fighting about that Homo getting married thing a few years back. They were trying to control other peoples lifes. I ain't no homo but if these idiots want to be Christian right they need to learn that just because they believe something does not mean that everyone should think the same.

    Most devil worshipers are actually skitso's. Most of the crap they do is related to violence. I would assume anyway.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #37
    Your example is actually funny because you unconsciously described yourself but your orange is called God and holy spirit.
    In regard to the other part of your post where you argue against other Christians but you mention it is not accurate about you, this is a very common problem among mental patients in the hospitals, all other patients are crazy but not them. ;)
     
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    #38
    You are just being a forum troll. Trying to get all personal but everything you throw doesn't have a single line of post value to it. The amount of stupid crap that you talk just doesn't end, does it?
     
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    #39
    You really didn't think this through before reacting to it, did you? The "book...dictated", as you put it, came after the "writing (and READING)" had been, humanly, invented, because to had done it in the order you suggest wouldn't have been very smart. . .let alone GOD-LIKE.
    What good is a book (of words) to a person who has yet learn to "write (and READING)"???
    What would that accomplish, since you've yet to do anything with all the "amazing stuff" stuff contained in HIS "book". . .except to maybe try and, very ignorantly (see my response to wwws, below), ridicule it?

    You're assuming that this didn't happen. Abraham, the Father of the Jewish people, was called out by my "imaginary friend". . .from paganism; ergo, it was very complicated for HIM to call me out of anything that may have been, while I was "mentally defenseless", indoctrinated to.
    Apparently NOT.
    It is because scoffers, scorners, unbelievers ("ats" and "ags"), and the likes, HERE in DP, show such a proclivity towards being down on what you're not up on, that I do what I do. Never believe for an iota of mirco-second, that ignorance is bliss. . .especially when it comes to things of THE GOD of Scripture. Just as it is written, "The heavens declare THE GLORY of GOD; and the firmament shows HIS handy work. (Psalm 19:1)"

    I guess you can only do what you can only do, no matter how futile it may be. If your "KNOWLEDGE" were as capital as you try and make it out to be, and there is no GOD (and HIS WORD/TRUTH), then you'd know that which you claim to have "ridiculed" is only a wasted ridicule. . .but on the other hand, since there is GOD, HIS WORD/TRUTH, in the end you be in heap big do-do. . .with THE ONE WHO gets to ridicule last, as it is written, "HE that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: THE LORD shall have them in derision. (Psalm 2:4)"
    In this case, a piece of HIS "candy" is the very air you breathe. . .but I don't see you passing that up; and part of HIS "truck" is your eternal/everlasting security. . .will you pass on that as well?
    Have the following "proven to be false,negative"???
    1) GOD knew enough way back, "In the beginning", to render Adam unconscious before removing his rib, in order to fashion Eve; Seems that we only learned to do this when performing major surgery on other humans. . .less than 200 years ago. How many folks do you think died needlessly because we were too dumb to realize what GOD knew "In the beginning"?
    2) Less than 100 years ago, we (Explorers/Scientists) discovered, "the springs of the sea"; yet Job (arguably, the old book in Scripture) 38:16 makes mention of them way on way back when.

    So then, need I mention why circumcision can't be done prior to a male child's eight day out of the womb? What about, in a laboratory setting, the only sea going vessel to ever withstand a catastrophe storm was a scaled down model of Noah's Ark?
    Why don't you try examining, first hand, for yourself, that which you believe are just "lies continues to this days"?

    As for all the catastrophes that you listed, when GOD'S presence is NOT accepted and/or is un-welcomed/rejected in a place, catastrophes are sure to ensue (Scripture calls this "Ichabod". . .or "Hell". . .and finally, "the lake of fire..."). . .just look at our public schools today.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #40
    Aww he cares about you gworld!

    That's all that matters isn't it?







    Isn't it?
     
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