US gave nuke materials to Iran

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ferret77, Aug 27, 2006.

  1. #1
    http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/143862

    Isn't it ironic how we sold Iraq chemical weapons then invaded them because they have chemical weapons, and now we are talking about attacking Iran because they are trying to do nuke stuff, with nuke stuff we gave them
     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    Yes. Our inability to predict the future sure is a drawback sometimes :rolleyes:
     
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    marketjunction Well-Known Member

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    Hell, we've given something to just about every country out there at one time or another. At times, we provide both sides of a conflict with resources.

    It's good ol' fashion American foreign policy.
     
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  4. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    How do you need to predict the future to know not to give nuclear materials to a someone like the shah ?

    umm, its not just anything, like some guns or something its nuclear materials
     
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  5. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #5
    Who is "we?" Are you speaking on behalf of Germans, Dutch, Egyptians, Indians, Arabs ???

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

    I suppose if the only way to get moonbats to see the threat is to let them "blame America first" for something else, then so be it.

    BTW, "we" (Clinton/Carter, that is) gave North Korea nuclear materials. Carter got a Nobel Peace Prize out of it. Now *that's* ironic ;)
     
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  6. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    Are you saying that if someone sold more of them then us its ok?

    What are you talking about, you are being incoherent

    Well thats interesting but what is your point?
     
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    Rick_Michael Peon

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    #7
    Two different contexts of time...this point it moot.
     
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  8. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #8
    You didn't read my post did you? There were questions and answering questions with questions is a means of avoiding them. Who is "we?"

    Blame America first, always :rolleyes:

    Draw a parallel with your original post (or, to help better, pretend it was a Republican administration that supplied North Korea with nuclear materials) to see the point.

    Rick is right, two different points in time. We don't promise to be allies with others, forever, and they don't promise to be our allies forever either.
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    Thats odd coming from someone who was just extolling the virtues of knowing the history of events. What exactly is what you think the "point" is? That US seems to create its own worst enemies repeatedly,

    We propped up saddam, helped arm him, then later we have to fight him

    We helped train and arm muslim extremists in their fight against the soviets, and in return we get Bin Ladin

    Now we helped give Iran nuclear materials , now they are one of the biggest theats in the world.

    Do you see a pattern there?
     
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  10. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    I don't care , who did it. I don't care if it was carter/clinton , bush/reagan, don't you see that it doesn't matter?

    Our mad lust for oil continues to create almost all foreign problems we have now.
     
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    marketjunction Well-Known Member

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    Right. Sorry if I don't seemed excited. I didn't know this was news.

    It's not just some guns, it's a whole lot of military equipment and information. ;)
     
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    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    The problem is us giving Muslim nations the benefit of the doubt time and time again, just to get fucked again and again.
     
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  13. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #13
    I know you don't care about America, you don't have to remind me. As long as you can blame America first and only. I know ferret, I know. Same shit, different day :rolleyes:

    Spank me daddy, I've been naughty!
     
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  14. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    ok another totally crazy and incohernt post

    heres gtech

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  15. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    And here's ferret:

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  16. Rick_Michael

    Rick_Michael Peon

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    You've just stated it.

    We also created the perfect enviroment for Hitler by entering world war I. Had we not entered, the versaille treaty wouldn't have existed as-is. Hiter may have died in the war, and Germany would have a less intensively punishing condition on them. The commies would have less likely been in power, especially in china. Millions upon millions would have not died, and perhaps the whole route of history would be different.

    All this creating more enemies, deaths and problems...but in the context of that time it made sense.


    Iran just held our people hostage for a year...wise or not, do you think it's ever been American policy not to defeat people that have wronged us? We had a policy of indirect war against our enemies (by any means) for sometime now.

    Personally I think Saddam and the people leading the 'Islamic Revolution' were equally morons.

    Yes. So what!? It's not like Bin Laden is half as dangerous as Communist Russia was...they had the potential of eliminated the whole of the US and they had instability and enviroment to do so. That conflict was among many other indirect tactics (we iniatiated) which made the Commie nation financially crumble.

    Bin Laden was bearly anything in the fight against the solviet...most of it was done by others.

    The shah was a bit different than the Islamic Revolution, don't you think? Thus context.

    Regardless, current international law doesn't say Iran can't have nucleur power, it just says an international watch dog must have full view of it.
     
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  17. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    I only smoke newports

    here is gtech again

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  18. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Considering all that *could* be wrong with the photo, it's interesting you only take issue with the brand of cigarettes ;)
     
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    dude menthols will kill you :D
     
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    I'm afraid that they will get their nukes, - one or the other way, - probalbly not the way they speculate though :rolleyes:
     
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