301 Redirect on same domain - old url have good pr

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  1. #1
    Hi freiends,

    i convert my static website to joomla so every thing is changed in my site

    my site www. xyz123 .com/abc_123.html now become www. xyz123 .com/abc-(dash)123. html and some other url completely changed to new adress in same domain i 301 redirect all this url to new addresses successfully

    my old url has good pr (google page rank) and ranking in google

    my question is how google react for my new address, google pass pr to new address? i also changed www. xyz .com/index.html to www. xyz .com
    this main url have PR3
     
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  2. bobchrist

    bobchrist Active Member

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    If you've already done the 301 just forget what was its PR earlier, give time to google to recognize your new url and focus more on building links for the new domain.
     
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  3. megathrone

    megathrone Active Member

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    301 is exactly what you have to do.
     
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  4. Abhik

    Abhik ..:: The ONE ::..

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    Yeah!! a 301 redirect will preserve both the PR and link juice from old URL.
     
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    Fracisc Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes it is hard to implement 301. If you cannot implement 301 for all your links you should do it manually for the most important ones. That`s what I did on one of my sites where the URL structure changed irregularly.
     
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  6. nile1483

    nile1483 Active Member

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    Thanks for all your reply

    i dont get exact reply in detail but i thanks for try

    now please tell me if you know that i should keep old URL or i have to delete it

    if i delete it old url, i will loose pr assigned page and
    if i keep this page as it, duplicate content issue

    if any body have idea please let me know

    regards
    nilesh
     
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  7. kdenisk

    kdenisk Well-Known Member

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    Put 301 redirection from old URLs to new ones and by next update you'll see all your rankings assigned to new pages.
     
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    kdenisk Well-Known Member

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    There is no reason for keeping old pages. By putting R301 you won't loose site's rankings and won't create any duplicate content. In your case adding redirections is simple. It can be done using .htaccess file with a little usage of regexp.
     
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    But in terms of links for the old pages may be affected when you delete the old page. So keep the old page is best
     
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2009
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    nile1483 Active Member

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    yes this is good answer and you get rep add from me for such good answer
     
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  11. magda

    magda Notable Member

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    If he's got a permanent server side redirect in place this is irrelevant - this is what the 301 is for
     
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    I don't think you need a 301 redirection on your domain for you have not change your domain totally. IMO. :)

    Have a nice day,
     
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    magda Notable Member

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    Yes he does - if he's changing the url structure of specific pages, he needs to redirect the old pages to the new pages -
    if he used to have a page that was www.aaaazzzzxxxx.com/news.html
    and it's now www.aaaazzzzxxxx.com/news.php

    he should redirect the first url to the second
     
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  14. adacprogramming

    adacprogramming Well-Known Member

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    #14
    I always keep the old pages on the site. It kind of makes a mess of your directories but it ensures that links going to the old pages continues to be redirected to the new pages.

    even 301 redirects do not appear to be truly permanent. as an experiment in the past I 301ed some domain names to pages on a site. A year or so later I created a site with the domain name. soon after I created the site Google indexed the domain as if it never had the redirect. I believe the redirect is only accepted by google as long as the redirected page still exists with the redirect code on it. when google finds links to the redirected page and follows them, getting redirected again to the new page it confirms the redirect. If it finds that the page no longer exists it marks it as a 404 and eventually deletes it from the index and you then lose the links that were pointing to it.
     
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    The page should not have the code for the redirect on it - if you're doing that, it sounds more like it's some kind of meta-refresh or meta-redirect, rather than a server side redirect.
     
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    adacprogramming Well-Known Member

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    Not when you are working with PHP or asp. If you are redirecting html pages you need to do it in htaccess or with IIS. When you are working with aspx pages it is easier to do the redirects on the page (rather than mess with IIS). These are server side redirects.

    It's also a lot easer to handle parameterized URL on the page level then in IIS or htacces, at least in my opinion. Either way accomplishes the same thing.
     
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    301 will work. You can also use webmaster tools to move the address if both sites are verified.
     
    Lex350, Jan 11, 2010 IP