Israeli spies carrying out 'racial profiling' at International Airports

This new instance where yet another fanatic muslim that perfectly fit the profile of a terrorist was allowed aboard a US-bound plane is a perfect example of why somebody absolutely *should* be profiling potential terrorists instead of letting them get on board planes... especially those headed for destinations that are known targets of islamic hatred (aka: islamic racism).

[Yes, I know "American" isnt a race, but fwiw, neither is "Muslim".]

Today those willing to strap on the mantle of self-immolation on behalf of their warped fantasies about islamic victimhood and futile dreams of muslim domination often start out as internet trolls who practice wannabe jihadism with a keyboard. The idiot muslim kid in Dallas was a textbook example, the psycho psychiatrist at Ft Hood (who owed every opportunity he had to his parents moving to the US) was another. Both trolled the net displaying their impotent anger on behalf of their warped religious ideology and eventually bought into the idea that they were going to practice jihad in real life. [Yes, they're pathetic wastes to wanna kill innocent strangers, but fortunately they generally arent as bright as they are disturbed.]

Tells me there are a number of people here that need to be added to airport watchlists in case they decide to merge their fantasy life with the real world. Also explains why so many of them are incapable of doing the job successfully if the new terrorists are coming out of such a brain-dead pool to begin with. I've yet to see one wannabe jihadist that understood simple logic, so figuring out pyrotechnics may be outta reach.

Again, Kudos to Israel for showing the common sense to export realistic security measures even in cases where local governments are too stupid and shortsighted to do it themself. Stopping terrorists from blowing up others is NOT hatred... wanting to shield them from capture IS. To those criticizing Israel on this issue, try to remember that.

 

i think thiis is right

 

Rob, you summed it up perfectly. I would have + reped you but I have to spread it around some first. If you pop over to the DP Islam Social Group advertised in New's signature, you'll see the group has little to do with "loving" anything, and a lot to do with fueling feelings of Muslim victimization and hatred of the west, particularly Israel and the US.

The entire theme of their posts is a single minded focus on perceived grievances, often based on conjecture and half truths, without even the slightest amount of balance. I'm not a fan of big government, but more than ever I find myself hoping our government is paying attention to sites like this (and thousands of others) where people can semi anonymously open up and provide a very realistic insight into what it is they are thinking. To not take it seriously is just stupid.

[Edit]Another thing showing how right Israel has it. I'm watching Janet Napolitano right now explaining how they couldnt have done anything more than what they already did to keep this idiot off the flight, and how the new security procedures, baring people from getting up to take a leak in the last hour of the flight will solve the problem, and I'm thinking BULLSHIT! They had this guy's name on a list. His own dad rolled into a US embassy to tell them how his son was being radicalized. Even if that isnt enough to put him on the "No Fly list", it sure as shit should have put him on the "Body Cavity Search If You Want To Fly to the US" list. A little profiling would save US citizens a lot of headache and money. Why can't these people figure that out?

 

When I lived in Switzerland I told my wife maybe she could apply for a job in the El Al security in the Zürich Airport. Since at that time we had 2 more years to live there, her application was denied because the training is 6 months long and one must commit to a 5 year contract.

These security personnel are a pain in the ass usually, even me they interrogate for 10 minutes sometimes, and nobody can look and sound more Israeli than myself. But this works: the last Israeli plane was hijacked in the 70's and since then the terrorist didn't even think of putting El-Al to the test.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Al#El_Al_security

 

It is exactly the thing which the OP and his soul mates are overanxious about.

 

OK guys we understand

for criminal sympathizers of isreal, it is fine to breach all international laws be it spying, espionage, killing of children .all is well as long as it is done by isreal
it must be good if isreal is doing it


are you really naive enough to think that there is no way to protect and secure the isreali airline without espionage on a sovereign state ?
why didn't isreal raise the issue of security with SA?
if they were not cooperating why didn't isreal suspend its flights from SA ?
why revert to criminal means ?

and as I mentioned earlier
This is not NEW for isreal
it is their habit to back-stab others
http://www.beehive.govt.nz/node/20339
why send secret agents to NZ ?


I feel sorry for all your shameless pathetic behavior which tries to justify every criminal action nurtured by isreal

 

Why New, I thought you wouldn't have the temerity/stupidity to come back to this thread since an Al Queda operative made it onto a NW Airlines flight on Christmas day with explosives for lack of proper screening (read profiling). Since you've decided to return, let me spell it out for you in short words so you can easily understand.

Not only is Israel doing the right thing by having its security personal racially profile El Al passengers in foreign airports, the rest of the world needs to do the same thing until people who think like you are not even permitted on most flights.

 

the country from which you are operating i.e. SA in this case agrees than you can do whatever you want that would not be espionage

however what isreal did/does is in itself a breach of international laws and norms ... who permits spying ?

so again are you really naive enough to think that there is no way to protect and secure the isreali airline without espionage on a sovereign state ?
why didn't isreal raise the issue of security with SA?
if they were not cooperating why didn't isreal suspend its flights from SA ?
why revert to criminal means ?

and as I mentioned earlier
This is not NEW for isreal
it is their habit to back-stab others
http://www.beehive.govt.nz/node/20339
why send secret agents to NZ ?

 

If you want to call it that, fine. It beats the alternative of having these people on airplanes and/or having to deal with idiotic rules like no getting up to go to the bathroom in the last hour of a flight. I think you'll find most of the civilized world agrees.

Your definition. El Al flights are secure. Period. Since Christmas, you will find more and more countries taking these profiling actions under their own wing, eliminating the need for foreign entities to do it themselves.

Don't be sad. There is always the train, though I suspect those rules will start to become applicable for railways as well.

 

of-course I will call it that but I know that you don't have the guts to call-out any crime done by isreal as crime

and civilized world does not agree on spying and espionage

this is not my definition, any one having an iota of morals will frown upon the idea of breaching the sovereignty of independent states
reverting to criminal means is no excuse for anything

and don't try to downplay it by just saying 'profiling', the person who was expelled from SA was a isreali secret service agent

 

Wake up man. We spy on our own people. Its called the Patriot Act. Do we like it? No. Do we tolerate it and support it as long as your kind continue to exist? Yes.

You complaining about the "Immorality" of such actions is like bank robbers complaining about how bank cameras infringe on an individual's right to privacy. It may be true, but complaints about it coming from people like you only promote the activity. In that spirit, carry on!

 

new has his panties in a twist because Israel actually manages to stop these Islamic terrorists before they kill infidels. Well, new says Israel is not playing fair. They should not profile they should just let Islamic terrorists onto their plains. It is only fair cries new.

When are you going to get it through you head? The world simply does not give a shit about Islamic terrorists. In a couple of years it will be a miracle if any of you terrorist supporters are ever allowed to fly at all.

 

Dang, I never have enough green when I need it.

 

Hi New:

While you have returned, and had the audacity to cry about Israel's efforts to protect the passengers on its airlines, an Al Queda representative was foiled when he tried to blow up a plane and kill over 250 passengers....

and Muslims killed another 30 Muslims while injuring many others http://www.arabnews.com/?page=4&section=0&article=130369&d=29&m=12&y=2009

Your comments continue to show that you don't care at all when Muslims kill Muslims. You don't care when nations and institutions work to protect their people and those that would fly on their airlines.

My point is simply if Islam actually cared about its own people it would rise up and take actions against those who would kill its own people.

You obviously don't care. Instead of acting against the killers, you cry about a nation protecting the innocent.

Within the West, within Israel, within the US there is nothing going on like the violence of Muslims against Muslims. Instead these people work to protect their own, Christians, Jews, Muslims that would fly their airlines.

You on the other hand don't care about Muslims obviously. You don't raise your voice against this violent and constant killing. You would rather whine and cry because some nations would protect people.

Why do you waste our time with your brutish hatred?

 

Govt can spy on it own people. when it is covered under the law of land which has been made be the represenatativs chosen by people
however, when a Govt spies over another country than it is a criminal act

So what do you say.
why didn't isreal raise the issue of security with SA?
if they were not cooperating why didn't isreal suspend its flights from SA ?
why isreal revert to criminal means ?

yet another apologist of criminal actions

wow! how simple. a shameless work of spying on a sovereign state
and you find it as 'effort to protect passengers'

do you think that SA wanted to kill the passengers that is why it expelled out the busted spy ?
likewise it was very inconsiderate of NZ to kick out the harmless isreali spies .. how cruel the world is , no one appreciates the good efforts of isreal like spying and espionage on other countries

 

The complaint with SA was actually about racially profiling, not espionage. As you might expect, racially profiling in South Africa is a very touchy subject. For terrorists, it is a great way to get onto El Al flights because they are normally profiled out in any other international airport which El Al services. Just cry racism, like you do in Palestine.

I can understand why you are pissed off about it though. I'd be pissed off too if I was on a No Fly list. Try and look at it this way. There are always trains, boats, and automobiles. I'm sure you can find your way to Afghanistan.

 

for checking the passengers at the airports you don't need to send in agents from your secret service

and I can also understand why you are pissed
the state sponsored criminals of isreal caught red handed by neutral countries like SA and NZ .. that must be a lot of humiliation

anyway keep up your efforts to defend the immoral actions
after all we can't expect that you will condemn any action, no matter how insane, done by isreal

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_Bet

I'm not pissed at all. I think its funny. El Al still has yet to be taken out of the sky by the cockroaches, South Africa expels one Shin Bet agent, while it remains common knowledge that most of the El Al office in SA is Shin Bet and they remain to racially profile in a country where that exact activity is illegal. It seems pretty obvious that SA is going to turn a blind eye to this.

We both agree the activity is illegal. It seems our only difference of opinion is whether the activity is immoral. Then again, your kind find the exposure of a woman's skin to be immoral, so I don't find it surprising at all that we disagree. To me, it seems clear that someone magnetized the wrong end of the needle in your moral compass.

 

To start the year off, Muslim terrorists killed at least 32 people and wounded about 70. More deaths are expected from among the wounded.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/201...akistan.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss&src=igw

New: Do you wish to say anything about these killers? Do you support the Muslim killers who kill their own people? So far you have not condemned a single action in which Muslims kill Muslims. So far when Muslims kill Muslim women and children you don't speak up. I guess you support these murders. You don't condemn them.

Meanwhile you go on and on and on about Israeli's working to protect people against killers in the sky.

Why would anyone with a brain listen to anything you write about? You won't lift a finger or voice a word against the endless slaughtering of Muslims, by Muslims, especially women and children. Meanwhile you moan about Swiss zoning laws and Israeli's trying to protect people. And you drive it all back saying that these people are against Muslims.

Its quite obvious that Muslims kill more Muslims and act against Muslims more often than all the non-Muslims in the world act against Muslims.

You don't condemn these Muslims killing Muslims. I assume you support it.

I repeat. Why would anyone with a brain consider anything you write about to be anything but the rantings of someone who supports Muslims killing Muslims. Muslims killing his own people.

 

I just booked a flight to Switzerland.
Fondue, Texas holdem poker in the casino, dance salsa, friends from the phD time, parties, great beer, SKI, lakes, cows......

but best of all:
Its free of annoying, noisy, ugly minarets, and the flight is as secure as it could get!

eat this, new.