PAGE RANK is OVER as of October! Unless someone can prove me wrong.

PAGE RANK is OVER as of October! Unless someone can prove me wrong.

Straight from Wikipedia

"On October 14, 2009, Google employee Susan Moskwa confirmed that the company had removed PageRank from its Webmaster Tools section. Her post said in part, "We’ve been telling people for a long time that they shouldn’t focus on PageRank so much; many site owners seem to think it’s the most important metric for them to track, which is simply not true." [26] PageRank was still displayed on the Google Toolbar web appliance two days after Moskwa's confirmation."

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I havent been able to get PAGE RANK on a site in 2 days either.


-C

 

OMH. this is very very old news. And also the way you interpreted that quote is not precise not accurate.

 

I understand this is "OLD NEWS" , its from October. Btw..my title got your attention ( i do believe PAGE RANK is History)

BUt the FACT is , PAGE Rank is now showing ANYMORE! This tells me that its not goin to be around anymore. Google didn't always use page rank and there was a time where yahoo search was more popular than Google.

Google is going in an odd direction with Search.. They are going real time, showing things like Live Twitter results.

The questions are, Does content matter, inbound backlinks? WHAT IS IT, that google uses to rank websites now? We really don't know and its all up in the air. How will google determine if site A ranks higher than Site B ,C ,D and so on.

This is frustrating for MANY webmasters.

Is this a time for BING and Yahoo to soar? Where is Google going with Search and their ranking system?

Opinions on this?

-C

 

It's now december and a day or two it turns to 2010. But until now I can still see that my site has pagerank. Maybe it will take time before pr will totally vanish.

 

What site are you using to check your Page Rank? Thats ODD...i checked 2 for 2 days and NOTHING...now it appears to be working....Google can't make up their mind , i Hope they keep Page Rank...but i have a feeling its over

-C

 

As a matter of fact, Google still remains as the number 1 search engine online (except China).

They only remove pagerank from showing to public on Google Webmaster tools.
Pagerank is still visible on PR toolbar and many other PR checker sites.

We can't say that Google have removed pagerank completely from their product of lines. If it is removed, it should be removed completely where no one should be able to get this details anymore.

I will believe pagerank is over when they stop showing it to the public completely and not only from Google Webmaster tool.

 

yeah page rank over now u have to wait for page rank now at feb for next update

 

Atiz... I couldn't have said it ANY BETTER myself

I agree that Google is the Best

That is rather odd that they would remove it from webmaster tools but still provide the rankings on other sites from their datacenters. Very interesting to say the least.

-C

 

Then, If it will come true our works should focuses on get traffic onyly from Social networking sites...?? Then all other referral sites might be closed....??

 

If Google CLoses Page Rank, They have to come out and let us know how they are ranking the sites.. I would hope so at least..

We wait patiently for our good friends at google

-C

 

the page rank in webmaster tools was only showing as high, medium and low as far as i recall, so was not of much use in there anyway in webmaster tools. It made sense to remove it from webmaster tools.

My google toolbar program was updated yesterday by google to version 5, to include the side wiki in the toolbar etc, and it still includes the page rank bar, so it is far from over.

All google want to to realise if page rank is not the "be all" of every thing for webmasters.

ALso how can you say it's over in October when it is now December ??

 

As others have said, you've misinterpreted their statement. PageRank still exists, and it's still a big factor in determining SERP placement. Google uses pagerank to quantify the quality and quantity of your backlinks.

The removed it from Google WebMaster central in October so that webmasters wouldn't focus on it when building their sites. Focus on your on page optimization and your quality backlinks, adn your pagerank will come naturally.

 

<Rant>
PR PR PR ... Another PR post, will end up going into more pages and pages.
I do read it though, to see if it's anything new here.
But it's always the same story
</Rant>

 

You people need to READ. Susan Moskwa NEVER said "Google is not using Page Rank in their ranking algorithm." She NEVER said that!

All she said was that they stopped showing the distrubution of number of pages with low, medium, and high page ranks from WMT. Period. End of story... end of scoop! People so often read one thing and jump to conclusions about something totally unrelated.

Google has ALWAYS said stop focusing on PR. Write unique and compelling content that will be useful to visitors if you want to rank well. The theory is that this will make others link to you naturally over time and eventually lead to great rankings.

So MANY webmasters think, "My page is PR6, it should rank well for EVERY search phrase related to my niche." Bullshit. That is NOT how rankings work. Page Rank is keyword phrase agnostic... It is a measure of link popularity... how MANY sites link to you (quantity of links), and how strong those links are (quality of links).

Page Rank in the very early days of Google DID carry a lot of weight in their algorithm. It was one thing made Google unique. But Google has since refined their algorithm thousands of times. They saw spammers using various spamming techniques to gain crappy links to some spam site w/ crappy content and get great rankings because PR carried so much weight. So they started placing more weight on other things... relevance, link text, authority, <title>, etc. The weight given to the PR of the URL being ranked in the overall algorithm at Google has gone from high in the first couple years... to very low now days.

So ALL Susan was saying is basically (to paraphrase her), "We keep telling people that PR doesn't carry the weight it used to and has very little affect on a URLs ranking for a particular keyword phrase. So displaying it in WMT seems to send conflicting signals... it seems to say it carries a lot of weight when in fact it does not. So we removed it from WMT."

They will likely NEVER stop using PR in the ranking algorithm. They simply refine it's use over time. I doubt any changes related to PR were made to the algorithm at or near the time of her announcement as a direct result of the announcement. They simply stopped displaying the PR distribution in WMT because it sent the message that PR of your URL is important in how that URL ranks for a particular keyword phrase, and it's not.

 

I agree with everything you said here, except for one..

I'll have to respectfully disagree here. PR is how Google quantifies the quantity and quality of your backlinks. Google has changed the way they determine PR, and they do now include things like relevance, authority, etc. And they have changed their ranking algorithm to include other factors like page load speed, broken links, etc. But PR is still a big factor. maybe not as big as it once was, but i wouldn't call it a "very low" factor.

 

I do not see google stoping page rank any time soon. They still find links from other sites and always spider sites that are ranked well and have alot of links pointing to them. They might reduce the value of links but not sop useing Pr anytime soon.

 

So how will they determine which site is better if there is no PR anymore, by content only? Seams kinda dumb and I hope they change their minds.

 

the green bar still shows on all the sites I visit

 

ROFLMAO you're kidding right? You are aware that Google is looking at over 200 ranking factors for each URL they rank? PR of that URL is only ONE of 200+ factors. They've been looking LOTS of other factors for a LONG time.

 

If you'll notice I said the PR of the URL being ranked doesn't carry a lot of weight these days in how that same page ranks for a particular keyword phrase. I didn't mention the PR of the pages linking to that URL being ranked.

High PR backlinks DO add extra punch to an inbound link, but only if the link text is applicable and hopefully the page linking to you is also relevant. I agree that the PR of the page linking to your URL DOES directly affect the quality or strength of the link along with other things.