Obama Approval Rating Falling!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Corwin, Feb 24, 2009.

  1. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #1361
    Just to be clear, the "Bush Doctrine" was and claimed to be an just an extension of the "Clinton Doctrine". Personally, I think it's the right Doctrine for the USA to take, although some of President Obama's recent moves seem to take it to an extreme and might move us dangerously towards an Imperial United States (SPQR!).

    And remember, President Clinton's doctrine sent American troops into another foreign country on an average of once every nine weeks. And Clinton's actions in Iraq can arguably be taken as the Second Iraq War. President Clinton sent troops into more countries, then any President since WWII.

    And, personally, I think he USUALLY did it for the right reasons.
     
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  2. DubDubDubDot

    DubDubDubDot Peon

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    #1362
    The US media elects our presidents and is the sole influence of approval ratings.

    Right now the Obama topic is in the negative portion of the news cycle, so it's no surprise that his approval rating is coming down. When news viewers get tired of watching negative Obama stories and the TV ratings go down, they will focus on the positives to inject new life into Obama coverage. And with that will come higher approval ratings.
     
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  3. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #1363
    LoL. So then according to you, none of this has anything to do with the economy, jobs, the war, health care, or anything else.
     
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    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #1364
    Actually, I think all of that is media related come to think of it. Each one has a case of being media influenced.
     
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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1365
    No, it has to do with his lack of attention to all of the above. That and his constant lack of priorities.

    People want the following addressed:

    1. Economy
    2. Jobs

    Obama is concentrating on:

    1. Climate Change
    2. Health Care

    No one gives two shits about either.

    One (we've recently found out) is bullshit, made up, and a crock.
    The other is nothing more than a way to perpetuate government spending.
     
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  6. Breeze Wood

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    #1366
    ~ "will signal a shift in our mission” - Rather a lame response when the shift should already be taking place, on this topic Obama gets a D- for appeasing the Republicans then trying to have it both ways.
     
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  7. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1367
    Ah, I doubt very much he is appeasing anyone on the right. He does not have to, nor do I believe he would even want to. If he were, then you'd see actual health care debate on both sides of the isle rather than closed door sessions with only the left present.
     
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    #1368
    Of course it does, but what matters most is how the US media frames these stories out.

    Obama was a media darling for over a year. Now the script calls for them to position him and the Dems in a slightly negative light to keep the masses entertained by the news shows.

    Even if what the Dems have put into motion is going to turn the economy around in 6 months, the media won't report that now because they can't report the same thing for the next 6 months. They are going to milk the negative stories for awhile longer.
     
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  9. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #1369
    I hate to shoot holes in your theory, but people were shouting down their congressional reps in town halls prior to the media finding Obama's sheen to be a bit dull. Hell, the media didn't even want to report it, unless they were slandering it.

    • Arm of the Republican Party
    • Racist
    • Not representative of anyone

    Perhaps what you are seeing is the media's realization of reality, not the masses realization of the media's reality. They are slow, but they can be taught.

    Of course I can throw all the reason at your disbelief of Obama's dropping numbers, but if you are a good zealot, denial is probably preferable. Perhaps this chart would serve as a better sobering cup of coffee. Here you will find that less than 37% of Americans feel the news reports the news accurately, and 26% feel the news is unbiased. Perhaps you are arguing that the masses are such idiots, they are aware the news is fixed but blindly follow it anyway? I think people can look around at their many unemployed friends and realize things are not good.
     
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    #1370
    ~ Osama bin Laden and crew could not have been happier than to see the Bush Administration destabilize Iraq while bankrupting the US economy and likewise continuing the hostilities they desire now in Afghanistan by Obama and the disservice the American Military continues to exhibit for the sake of a handful of rough characters destined for martyrdom were they ever apprehended.
     
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    #1371
    Do you speak for Bin Laden? Just askin.
     
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  12. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1372
    This assumes that the frail dialysis dependent old man was even alive.
     
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    #1373
    He must be we have the videos? when do you think he died?
     
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  14. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1374
    What videos? He's been dead for 8 years!
     
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    #1375
    You forgot Zogby... Zogby is always good for a left-lean.
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1376
    Isn't it amazing how Gallup was this wonderful, perfect, long standing 70++++ Years in the business pollster just a few posts back? Remember these guys talking about how Gallup was the GOLD STANDARD for polling? How Gallup knows best, while places like Rasmussen were right leaning?

    Now when Gallup starts displaying numbers even lower than a Fox News Poll, or Rasmussen, they are suddenly shifting sides?

    I just do not get these guys on the left. They only approve of things that they agree with.
     
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  17. Toopac

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    #1377
    That's good.

    You should call someone in authority and tell them this.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #1378
    Interestingly, Rasmussen is the ONLY polling outfit that does not use humans to collect the data. The polls are done by robo call with a disembodied emotionless voice asking the questions. They could still be loading the question format, sequence, and how they screen "likely voters", but they seem to have eliminated at least one of the human factors that could cause error in polling. Also, the attempt to determine "Likely Voter" status may explain why their results were the most accurate in the last presidential election. Asking people who have never voted, people under the age of voting, and people who aren't US citizens seems to serve little purpose in determining what the real outcome of an election will be, yet there are many polls on RealClearPolitics.com that don't even qualify registered voters (Voting population sample says "All").
     
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  19. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1379
    Perhaps you'd care to share some of these videos you have showing him alive?

    This likely explains why they are so accurate. :D
     
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    #1380

    The UK numbnut PM said last week Osama is in Pakistan.
     
    Toopac, Dec 11, 2009 IP