Miracles Of Qur'an

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  1. azlanhussain

    azlanhussain Active Member

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    #121
    I have answered, given different situations.

    But without looking at any situation, do I think people who leave Islam should be killed? The answer is no.
     
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    azlanhussain Active Member

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    #122
    Nope. They were never been forced.
     
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  3. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #123
    De Lacy O’Leary, Islam at the Crossroads, London, 1923, p.8:

    “History makes it clear however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated.”

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    and about Holy Qur'an :

    Sarojini Naidu, Lectures on “The Ideals of Islam”, see Speeches and Writings of Sarojini Naidu, Madras, 1918, p. 167:

    “Sense of justice is one of the most wonderful ideals of Islam, because as I read in the Qur’an I find those dynamic principles of life, not mystic but practical ethics for the daily conduct of life suited to the whole world.”
     
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  4. aslanbash

    aslanbash Well-Known Member

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    #124
    this is so interesting :

     
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  5. Codythebest

    Codythebest Notable Member

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    #125
    Oh no...Another miracle of the Qu'ran that cannot take place.

    http://www.lalibre.be/toutelinfo/belga/124819/neuf-hommes-arretes-en-espagne-pour-avoir-tente-d-appliquer-la-charia-pour-adultere.html

    9 muslims living in Spain decided to create a jury and decided that a woman should die because they think she committed the crime of adultery.
    But she escape her cell and went to the police. Police arrested the 9 men...
    That's not cool...It's against the Qu'ran...No miracle here I guess...Poor guys...
     
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  6. ChaosTrivia

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    #126
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  7. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #127
    and my miracle for you
    1000-1000=50000-50000
    1000(1-1)=50000(1-1) factor out
    1000(1-1)/(1-1)=50000(1-1)/(1-1) divide both side by the same
    1000{(1-1)/(1-1)}=50000{(1-1)/(1-1)} regroup
    1000*1=50000*1 divided by itself=1
    1000=50000 :D:p:D
     
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  8. ChaosTrivia

    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    #128
    hehe.
    math line 3 ;)

    I like the quran miracles better.
     
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  9. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #129
    all joking aside i think Einstein proved something like this in a nulear reaction. i just can't remember
     
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  10. ChaosTrivia

    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    #130
    pizzaman, if you like math, here's a nice problem.

    A distant isolated village is made only of an infinite number of married couples.

    In the village, there are 3 rules:
    A) When a man cheats on his wife, god's angel will let all the other women in the village know about it, except the women who has been cheated.
    B) people NEVER talk with one another regarding their relationships with their spouses and/or other people.
    C) When a woman finds out that her husband cheated on her, she must kill him on the same day.

    Lets assume that for a long time, there are only 20 unfaithful men in the village who cheat on their wives.
    Clearly, this situation can go on for eternity. All women of the village will know the identity 20 cheating men, whereas 20 women (those who were cheated) will know of 19. but since the people of the village never talk with one another, No man will ever get killed by his wife. she simply has not even a theoretical chance of knowing that she's been cheated.

    But then, one day, a messenger from god (=one whose word is considered by the people of the village to be the truth) gathers all of the people of our village in the main square, the village where there are 20 unfaithful men for a long time.
    There, he says only the following sentence:
    "In this village, there is at least a single man who is unfaithful".

    Will this one sentence make a difference?
    if yes, what difference and why.
    :)
     
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  11. Codythebest

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    #131
    You can't divide by zero (1-1)...;)
     
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  12. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #132
    all the men will be killed. up to this point women have thought that the angel would also tell them about their own husbands cheating. by knowing that at least one man has cheated and his wife did not know, they will all assume that their husband is cheating and will kill him.
    or maybe they kill the angel
     
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  13. ChaosTrivia

    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    #133
    Wrong.
    Why would they kill their husbands? ---> all of them KNOW already that there is at least one cheating man in the village. The angel told them about all the men, except their own ;), so in principle the man of god gave no new information!

    The women of the village kill their husbands only when they are sure beyond any doubt that they were cheated.
    Assume that the women are not paranoid and smart.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #134
    you are just an unbeliver :D
    i can do anything
    can they tell each other how many man are cheating?
     
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  15. ChaosTrivia

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    #135
    nope. its against the rules of the village.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #136
    i have to think about this. i love these mind teasers
    maybe the men kill eah other
     
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  17. ChaosTrivia

    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    #137
    So I continue to work on my 11th website and you can take your time and think about it.

    typically for such mind teasers, if you give up --> when I will tell you the answer you will say: "oh..of course! so simple!". ;)
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #138
    ok but i ask again. do men become jealous and start fighting and killing each other or the women?
     
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  19. ChaosTrivia

    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    #139
    no. the men are stationary: they just screw their wives and sometimes other men's wives
    they don't speak with anybody, not even their own wives.
    they don't kill anybody.
    they don't care.

    only women can do the killing: they must kill only their own husband at the same day when they came to be 100% sure that they cheated.

    Nobody speaks with nobody.
     
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    #140
    The total number of cheaters = 20 males

    Each women knows 19 of the cheaters except her husband.

    Because all women together knows the 20 cheaters and 20 of them knows 19 of the cheaters which mean each women of all women knows 19 of the cheaters except her husband, then All woman = 20

    Each one of the 20 women knows 19 of the cheaters which is not her husband and the angel came another time and gather all, so all woman which are 20 will know now there are 20 cheaters which mean all cheaters of males known which will include there husbands.

    If you mean by this rule:
    C) When a woman finds out that her husband cheated on her, she must kill him on the same day.

    They will be killed all in the same day becuase all women will find in the same day.

    If you mean by the rule the following:
    C) When a woman finds out that her husband cheated on her, she must kill him on the same day he cheated.

    They wont be killed becuase when the angel come for the last time which is 21 it would be late.

    "In this village, there is at least a single man who is unfaithful".
    It means the angel came for the 21 time.

    Why?
    to make it simple lets assume there 2 cheater and all females knows the 2 cheaters wheres 2 females knows 1 cheater.

    1. The angle came the first time and told the 1st female about the second female husband. Then the second woman would not know that her husband is a cheater.
    2. The angles came the second time and told the second female about the 1st female husband. Then the 1st woman would not know that her husband is a cheater.

    So if he came 2 times only non of the females would know that her husband is cheating so he has to come for the 3rd time.

    In your example there are 20 females and 20 males and 20 females already knew 19 of the males which mean he came 20 times, so the last time he came was the 21 and which make each of the 20 women knows the 20 cheaters.
     
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