What if your beliefs are wrong?

Just think about it for a second. Let's be civilized in this topic and not bash anybody. Just a hypothetical question to you religious people. What if you were proven without a doubt that your religion was wrong and all holy books are false. I know some of you will think it's wrong to answer this but those who aren't afraid... just wondering what you would do?

 

Or if you are an Atheist, and it turns out there is a god. The answer is, you live with your choices and actions in life. Its not really even a what if question at all.

 

Well the thing is I don't label myself anything really. There is no reasons for us to believe anything if there is no proof for it. I think the truth is more important than anything and we should search for it... and science is the search for truth. Also what kind of answer was that Obamanation, you should've actually answered the question of the topic.

 

Well said - not much else you can do.

 

It never answered the question though. That's just avoiding it altogether like I expected it would. Yes, I could be wrong, but there is much more to this universe than we know, it also doesn't mean we have to jump the gun and make up an answer. I don't deny that it's a possibility for a higher power to exist. If there is one it is most likely not the one that any religion has made it. It is far beyond our understanding and there is absolutely no evidence, so there is no reason to believe and why would a higher power even care if we believe or not.

 

I would change it for the Truth.

 

Thanks for an honest answer Polite Teen.

 

~ How about the religion is correct and the holy books are all fallible as an alternative answer.

~ There seems not a page of the Christian Bible that is not flawed or its prophecies misconstrued by the very dilemma for its existence that the original couple have committed an egregious sin for which all men must overcome to seek redemption. The scribes of the bible suffer the same affliction and only over time through an evolutionary process can the believers of God find the solution that God demands for the admittance to the Garden of Eden that is the religion of the Bible.

~ History has proven the Christian bible along with the other religions to be incomplete (as today we are no closer or even further away from admittance as the day of expulsion) and it is the motivation of the believers of God to find the proper answers and complete the books correctly. Science is one avenue for this accomplishment as well as simply reading the Garden that is the creation of God as the guiding lite.

~ The Edenist do not believe the renderings of Jesus Christ within the text of the Christian bible as any way an accurate description of Gods intent nor that the crucifixion was a preordained event.

~ The believers of God must enhance the existing writings by removing the pretenses of the Christians and find the real truths yet to be found.

~ We seek amending written texts in search of the real truths as the early writings are divinely inspired but misinterpreted.

 

Who says we even need ancient texts. People weren't as smart back then and didn't have much knowledge about the world or anything. They created these stories because of the lack of understanding. Scientifically the Genesis story doesn't work with our world and has been pretty much disproven... people will always try to twist the words of the bible or whatever to make it work with reality but for the most part it doesn't.

 

Then I have to do something to make them right. But I don’t think so my beliefs are wrong. Thanks for the question anyway.

 

I did answer the question. Its actually a basis for leadership. Ability to make quick decisions with the information on hand. Science is getting better, but a thousand years form now, when we are all dead, mankind still probably know less than 1/10000000 of a percent of what there is to know.

Does science tell you its wrong to kill someone? There are certain things we just make up, and they are accepted as "moral truths" whether you are religious or not.

 

I do agree with you on that and morals are subjective so I don't know if we would call them truths... what could be moral to me or you is probably not to a Hindu for example.

 

If I will believe that, my beliefs were wrong, then I would search the truth

 

That's a great answer ziya. Have you ever challenged your own beliefs? From what I understand is that if a God does exist, the gift of reason is the most important thing so we have to challenge all that we believe to strengthen our own understanding of the universe.

Here is a great saying from Galileo Galilei:

“I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.”

 

i will search for the truth to save my self as fast as posible

 

As long as you are comfortable with your beliefs and your beliefs don’t harm anybody, then I think you should go for it.

 

Well, in my case it is the other side of it, namely, I will reach the "heaven or hell" interchange and then I will meet god for the 1st time, whereas many others "met" him on daily basis.

When he will tell me : CHAOS!, what the hell have you done?

I will answer: listen, bro. It's all your fucking fault. I really tried to look for your existence and I just couldn't find a framework in which such an existence will be self-consistent and make sense even on a theoretical level, before I even go to look for evidence that will corroborate such a theoretical framework. Now don't say you really expected me to listen to people who can't tell the difference between complete opposites, which sadly are the kind of people who are your typical followers. Moreover, countless researches show that the likelihood to be your follower drops sharply with increasing level of formal education: going from 75% among those who didn't graduate from high school to 5% among university professors, as an interesting recent "scientific american" paper who questioned over 5000 Americans showed.
So if you expected me to know of your existence, why didn't you create me or affect me to believe in you in first place? you have the power to do so, no? why were you playing infantile games with me? u're so full of shit. So you're the only one who is to blame, dude.

This is on my side. I think that god is a reasonable creature and will not be so mad. After all, he crea

Now lets look on the other side, when somebody who lived according to a belief system dies. Unlike my case, there is no god to speak to his senses and nothing to be say. In this case one will look like the most ultimate idiot on earth.

 

Haha Chaos. Let me play devils advocate a bit.

Here is an analogy that might work for your "theoretical framework". A child has an ant farm The ants go busily about their work every day without knowing that, occasionally, the master of their universe is looking in on them. Now and again, the child moves the ant farm over near the window and gets out his magnifying glass, and fries several ants at a time. One day, a few years later, the child decides his ant farm is boring, and that he want's a gerbil. His mom takes the ant farm out into the back yard, empties its contents into the dirt, and sprays the entire thing with RAID. Just one theoretical framework, one ant to another. Of course none of this justifies the ants pulling together to worship the child, as if it would make a difference in their fate. Unrelated, but relevant, I can see where going to church does something good for the people who go, if nothing for the omnipresent force who may or may not be there.

True, but those statistics are skewed. The US Census will tell you that the higher education level you have the more likely you are to earn a higher income. Pretty much every polling organization will tell you the more money you make, the more likely you are to vote Republican (be a conservative). In 2005, those making over 92k a year voted Republican 38% to 27% who voted Democrat. Those who make under $19k a year vote Democrat 40% to 20%. So more education= more money = more likely to vote conservative. At the same time, College professors in the top ten schools, by their own declaration, are 87% Democrat to 13% Republican.

In other words, I buy into the idea that the higher your education, at least in the US, the less likely you are to be religious, but basing religiosity, or anything else for that matter, based on what college professors do is a mistake IMNHO. They make a better example of what NOT to do, after all, those who can't do, teach. Let me apologize in advance for the insult, if it turns out you work in academia.

Now that is funny, and probably amongst the best reasons I've heard to not get involved with religion.

See my ant farm analogy. I suspect if there is a god, he is a fickle and mean spirited creature.

@Genuine Marketer: Without moral truths, life would be chaos. The idea that killing children is wrong is what separates the citizens from the psychopaths. It has nothing to do with science yet, if we as a society, suddenly drank the blood of our young, we would cease to exist. Interesting also, that with sexual "immorality" comes life ending diseases. Did the morality come from witch doctors in ancient times associating death by STD as god's punishment? Perhaps, though I doubt they had the scientific skills to statistically relate the two.

 

But here, I kinda cheated....just a little bit....
Maybe, we are indeed "created" to believe in god and only a selected few manage to resist this natural urge but this is controversial.

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=12345514&postcount=38

 

~ Science relies on a progression of text while reaching new goals, why not religion...the more finely crafted arrowheads are the oldest and would imagine the earliest religions to be the same.