ArticleRanks Review - Awesome 1-Way Linking System!

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by allthegoodnamesweretaken, Jul 19, 2009.

  1. stevewar

    stevewar Peon

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    #221
    I have read every single post in this thread, and no offense to the regulars here, I haven't seen a single shred of useful analysis to prove whether or not AR does anything to improve SERP ranking.

    That said, I would love to see somebody use say the digitalpoint backlink tracking tool to compare AR, SYA, UAW in terms of backlinks received and that google actually recognizes.

    It would also be a useful experiment to create several pages on the same topic and see which has the greatest effect on the SERP ranking for each page.

    I just started using SYA, so I can do a split between AR and SYA. Obviously it's going to take some time to see the actual improvements, but I will track backlinks using the DigitalPoint tool, as well as track SERP ranking for the main keyword phrase.
     
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  2. Zibblu

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    #222
    1. It's quite difficult to assess how effective a single method is as far as SERPS is concerned because you have to use that one method in isolation. I have done some testing like this but it's still difficult to know how accurate the results are because there are a lot of different variables to consider.

    When you say you should "create several different pages" - You have to consider what domains those pages are on. In order to test "apples vs apples" they really need to be on the same domain. And even then you haven't pushed out all of the other variables because the content on the pages is going to be different and that may effect the rankings.

    I do know that article distribution services are effective for SERPS because I use them (in particular Unique Article Wizard, Article Marketing Automation, & Article Ranks) as my main method of building links.

    2. I've done exactly the kind of back link testing you're talking about (for example: Article Test #3) --- I'm early in the results of my latest test but so far ArticleRanks is in second place (after UAW) ahead of Free Traffic System & Article Marketing Automation among others.

    3. I stopped using SYA because it performed so poorly in my tests, I'd be curious to see your results.
     
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  3. stevewar

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    #223

    1. I really appreciate you taking the time to reply, but have some points of disagreement. It's actually quite easy to test the effectiveness in the serps using super unique long tail keyword phrases. There is an SEO term for it that escapes me right now, but Brad Fallon of stompernet has been doing this with the phrease "the coolest guy in the world" for ages. The results don't have to be "apples to apples," as of course the on page factors matter, but any SEO with their salt can make the two pages "close enough" to test teh effectivess of AR vs. SYA vs. iSnare vs. UAW

    2. For my purposes, the number off backlinks generated by each service is not the data most pertinent to SEO. Rather, the effectiveness of the backlinks on my SERP rankings is what I would focus on in my test

    3. I'll be happy to let you know how well SYA works. I started using them recently as they have gone to an unlimted submissions per month membership, similiar to UAW.
     
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  4. Zibblu

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    #224
    1. The domain of the landing page is extremely important in whether or not a page ranks well. Some domains are pretty much impossible to rank well and others are very easy. You can't really accurately say one back link building method or another is better unless you are testing head to head on the same domain. I've done some of that kind of testing by the way and UAW came out on top most often... but Article Marketing Automation and ArticleRanks both did well too.

    2. I agree, SERPS are what matters of course. The only reason I do a lot of back link tests is that they are easy to do in comparison with SERPS testing.

    3. Interesting about SYA being unlimited now - have they added spinning too?
     
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  5. stevewar

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    #225
    Agreed the test would have to be done on the same domain..

    SYA does indeed support spinning now, in the form of "Article Leverage." You have the ability to spin titles, intros, individual sentences, paragraphs (which is my preference), and some other options as well. Once you have written your "spins", article leverage will create multiple versions of your article.

    I think the main difference between SYA and UAW is the ability of UAW to have multiple pen names. I haven't seen that in SYA, but since I'm only doing SEO for my primary website, that's not a limitation that effects me
     
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  6. Zibblu

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    #226
    I've decided to start up a new SERPS test which will compare Article Ranks with a couple of other systems I use. I'm going to attempt to make it as "scientific" as possible so all of the landers will be on the same domain (EZA) and the titles will all be very similar, I'll try to keep the keyword density similar too, to try to make on page factors as small as possible.

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    Stevewar: now that you mention it - I do remember using Article Leverage. I forgot about that - it's been awhile. If I remember correctly though - that's a whole different way of going about it then the type of spinning I do with all of my other article submission services (which are similar enough that I can use Magic Article Rewriter for all of them.)
     
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    #227
    Great information, I am sick and tired of ezinearticles.com, too many rules and takes forever to accept the articles.
     
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    #228
    Now there's a test I'm going to love following. I will do the same for AR and SYA

    Can you tell me more about this article rewriter?
     
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  9. Zibblu

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    #229
    Basically it (Magic Article Rewriter) lets you write and spin an article within this one program and then export it into the different formats the different article submission services use.

    This lets me do the whole writing/spinning process just once and then export it via all of my different services.

    It also keeps track of the word count and the spun % (I usually spin until I reach 20% or higher.) This is helpful.

    Beyond that it has a variety of ways of speeding up the spinning process (tokens and magic tokens... which are a bit more than I want to go into, I don't always use them... but they can speed things up if you know how to use 'em.)
     
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    #230
    Just tried article slingshot and on its sales blurb it says you can test drive the system for free. So I created an account and when I tried to submit an article it wouldn't let me because I hadn't purchased credits! Also, the list of niches you can submit to is rubbish. The whole thing just looks like a waste of money to me and the free test drive claim is false.

    What a waste of 20 minutes :rolleyes:
     
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    #231
    Well you are unbelievably wrong. I've gotten more backlinks from Article Slingshot than any other service so far. Although I must admit that I just started my Unique Article Wizard account, so that one might be better. But right now I get thousands of backlinks a month for every article I put out via Article Slingshot.
     
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    #232
    Well, they don't offer a free test drive as they claim - FACT
    Their list of niches is rather limited - FACT

    I'll stick to AR for now - next on my list is UAW. I just don't appreciate being misled by false claims.

    If anyone tests Article Slingshot and has proven results in the SERPs I'd be interested to hear about it but at the moment I find the system a bit frustrating.
     
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  13. greggh

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    #233
    I use AR too. In face I use AR, Article Slingshot. UAW, and iSnare. I will PM you proof about Article Slingshot though.
     
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    #234
    I find this very hard to believe. Thousands of backlinks for every article? How?

    I joined Article Slingshot last month and I've submitted 9 articles thus far and I haven't been very impressed.

    First of all, it's all duplicate content (no spinning) - and Google seems to be filtering out most of the results (in my research.)

    And since none of the categories have anywhere near 1000 domains, I just don't even see how it's possible that you would get so many links back.

    In my test of this service (I added it as an 8th competitor - check the comments) the page I linked to isn't even indexed by Google yet and not a single link is showing up in Yahoo! Site Explorer.
     
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  15. greggh

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    #235

    You can not believe it all you want. I've got 28 articles out on it in 2 months. The sites I am targeting using this and only a couple other things are up just over 5000 backlinks in the last month alone. A few thousand of those links are from this. Thats across all of the articles I have up there so far, not just 1. But for the price I pay its well worth it. I dont use yahoo to count this crap I use google webmaster tools to judge, these do show up.
     
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    #236
    must try, thanksss
     
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    #237
    Important point here: "a few thousand for 28 articles" (3000 divided by 28 = about 100) is a lot more believable than "thousands... for every article" which is what you initially said.

    I'm not convinced that those links are really worth much (even if they do show up in Google Webmaster Tools) because they're on not so great sites and they're all duplicate content.

    But we'll see. I'd love to be proven wrong - I'll keep testing it.

    (to be clear - we're talking about Article Slingshot)
     
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    #238
    I am by no means any kind of expert here. I am just lucky to have a boss willing to get me all the expensive tools and pay for the sites I suggest. You'll notice I've only been around here for a couple months. But from what I can tell of the AS system it seems to work for me. I am working every angle possible though. So its exact value is hard to judge. But I know most of the links I see in the webmaster tools came from that and not the other services. As you've said, who knows whats that worth...
     
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    #239
    I'm doing a second SERPS test - this time I'm including Article Slingshot. I'm also including Article Ranks again - as that's the focus of this thread - and it's a good idea (I think) when doing multiple tests like this to have one constant to help compare between them.
     
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    #240
    wooooowWW....this is very good for any article writers who look for traffic and ranks
     
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