Why is my site is de-indexed? $300 bounty.

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by eastes, Nov 30, 2009.

  1. incomesinternational.com

    incomesinternational.com Peon

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    #21
    Good points but as this section of the guidelines points out, it will only occur if the dupe content appears to game the system.

    I agree about the number of sites that do get away with selling links but who knows, maybe someone sent in a spam request, or something sent up a flag for a human review. It's hard to say with any certainty.

    If you want link partners change that text to reflect it. But as it stands it comes off as though you want to sell links.

    As far as the 301 goes, the explanation is true of how a 301 works but it doesn't delist it just redirects. Take a look at one of my domains that I don't use for anything right now but has a 301 on it back to my marketing blog. In fact looking at it today it looks as though someone else has been 301'ing their own content because some of it isn't mine.

    site:executivehomelifestyle.com

    This has a 301 to my marketing blog, incomesinternational.com. As you will see all the pages are still indexed with the original URL but are being forwarded to the destination domain even though the original domain name appears in the SERP.

    I still say its because it looks as though you intend on selling links. This is like walking into a court room and saying "hey judge, want to buy some crack, I'm not selling it but I'll trade you for something". And of course the judge will have the bailiff arrest you and lock you up. Kind of a stupid analogy but I think you get my point.


    So when do I get my money?
     
  2. eastes

    eastes Peon

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    #22
    Thanks for the help so far!

    I've established that it is not dupe content related. The dupe content only turned on in the last few days.

    If the problem is the link message at the bottom. Cash will be sent to the first person who mentioned it.
     
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    eastes Peon

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    #23
    Another claim via PM has been made that it is the <link rel="canonical" href="http://captaincompare.com.au" />

    Is there any potential that this could be the problem?
     
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    liror Active Member

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    #24
    when did u removed the 301 ?
     
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    incomesinternational.com Peon

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    #25
    Well I don't really see how, and in all honesty, I don't see a spelling mistake in there. I looked at your source (and just in case I'm getting to old) I copied the uel from the source and it resolved to your site. So I'm not convinced the canonical is the problem. Of course you may have fixed the spelling between the time the issue was raised and the time that viewed it. However this is no reason for a site to be completely deindexed. At worst all your content would be in the supplemental index but not removed.

    Google reserves bans like this one for direct breaches of the guidelines not for simple mistakes.
     
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    #26
    Yep that would be me :D
     
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    liror Active Member

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    #27
    hehe:)

    good luck with that
     
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  8. Canonical

    Canonical Well-Known Member

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    #28
    WRONG! Yes 301 means permanent redirect. But permanent in the search engines eyes does NOT mean, "you cannot take it back". Permanent means, "I plan on leaving it this way for a while so its worth the trouble of transfering credit for all inbound links to the old URL over to my new URL. And for Google at least, they can remove the old URL from their index."

    You CAN take it back. If URL A is 301 redirected to URL B then once all inbound links to URL A have been recrawled and the 301 discovered for each inbound link, URL B will be credited with the inbound link (and at Google URL A will be removed from the index).

    If you then remove the 301 redirect from URL A, once the search engines recrawl all inbound links to URL A again, URL A will get credit for the inbound links and URL B will lose credit for the old links to URL A. And URL A should return to their index.

    A 302 redirect is a temporary redirect. It says to the search engines, "I'm only redirecting this URL temporarily. I plan to eventually remove it so do NOT go through all the trouble of transfering credit for inbound links to the old URL over to the new tempoary URL. And in Googles, case do NOT remove the old URL from the index. Simply index the content of the page found at the new URL and associate it with the old URL in the index."

    Unless you ONLY had 1 page indexed and you misspelled the link in the <link rel="canonical"> element then it's not likely it has anything to do with your problem. And <link rel="canonical"> is only valid from URL canonicalization within a given domain. So misspelling the domain in the href would simply cause the engines to ignore your <link rel="canonical">.

    Duplicate content should have nothing to do with the site being deindexed. If someone reported you for selling links and there was evidence on the site that you sell links, you could have been penalized. I doubt if they would have banned such a small site for a first time offense like that. A penalty is more likely in such a situation.

    I'm still not clear on the history of what was 301'd to where, when the 301s were in place, and when they were removed. If we had a detailed list of events, dates, changes, etc. we might be able to provide you more assistance.

    In the meantime, check Google's WMT and see if there are any messages from Google. If you see a message that you've been penalized/banned then remove all traces of selling links from your site. If you have paid links on your site remove them. Then submit a request for reconsideration. Explain that you were not aware that it was a violation to get paid for followed advertising links. Tell them what all you've done on the site to bring it into compliance.
     
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    #29
    We usually agree in the threads that we both end up posting in as is the case here so I'm wondering why you think the 301 could be the culprit - I just don't see any valid reason why or how a 301 mishap would get the entire site removed.
     
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    #30
    thanks for the info...
     
    davyj, Jul 30, 2010 IP