Im in the green baby... for the most part I dont owe anyone anything as i dont get into debts i cant get out off nor do i bare any children i cannot afford to feed and clothe My home has been paid off for a few years now and my 2004 expedition the same.... My parents... not sure but im sure they havent finished paying of there new car yet so i would assume $15-20 grand laterz Malcolm
We was talking about AU kidnapping kids and then you saying they need to "get over it", as if leaving a gang was comparable. That's the main point. However since you bring up kidnapped Palestinians kids, sure. Israel is doing that too 6200 Kidnapped since 2000. You can't complain about democratically elected governments, when you wanted democracy - If you want your choice in power that's dictatorship. Many countries recognize them as the official government, just because the USA don't like them that doesn't mean anything, in fact I'm sure the people of Palestine are bothered about USA opinion when it's American bombs falling on their houses and kids.
Ahh, no need to read further. Thanks for putting out credible information (as usual) I'm not complaining, you are. Hitler was elected as well. Just because a party or person is Democratically elected doesn't mean the rest of the world has to live with them. If Hitler, Hamas, and Hugo Chavez, all Democratically elected, could keep their massive fecal output in their own wasteland, the rest of the world would have no need to go dropping bombs on them.
Your right George W Bush, was too Did you mention Hitler thinking this: "Many of us believe that wrongs aren't wrong if it's done by nice people like ourselves." But child kidnap is not comparable to leaving a gang surely your not that daft.
A funny but true quotation: "I'm from the only place democracy is acceptable, Is if America candidate is electable. And they might even have a black president, but he's useless, because he does not control the economy stupid"
Jesus you guys are scattered. Focus people. I point out Hamas, an internationally recognized terror organization is in power in Palestine, making the regime illegitimate. Whether it is the bombings inside of Israel, or the launching of rockets into Israel, their acts of war legitimize Israel's actions all the way to the point of regime change, which will be required if this conflict is to end. I wont comment on Bush's comparison to Hitler or Hamas because that is just idiotic, and only the lunatic fringe(you) find any validity in those comments. The comparison of Karzai to Hamas is nearly as ridiculous. Currently, nobody is alleging anything more than corruption, which is a valid charge in many if not most Democratic elections around the planet, and certainly valid in almost every other form of government. What would you have the US do about the Afghan election? Force another election, and create the next candidate, or reelect until the Taliban wins? You would complain about any other outcome, so why not accept the existing outcome? The country and election process is corrupt, and would be so even if the Taliban were to have won.
What's the difference between a terrorist organization and one that carries out war crimes at Americas expense? Little difference if any
Thank you for acknowledging Hamas is a terrorist organization. We are making progress. Now the part you need to grasp is that when you elect a terrorist organization as your leaders, and they commit acts of war against neighboring countries, you, as a country pay the price for their actions, such as an ongoing war with civilian casualties. I'm not sure why you have such a hard time grasping this concept.
Your so selective in your thinking. Israeli ethnic cleansing started first, then they got rockets/terror. It's called retaliation. Israeli war criminals were elected long before Hamas You try to portray it started with rockets, your not that dumb you just act it.
Two things. One, on who acted first, you need to re-read your history of the region, starting with the formation of Israel and you will see who acted first. Second, you are missing the difference between having elected an internationally recognized terror organization (Hamas) and having a valid internationally recognized government that does some questionable things (Israel). This is the more important point because, as long as you continue to have terrorists as your international representation, you will never get the respect you so desperately desire. Period.
That is precisely why I stopped supporting Israel. I used to be just like you, you need to check your news sources to get a real picture of what's going on that involves switching propaganda off, that's nearly all USA MSM
The MSM is one source amongst many. I do see whats going on, and while it is a shame, people like you don't seem to be happy with any real solutions to the problem that don't include the elimination of Israel. Therein lies your problem.
That's the trouble with neo-cons that think only one way. The solution is to force Israeli into being reasonable, to stop stealing land and to move toward a 2 state solution, it's really that simple. So far there has been no real efforts just gestures, by the USA etc The reason the USA can't broker any proper lasting peace is that they are not neutral, it's that simple. Basically you have a USA willing to cover up for them (ie war crimes) and the Israeli's know this, why should they listen to their dumb big brother? It's funny you make falsehoods like I want the elimination of Israel, when it's you that supporting killing all Palestinians.
No, its almost that simple. Huge strides were made in that direction, until the Palestinians elected Hamas to power. The trick is not just to get the Israeli's to be reasonable and stop stealing land, but also to get the Palestinians to be reasonable and stop committing acts of terror and launching rockets. You act like Hamas, at some point, acknowledged Israel's right to exist. Have they? HAVE THEY? Two points: 1) You support the Palestinians in their current governmental format who are lead by Hamas who desire the elimination of Israel. Reconcile that for me so I don't have to lump you in with them. 2) While the USA has and will continue to make efforts to end the conflict between our ally Israel and Palestine, at the end of the day it is not our responsibility. Palestine, being one of the two actual parties to the conflict bears this burden every bit as much as Israel does. Please don't respond to this post unless you are willing to state clearly Hamas' position on Israel's right to exist in nice bold print.