That's exactly what he should be focusing his energy on because that's the real story. ACORN has never been associated with a single fake vote. Ever. The entire "story" about ACORN has been drummed up by the right wing to create a sense of illegitimacy about Obama's Presidency despite the fact that Obama won the election by nearly 10 million votes nationally. Anyone with any logical thinking ability who looks into the ACORN story can see through what the right wing is doing. ACORN registers mostly poor black people to vote. Of course Republicans don't like that because those people vote for Democrats by and large. Of course the Republicans can't come out and say they're against poor black people voting so they come up with these ridiculous attacks on the organization instead. Lame. Anyone who falls for this is an imbecile.
Who wooda' thunkit? See what happens when you look at facts rather than propoganda? Of course, all those Carter jobs must have been the result of the Ford administration, which would mean he was the best in recent history
Nobody wooda thunkit because its complete crap. http://uspolitics.about.com/od/polls/l/bl_historical_approval.htm The guy was ran out of office in one term with an approval rating tying George W. Bush, though even Bush managed to win reelection. Only Richard Nixon had a lower end of term approval rating. Double digit unemployment, double digit mortgage interest, massive spending, and monetized debt are his legacy in no uncertain terms. FYI, bullshit statistics like yours ARE propaganda. Sorry for the rant. Feel free to return to smoking whatever it was you were smoking before I arrived.
As is the hero worship of Ronald Raygun. Thing is, for Raygun there aren't even any statistics to back up the claims of his worshipers. Mia tried. Raygun's biggest legacy is that today even red democrats sit to the right of where most Republicans were in 1979. It is mainly because of Raygun that I can say that I used to be a moderate conservative, and even though my views have little changed in nearly 40 years I am now considered a flaming liberal. I seriously doubt that history will treat Raygun well. He will be seen as the man who sowed the seeds of many of today's major problems, including our current depression, are slide to National bankruptcy, our divided populace and illegal immigration from the impoverished countries of Latin America - all of which he accomplished BEFORE slipping into the dementia of Alzhiemers. Inquiring minds are already coming to this conclusion about the man.
You've clearly mistaken me for someone else. I simply set your nonsense statements about Carter straight, and said nothing at all about Reagan. Your opinion, and you are welcome to it. I suppose I don't have to repost the polls that show your opinion goes against majority opinion. Its funny because I read your posts which are clearly left wing Ideologue gibberish and you try and call yourself a conservative, or even an ex-conservative. The only reason people trot out Reagan and bad mouth him is to try and bring the Republicans down a notch on someone who represented their ideals. You should at least be honest with yourself about the role you play in this little game.
More like first worst, though he's pretty close to losing that with Obama at the helm. This is what happens when people read rewritten history. Some of us actually lived it. Anyone here have a 14% mortgage on their house? Anyone remember gas going from pennies a gallon to over a buck? In fact the price of gas rose over 60% in 1979 alone. Anyone remember car prices that increased 72%. Anyone remember the price of a new home went up 67%. Anyone remember what the inflation rate did under Carter? It went from 6.8% in 1977 then to 7.6% in 1978 then to 11.5% in 1979 then to 12.4% in 1980. It nearly doubled under Carter. Willyboy some of us remember it. To his credit, Carter did set a nice record. By the end of his term the prime rate was 21.5% Talk to people that remember, not what you read.
Let's see... 1. Mia claims Raygun's job creation record was good. 2. I provide data supporting that Raygun's creation record was one of the worst of recent Presidents 3. Obamanation uses the data I provide to conclude that "Carter was our second best president in recent history!" 4. Assuming that Obamanation was jesting, I played along 5. Mia finds yet another opportunity for dismissive insulting comments. Mia, as a member of the High School class of '89 I can only assume that you are parroting what your parents complained about when you were growing up, since even if you failed a few grades you wouldn't have been much over 10 years old when Carter left office. Perhaps it was spending so many of your formative years under the Raygun presidency that has so warped your view of the world. That really was the decade that established the "What's in it for me?" culture that has so harmed this nation. I had the pleasure of experiencing Raygun as both Governor of California, and the as President. The experience did not improve with age...
"Crisis of Confidence" eg the "Malaise Speech" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IlRVy7oZ58 Written by a young Chris Mathews ironically, now a loud mouth inept blowhard on MSNBC "I feel your pain America". "look I'm wearing a sweater and turning down the heat at the White House". Nice....
Interesting you didn't use the word "displeasure" in place of "pleasure". From the sound of it you may be so old, senility has set in. Are you sure you don't remember sitting in gas lines? My family used to drive across the border into Mexico to get gas, now that is RIDICULOUS. Pointing out that Mia may be a bit on the young side to feel the full impact of Carter policies does not change the validity of his quoted statistics. Why try and re-invent the man? His presidency was so bad, Reagan got re-elected even with the early 80s recession. That is something it appears Obama may not even able to accomplish in the wake of George W. Bush. His presidency was so bad, the Democrats helped throw him out of office. His presidency was so bad, Americans were sneaking across the border into Mexico. His presidency was so bad, Palestinians were raising money to send the USA as humanitarian aide. His presidency so bad.... I'll leave it there.
Damn, that is just uncomfortable to watch. Saturday night live could have crucified that one with very few changes. Perhaps they were less political then, or perhaps its not good to turn on family, although the SNL skit of Obama and the Chinese President was pretty stinging. "Do I look like Mrs. Obama?"
Everyone here is old enough to feel the full impact of his policies? I am old enough to have experienced where that impact started... The full impact was and is being felt by all now as a result of the housing crisis. CRA ring a bell? Its more than uncomfortable. It was a blunder even at the time when it was widely criticized as being a “huge depressantâ€. What Americans and America needed at that time was a up beat feel good speech, not what Mathews and Carter delivered. Ironically Obamanation, just 3 short days after this speech Carter asked for the resignations of all of his Cabinet members. Then he lowered the thermostats at the White House, and called on Congress and every other Federal government building to set theirs at 65 in the winter and 78 in the summer. This was of course purely symbolic, but was Carter's way of trying to say he was suffering with us. HE WAS and STILL IS a MISERABLE excuse for a leader. I'm even beginning to question whether he's even worthy of being recognized for his humanitarian efforts when so many of his policies ushered in the suffering for which he seeks to calm. Carter is and was an inept moron. Arguably the worst president our country has seen in modern times, perhaps all of our history.
This is really a key point. This country has moved so far to the right over the last 30 years that what the mainstream media calls the "middle" is really a very conservative position. Consider the new "GOP Purity Test" that Reagan himself would have failed. Consider that the health care reform being offered up now by the Democratic party is to the right of the plan offered up by Republican President Richard Nixon in 1974 (which unfortunately the Democrats of the time didn't compromise on and go along with.) A "public option" is not a liberal idea. It's a moderate compromise position. A liberal idea is "medicare for all" (and yes, that's what I believe we should do.) --- I think it's become clear that this move to the right over the past 30 years has not been good for this country. But right wing interests have a stranglehold on our country and it's very difficult to break free from them because of the way the Senate is set up (60 votes to get anything done?) and the fact that so many Democrats of today would have been Republicans in the past.
Ah, sorry but I think you might not know your left from your right. Its the other way around. "so far to the left". Easy mistake...
Perhaps on social issues (as far as people's opinions, not necessarily the laws...) but not on economic issues, not on issues of foreign policy. Can you give any proof? Any facts? I notice you never back up any of your claims with any facts.
Yes, he is obviously a right winger, he should provide facts. You and I, on the other hand, have no such obligation. If you say the country has shifted right, people should just take it at face value! In your earlier posts, you were explaining how the country is shifting left, and again, people should just accept that! On health care, obviously the country has shifted way to the right, like you said, because we have had socialized health care for all since 1776 and now these crazy right wing loons want to get rid of it! Who knew the right were such champions of change (progressives)? You can see the right pushing us for bigger and bigger government, and getting it at every step! Medicare Social Security Welfare On Foreign policy, didn't the right bring us Viet Nam? I know they didnt bring us the end of the Berlin wall, or the removal of communism in Central America. Really it is the left that is for smaller government, like when Bill Clinton signed the exemption for credit default swaps to be unregulated! Yes, the right has royally screwed up this nation, and its time for that to end! We need CHANGE and we need it now! We need to END the privatization of health care, and any other business for that matter that doesn't equally distribute the wealth. Our founding fathers envisioned a big government that people worked for, and that provided for the people. How have we drifted so far right?
*sigh* You're impossible, I don't know why I bother. You just have no interest in having a rational discussion based on facts. I guess I can understand that since there are no facts to back up your point of view. I mentioned two specific points that back up my claim that the country has moved significantly to the right over the last 30 years: 1. Ronald Reagan would fail GOP's new "purity test." In other words, Ronald Reagan is too liberal for today's Republican party. 2. The health care reform that Richard Nixon proposed in 1974 is to the left of what the Senate is considering today.
And here I thought this thread was about Raygun. I guess it is far easier to shft the topic to Carter since the myth of Raygun is, in the end, indefensible. BTW, those gas lines you refer to were under Nixon's administration (1973). The 1979 "crisis" was caused by - are you ready for this - deregulation of oil prices - regulations put in place by Nixon. Carter began dismantling the regulations in phases, a process that was completed by his successor to the White House. As far as my views of Carter, he is far from the worst President we have had (even in recent history) but he certainly was ill prepared and poorly tempered to deal with the events that took place during his term