For religious people who do not believe that God is omnipotent

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by it career, Nov 23, 2009.

  1. #1
    When you pray with top of your voice to God , how does it reach him , if he is sitting far away in heaven ?
    I think the prayer does not reach more than 1 mile.
     
    it career, Nov 23, 2009 IP
  2. prophet666

    prophet666 Peon

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    one has to understand the nature of god,everything is part of the whole,when you hurt someone,by default you are hurting yourself,likewise when you help someone you are helping yourself,the nature of god is non dualism.
     
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  3. it career

    it career Notable Member

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    You did not answer my question, is he omnipotent or he is staying at heaven ?
     
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    Roman Buffalo Tamer™

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    I think he's up in his room with a 'do not disturb' sign on the door.
     
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    prophet666 Peon

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    non dualism means omnipotent
     
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    ziya Well-Known Member

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    maybe you think of God like he is a man, and the existence of God should be like his existence, meaning, God should have a defined location, and God should occupy a place for him.

    God existence is different than human existence, because God existed before the space, we occupy, before the time we use, and before the whole universe, God is not a part of universe, so you can't compare God to anything in universe, by giving him an image from this universe

    So I guess you can not tell that , God is sitting far away from us.
     
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  7. Nehemiah

    Nehemiah Peon

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    Why "pray with top of your voice to God", if HE'S really GOD? Is the the god that "pray with top of your voice to", hard of hearing??? Must not be much of a god if that's the case, huh??? Sounds kinda like "the prophets of Baal" versus Elijah on Mt. Carmel to me.
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    Exactly, God can just read my mind if God wants to know what I am thinking or praying about. All these fools praying to a lazy God.
     
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    No, actually, the only "fools", are the "lazy" ones who choose not to communicate with their CREATOR GOD, on HIS TERMS.

    It is written, "Enoch walked with GOD; and he was not, for GOD took him."
     
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    it career Notable Member

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    Best guess so far I would say. :D
     
    it career, Nov 24, 2009 IP
  11. Polite teen

    Polite teen Guest

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    Bismillahi Arrahmani Arraheem

    Ta Ha (1)
    Ma anzalna alyka alqur'ana litashqa (2)
    illa tathkiratan liman yaksha (3)
    tanzeelan mimman khalaqa al'arda wassamawatil ula (4)
    Arrahmanu ala al-arshi istawa (5)
    lahu ma fissamawati wal ardi wama bynahuma wama tahta ath-thara (6)
    wa in tajhar bilquowli, fa innahu yalamu assirra wa akhfa (7)
    Allahu la ilaha illa houwa, lahu al-Asma'u lhusna. (8)


    which means:

    In the name of God, the Beneficent, the Merciful

    Ta - Ha. (1) We have not sent down the Qur'ân unto you (O Muhammad) to cause you distress, (2)
    But only as a Reminder to those who fear (God). (3)
    A revelation from the One Who has created the earth and high heavens. (4)
    The Most Gracious rose over the Throne. (5)
    To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on the earth, and all that is between them, and all that is under the soil. (6)
    And if you (O Muhammad) speak aloud, then verily, He knows the secret and that which is yet more hidden. (7)
    God! there is no god but He! To Him belong the Best Names (8)


    Prophet Mohammad, peace be upon him was asked: Is our lord far, so we will raise our vioce to the top in prayer, or near, so we pray secretly. Then God revealed what means in english:

    And when My slaves ask you (O Muhammad) concerning Me, then (answer them), I am indeed near. I respond to the invocations of the supplicant when he calls on Me. So let them obey Me and believe in Me, so that they may be led aright. (186)


    Finally:
    There is nothing like Him, and He is the All-Hearer, the All-Seer. (11)
     
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  12. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    I think people that talk to imaginary people may have mental disorders or problems letting go of imaginary friends. I at least transferred it to my pets that I speak to, although I don't ask them to do anything but eat crickets and molt.

    Except the remaining dog of course.
     
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  13. Nehemiah

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    And I'm certain that your Jack Russell (I've got [gave it to my youngest daughter] one myself) VERBALLY thanked you for that, right? They are one SMART dogs, yeah?
     
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    Yea they are smart, they bark, at least they can do something unlike impotent "gods".:rolleyes:
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    Nehemiah - Jack Russells are smart dogs.:) Your post made me think of Tillamook Cheddar. Tillie is an artist (and a Jack Russell Terrier) that likes to create paintings, and has had many art exhibits. You can see some of her paintings here.
     
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    I do not have a Jack Russel. If you noticed the picture, and the numbers, you would see that my pitbull passed away.
     
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    He knows! he said he brought one.

    Or was he busy reading his book and brought a camel?


    :D
     
    Toopac, Nov 25, 2009 IP