Republican Doug Hoffman Recount Winner in NY-23 (Suprise, Suprise ...)

Nancy Pelosi certified Democrat Bill Owens illegally -- the vote count in NY 23 is not over. And not only that, the New York has yet to certify the election.

The Syracuse Post that Republican Doug Hoffman is winning a recount of NY-23.

The district’s second biggest voter turnout was in Jefferson County, where Hoffman also has benefited from a turnaround since election night, gaining about 700 votes. Owens led Hoffman by 300 votes on the final election night tally. But after recanvassing, Hoffman now leads by 424 votes, 10,884 to 10,460.

There are still 10,200 absentee ballots to be counted from military and overseas ballots. NY-23 is the home of the 10th Mountain Division and Hoffman is sure to pick-up considerable votes from the military voters.


http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2009/11/its_not_over_recanvassing_shows_ny23_race.html

 

He didn't want it bad enough. He should have hired an organization like Acorn(Do the republicans have an equivalent?) to generate thousands of fraudulent votes for himself. He should have fought the certified results all the way to the supreme court in the face of the health care vote, like Al Gore. Failure to do both of those things tells us he has no moral fiber.

Besides all that, Scozzafava's selection as the Republican candidate for the 23rd should have been clear enough of a message that the 65% Republican district is looking for a pro-union, pro-gay marriage candidate.

On a side note, have you seen Scozzafava is now trying to take up the mantle of "Protector of the moderate Republicans"? She wants to make sure that the large number of Labor Union/gay marriage/abortion/govt bailout/socialized health care loving Republicans have their voices heard in the party. Only then can the Republicans be truly distinguished from the Democrats. These so called "Conservatives" with their smaller govt, fiscal responsibility, and free market values have seen their day, and she knows it.

 

You're living in a fantasy land. Hoffman is not winning any recount. You copied and pasted the results from one voting district, not the overall vote where Owens still leads by quite a bit (it's hard to find from that obviously biased article, but it looks like Owens is up by 3000 votes.)

This lack of reading comprehension says a lot. When folks don't care about what the facts are, but only what they want them to be, it impedes their ability to think rationally.

 

The facts should be decided by counting the votes properly and having the results certified by the New York State Election Board.

Nancy Pelosi staged a coup and seated Owens.

 

Delusional much? Hoffman conceded. Even with this recount he's down by 3000 votes, there's no way in hell he's going to catch up 3000 votes with absentee ballots.

The good thing about this is that it'll get the tea baggers hopes up again so they can actually lose NY-23 twice

 

"All ballots will be counted, and if the result changes, Owens will have to be removed." said said John Conklin, communications director for the New York state Board of Elections.

 

Like I said, now the right wing nuts will get to lose NY-23 twice. At least in their warped minds.

Let me help you out as to why Hoffman has no chance in hell:

1.) He's currently down by 3000 votes.

2.) There were 10,000 absentee ballots sent out. Sent out. That doesn't mean they were all returned. Obviously not. I'd be surprised if more than 6 or 7K were actually returned (and that's a high estimate.)

3.) Almost all of these votes would have been between all three candidates as the Republican didn't drop out until a few days before the election.

4.) Hoffman would obviously have to win by an overwhelming margin among these absentee votes to make up the difference. He'd have to win about 75% (if there were 7000 returned.) What are the chances he won 75% of the vote out of three candidates when no poll ever showed him anywhere near that?

The reason Hoffman conceded is because it became obvious that he lost and that he had no path to victory.

I will tell you what though: This is great news for Democrats. Why? Because now the loony tea baggers will start to believe they actually won NY-23 and it was somehow "stolen" from them. This will empower them to do more of their "good work" around the country and it's clear that the more the tea baggers are successful at hurting moderate Republicans, the better that is for Democrats, because the majority of Americans want nothing to do with the far right wing.

 

The decision to concede was due to the erroneous vote count in Oswego County.

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2009/11/its_not_over_recanvassing_shows_ny23_race.html

 

If he wins this will have serious ramifications. Owens has already voted on laws.

 

~ would have been sensational had Hoffman prevailed for the conservatives and Palin in particular but now may end as a circus side show than as a close defeat......Blame it on ACORN!!!!!

 

Like I said: Teabaggers lost NY-23 TWICE. Ha. I hope they keep it up.

 

~ They keep losing on their principles but are allowed to hang around - Great Depression II was entirely their doing and yet people, the Independents, still give them credence. Time to put an end to them once and for all.

 

I think the bigger point that Boggart touched on is not who is leading, its about the fact that Pelosi illegally seated someone yet to be certified by the state.

In other words, the election is not over and anything she has done may very well have been done in order to circumvent the outcome prematurely.

 

I don't think they see issue with that since just like acorn, the ends justifies the means. So, by doing illegal activity in order to get their guy to win, the win is all that matters.

 

Maybe we can round them up and put them in camps!

 

Kinda like how Gallup polls are the save all end all accurate poll, unless of course their results are not favorable.

Heck, right now, both Fox News Polls and Rassmussen have more favorable numbers with regard to Obama's approval rating than Gallup. And here Gallup is old, wiser and more accurate.

That is until those numbers no longer agree with an agenda.

 

You really couldn't have a better result if you're the Democrats. Not only did they win the race that would have been won by the Republicans if the tea baggers had stayed out of it but tea baggers chosen candidate (Hoffman) did well enough to give them hope. With the recount (which ended up making almost no difference) and with the usual deranged ACORN lunacy (ACORN isn't even in that district and of course ACORN has never been associated with even one single fake vote. EVER.) the tea baggers actually think they won. This will give them the impetus to replay NY-23 all around the country which could very well be the Democrats best chance at stemming potential losses in 2010.

If enough of these far right wingers run in the congressional races in place of moderate Republicans I think Democrats may even be able to extend their majority in the House, especially if they can get a strong health care bill signed by President Obama and jobs start come back in time for the election.

 

~ Hoffman conceded the race - just an oversite by Pelosi and the one vote on health care would have still passed....no actions by anyone changed the set vote count established when the pols were closed.

 

The race was initially conceded only after partial information about a probably defeat occurred. The reality is that there were some 10,000+ votes outstanding and the numbers that were initially reported were closer than expected.

Regardless of his concession the votes have yet to be certified, therefore his concession is a moot point until such time as the election is certified.

That said, Pelosi likely is in error.

 

This whole thing with right wingers getting upset about Pelosi putting Owens in the House (after his opponent conceded) is so ridiculous. It's like a new level of sore loserdom is being created.

HOFFMAN LOST.

When are you guys going to get over it? Pathetic!