Somali Islamists stone a woman to death for adultery

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    Somali Islamists stone a woman to death for adultery

    MOGADISHU, Nov. 17 (Xinhua) -- Islamist rebels on Tuesday publicly stoned a woman to death and flogged a man 100 times for alleged adultery in southern Somalia.

    Sheik Ibrahim Sheik Abdurrahman, a Al-Shabaab court judge in ElBon village in Bakool region, told local media about the courts verdict.

    "Haliimo Ibraahim Abdurrahman, 29, who had been previously married, had an illegal sex with Nanah Mohamed Maadey, 20, previously unmarried, and they have confessed to the acts in front of the court which sentenced Halimo to be stoned to death and Nanah to receive 100 lashes in accordance with the Islamic law," Sheikh Abdurrahman said.

    Hundreds of local people, mostly women and children, saw the stoning of the woman and the lashing of the man which were carried out by Islamist fighters from the hard-line Al-Shabaab insurgent group which controls much of south and center of Somalia.

    The group which is waging a deadly insurgency against Somali government applies stricter version of the Islamic law or the Sharia by carrying out similar punishments on people alleged to have "confessed" of committing crimes.

    Al-Shabaab, considered by the Somali government as a terrorist group with links to Al-Qaeda, bans music, films the mixing of different sexes and demands women to wear dress that cover the whole body.

    The movement wants to establish an Islamic state in war wrecked Somalia while the Somali government said it adopted a moderate version of Islamic rule.

    The Somali government which is internationally recognized but is struggling for its survival controls only parts of the country's restive coastal capital of Mogadishu.

    Somalia has had no strong central government for nearly two decades since the ouster of former ruler Mohamed Siyad Barre in 1991. source


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    Does anyone know why the woman is put to death and the man only gets 100 lashes? Seems like they are being punished differently for the same crime. Aside from the barbaric nature of the punishment it seems very unequal and unfair to women.
     
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  2. alexispetrov

    alexispetrov Peon

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    I would imagine it is because, in this case, she was married (previously or not) and he wasn't - I could be wrong though, Islam is hardly logical and has a long history of discrimination and violence against women.

    I was thinking the other day about how a woman being stoned is buried up to her neck while a man is buried up to his waist. If they can escape they are freed as happened earlier this year with one man (cant find the link, but will if anyone needs it) - that says it all.
     
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  3. Dodara

    Dodara Active Member

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    That's why most converters to Islam are women ?!
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    Dodara,

    Do you know why the woman is put to death and the man gets 100 lashes?
     
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    Its Islam. Do you need more justification???

    Islam and Terror (blood, murder, blasts) are two sides of a coin.
     
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    Because married adulterers are punished with lapidation (regardless of the gender) and unmarried adulterers are punished with 100 lashes (again, regardless of gender). In this particular case, the woman was married and the man is unmarried. If it had been the other way round, the man would have been lapidated and the woman would have gotten the lashes. It has nothing to do with gender or any of the ridiculous interpretations of Shari'ah that you people are making up.

    I am a woman too and I find it silly that this lie about Islam being biased towards women is so widely propagated. I feel liberated in Islam and I will never trade it for another religion. Get that message?
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    Not looking to fight or a flame war, but sincerely curious..why would you feel liberated?
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    Thank you for your answer.

    The article says she had been previously married. Neither the man or the woman were married. I guess you are saying she was previously married and that is the distinction that makes her crime punished differently. Is that correct? Is this according to the Koran?

    I am happy you like your religion. Why are you talking about trading it, I am confused?
     
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    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    Sahih Muslim, 1690:

    "Acquire it from me, acquire it from me. The Almighty has revealed the directive about women who habitually commit fornication about which He had promised to reveal. If such criminals are unmarried or are the unsophisticated youth, then their punishment is a hundred stripes and exile and if they are widowers or are married, then their punishment is a hundred stripes and death by stoning."
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    Thank you.
     
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    Wait - to be windowed is the same as married?
    What happens if a woman gets married at 17 to a man of, oh, I don't know - 112? Then he dies because, let's face it, he is old and probably deserves it for ruining this young girl's life.
    Does this mean she is now doomed to spend her life alone? :confused:;
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #12
    It looks like the quran says she could remarry...

    A Muslim widow is allowed to remarry, and her remarriage is the responsibility of the Muslim society. Quran 2:234

    [2:234] Those who die and leave wives, their widows shall wait four months and ten days (before they remarry). Once they fulfill their interim, you commit no error by letting them do whatever righteous matters they wish to do. G-D is fully Cognizant of everything you do.
     
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    I'm not a religious type of guy, but Islam seem to fits my profile if i decide to get on board( no suicide bombing). Like everyone that joined the religion. I'll have the privilege to have multiple wives(gotta luv dat):D. Also i'll know for a fact my wives won't cheat on me. Man, now i'm starting to see why Islam is the faster religion.
     
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    It does not look like .. it is allowed, in fact all of the wives of Prophet SAW were widows except for Aisha (RA)
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    Though it would be better to have a faithful wife simply because she loves you, respects you, and chooses to be with you, instead of staying with you because of lack of other options, or fear of being brutally murdered for being with someone else. I don't agree with adultery, but it shouldn't be a capital offence.

    OK, thanks for the info New.
     
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    In Christianity isn't it:

    I, (Name),
    Take you, (Name),
    To be my (wife/husband);
    To have and to hold,
    From this day forward,
    For better, for worse,
    For richer, for poorer,
    In sickness and in health,
    To love and to cherish,
    'Till death do us part." (or, "As long as we both shall live.")

    So unromantic!:p
     
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    Still people converts to Islam and mostly are women and its the fastest growing religion, no matter how many of you keep crying how Islam is intolerant and violent, it is still growing and most converters are women ;)
     
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    Kinda hard to find one nowadays. Like i said i'm not going to be a blow myself up type of Muslim, nothing to be worry about up:p. I like the idea of my wife fear me a lil thou.
     
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    I find that untrue. Convicts are the faster group of people joining islam.
     
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    wow! since when you got so humble :eek:

    yes just like alexispetrov above, who comes and starts crying in every thread relating to Islam+Women
    just above she said
    and her level of intellect and knowledge is so high that in spite of whinning repeatedly across the board about discrimination against Muslims Women , she didn't even know that widows in Islam have no restriction whatsoever to marry again!
    talk of a troll!
     
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