People mention clickbank, tradebit, amazon, ebay, etc as some places where you can sell your ebook. How about selling through a company's enormous mailing list for a fee? I've heard of people who do this. Is that feasible? Also, how about selling an ebook with PLR rights and limited to a set amount of copies? Or selling master resale rights? Or instead selling your ebook through your own website and building your own customer list? What is the most efficient way to selling your ebook? Which methods work best for you? What would you recommend?
The best places to find that information you are looking for, is to search deeper in this and other Internet Marketing forums - past experiences will tell you what methods are the best to follow. and why.
You mention clickbank, amazon, etc, but your question states "WHERE do you market your ebook?" In my mind, you would market your ebook to the crowd most likely to buy. (forums where these folks frequent, youtube, squidoo, etc) Did I misinterpret your question? It is my understanding that the best place to host your product for others to sell would indeed be Clickbank.
Actually I was wondering about where some folk on here tend to market their material which has brought them the best results.
I wrote 3 e-books, and sell them on my own. I advertise in sites (and offline) that I believe its visitors may click on. That's, baiscally it. I don't do any noob methods that do not work. Like, Twitter, blogging, signatures, social networks.... Building a list from your visitors is highly overrated. It brings in VERY little money, while at the same time you are giving stuff away! Although it is good to give some stuff, info. away, you are not in the business of giving stuff away to, basically, moochers. Period. At one time I thought about doing a mailing list you spoke of, but the odds are just too great that will not work. You have to wonder if the list is up to date. They may say it is, but.... Then, many on that list don't bother to open the e-mail. You spent money for those names! On and on like this. The price of it is too much anyway. You have to get a certain number to open the mail. Then, you have to get a certain number to go to your site THEN, you have to get a certain number to buy. After all of this, very few will buy to make a profit. For me, anyway. It might, MIGHT work for those selling a popular, high-ticket item. Thats is, if I understood your question correctly. Bottom line is, I created a line of good ads that I put in other webmasters' sites and offline. On one of my e-books, DeAngelo, doubleyourdating.com is a minor competitor of mine, and he advertises all over the place. He is not much of a marketer, and his site and e-book sucks, but at least he has the sense to know that he has to advertise. You have to advertise. That's the bottom line.
These two declaration made my day! Seriously. Haven't seen anything so brilliant for ages! And I'm sure David would like to see this bit and he would be very amused! As for myself, my hat goes off as you're a hell of a marketer, probably making well in excess of $100k a month - after all, David is just a minor competitor for you so you can't be making much less than he does, right? P.S. Just for the record - this is the first time I have the bejingles to reply to any of your posts, PhilipR. I've witnessed what usually happens after someone is bold enough to disagree with anything you have to say (*HINT* an endless flame *HINT*) so I declare right away that this is my first and last post in this thread.
What usually happens? Lets find out.. Phillip explain to me how social networking is a "noob method". Are you not seeing any results? Sounds to me like you are the one who isnt much of a 'marketer'. Whether you like it or not social networking is becoming an increasingly popular form or online marketing for a reason.. its cheap, isn't time consuming and you DO see results. Although I do not write and flog cheap, pathetic ebooks that preach a load of re-written garbage from wikipedia and 'guru' blogs, I know people who have had huge success using social networks as a medium to sell their books.. Social networks should be used to go hand-in-hand with other marketing efforts. You refer to signature links, social networks, blogging as 'noob methods'? Dude.. they are cheap, free and easy tactics that drive extra traffic to your website. The only time these should be refered to as 'noob methods' are when people spend ALL their time trying to drive traffic from these mediums. WHen they go hand in hand with other marketing efforts then it is time well spent.. So please PhillipR.. explain...
"David"??? So you know him, do ya? *chuckles* lol sorry to laugh, but did you pull that one out of your ass??? (Ugh, noobs who make shit up.) When you have more experience to know the reality of things, we will have a discussion. Until then, keep your noob piehole shut. Thank you. You've seen my harsh replies to dumbasses who make shit up, who post just to post, who assume things and post as if they are facts. All others I am polite too, and I help them as much as I can, as you have also seen. Or do you just focus on the negative? If you do not like it, I do not know what to say. Why thank you. I take it back, you can open your piehole up just a little. Just think first, and have experience and a brain backing up what you say. I'm just saying. "Huge success"? Name them. Okay, this is one of these instances where I get harsh with complete clueless noobs, and, kids who think they know it all. This quote coming from someone with very little traffic. How do I know you have a slooooow site? Because you actually think signatures, as an example, works. If you think it works, if you are ok with a few hits here and there, along with a high bounce rate, more power to ya. Oh, and....how long have you been trying to get good traffic now? I always ask my readers, and snot nose kids, who think they know what is going on, that one. That usually shuts them up. But, hey, different strokes for different folks. You think it works, go for it. I think we can agree on that one.
Mate, I think you fail to see my point. As I said in my previous post, signature, social marketing. They are free tactics that go hand-in-hand with other marketing efforts. I agree with you, signatures receive very little traffic. I am subscribed to numerous forums and when I have a like posted in my signature, I receive roughly 50-60 referals per day, yes its extremely minimal traffic.. but its still traffic. Would you rather those 60 peoples visiting or not get them at all? For 5 minutes a day, you are exposing your website and products to potentially hundreds - thousands of extra people. And you still don't see this as a benefit? At the end of the day its EASY, EXTRA traffic. Do I rely on social networks to generate traffic? No. Do I think that is worthwhile to get extra traffic (even though its minimal)? Yes. Who wouldnt want more traffic...
By doing that, posting and posting and posting, many would not want the very few hits here and there, along with a high bounce rate. They focus on more productive methods. Example: Advertising both off and online, word of mouth, referrals, affiliates.... No you don't. But, hey, show me. But, like I said, different strokes for different folks. Knock yourself out. But, again, how long have you been trying to get good traffic now??? And what are the url's from these people you "know" who have "huge success" doing social networks again? For all others who think I am being harsh here, I am trying to keep this real. If you want to learn, you have to know the realites of it all. And, ask those questions to weed out the bullshitters!
Try posting in forums relevant to the topic/ subject of your ebook. Getting active in communities relevant to your subject helps out for marketing.
I have entered into this argument on the simple fact that these methods do work for me. They require minimal time and I get a good return on that minimal time. Here is the referal stats for our website today: All we have done in the last few days is one tiny post on twitter and thats todays numbers. Referals arent our strong point, but we do get a few small numbers.. from one tiny 2 minute post on twitter I believe thats worthwhile. More productive methods? How much more productive can you get offline? Word of mouth? You expect to forcefully generate some form of word of mouth in 2 mins and setting up affiliate relationships? 2 minutes can't do much, thats why twitter is a good, useful tool. Also an example of how well social networks react to eBooks.. I am close friends with the Managing Director of a company here in Sydney who produce exhibition stands for trade shows for large companies including American Express, Australian Open, Sony and Mars. In the last five years they have almost trippled in size. 6-8 months ago I got to have a good talk with him about his success and he put it down to new age marketing strategies. He is generating roughly 75% of his leads online. We started discussing his various tactics and one that sparked my interest was his list building strategies, common strategy, he created various ebooks/guides with the common topic of 'how to be successful at exhibitions' and used this as an incentive to opt-in to their list. They heavily promoted the giveaway through social networks as well as newsletters and achieved great results. 5 years ago they had 1 admin/marketing manager. Today they employ a team of 8 or so in their marketing department. I am not saying this was a result of social networks but it contributed to their success. You can call me a bullshit artist, whatever you want. I have no problems sending you the address of this company via PM. At the end of the day, these simple methods work for me, they work for others. They are quick, easy, and you do see results.
9, 5, 2...that's it? Hey, I keep saying, if you are happy with that, if you think that is good, along with a high bounce rate, then have at it. Noobs, kids, think that is good. But, again, they have near dead sites also, so.... More experienced and successful webmasters think that is bottom of the barrel, and they do methods that ACTUALLY work in the real world. Again, it is different strokes for different folks. Still waiting for the url's.
You are calling me a noob because I am generating 25 hits for 2 mins of work? Bounce rate is not high either. You're still failing to see my argument, time is money. 2 mins work = 25 hits, I dont see who wouldn't be happy with that. I dont know how many time I have to say its MINIMAL and you keep calling me a noob even though I am admitting it? By the sounds of it you aint getting anything...
Yeah, I am. And not everything is being told. No url's, huh? Again, how long have you been doing this now, and still very, VERY low traffic??? This doesn't exactly apply here, but I like it, nevertheless: Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein But I prefer the word stupidity.
first off to the op.. I market my ebooks in sites that match . I also pass out business cards. I have consider clickbank but am lazy to edit my sites lol And to the two people debating. I think you both should consider starting a new thread. It's not polite to piggy back on someone else's thread. Just an idea!
You can sell your ebook in too many ways. That is a huge problem that I'm suffering from myself. When you ebook is on ClickBank, it still doesn't mean you will get traffic, but if you are beginner it is the fastest and easiest way to get started. Another place is PayDotCom, or Click2Sell.eu. More advanced sales systems include 1shoppingcart.com, nanacast.com and infusionsoft.com When you use some of these it's more likely that you FULLY KNOW what you are doing... After it's up and everything is working properly start driving serious amouts of traffic to the offer with free marketing, paid marketing, joint ventures and whatever you can get your hands on. when you are making enough money start outsourcing your tedious tasks such as linkbuilding, blog commenting etc... Maybe "forum writing" in smaller forums that you are not personally active in, and article writing. I mean you can run a business entirely on outsource if you like... - Chris
Yeah nice man, call me insane and stupid. What URL?... I gave you the case study I was refering to. You are still failing to see my point, hence .. I think in this situation 'stupidity' best describes you. I believe the reason you fail to see my point is you clearly do not understand the world of business. As you are still having trouble to understand I will narrow it down to 3 simple words for you: Time. Is. Money. Twitter, Digg, Facebook etc require next to no time. You can pick up targetted followers and friends and get results for nothing. Our business also carry out PPC campaigns, in our niche we are paying anywhere around $1 per hit. 25 FREE hits is great, around the same bounce rate, who would complain? Our simple social network referals are actually decent quality traffic. You keep saying the bounce rate is high.. its not. Our 'tweets' etc are good quality, we arent flogging shit, so people are interested. You can sit there all you want preaching that you are another awesome marketing guru who makes millions selling shitty ebooks, but as I keep saying you arent. You are just another one of those morons who doesn't want to accept all the hype about these newage marketing platforms. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about, I would love to hear some of your 'awesome' marketing strategies and the amount/quality of the traffic you are receiving as well as the results in dollar figures. I guarentee our turnover + profit is 10x that of yours. EDIT: 30X Ill end this here for the thread-starters benefit, feel free to keep this running via PM.