Are devoted muslims more inclined to violence?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Truth777, Nov 7, 2009.

  1. bhuvasona

    bhuvasona Guest

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    #21
    Guys and specially atheists plz stop starting threads about muslims and islam. Im sure these user who starts these kinda topic do it deliberately to create an impression on others mind that islam and muslims are related to violence .

    All u guys if u get bored plz do something else rather than startin a topic on islam and muslims.


    If u get so much of fun talking all these things in a forum then i suggest u wil get more fun if u do it in real life .
    go talk to any one of ur muslims friend and im sure u will immediately have a bleeding nose. i bet u will.

    Starting these kinda thread to gain knowledge of things which u and others dont know thats fine, coz its all about sharing knowledge but u guys starting threads to insult muslims and islam and im sure there are thousands of muslims members in DP who will surely feel humiliated coz of these kinda threads.
     
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  2. imad

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    #22
    With that comment, I think you are no different than those who start such threads without knowledge for other purpose than learning or knowing, Muslims do not mind people talking about Islam in the contrary, you will find Muslims so eager to talk and explain their religion to whomever asks, but all depends on the intention behind these "talks" or "questions"

    if you are asking to know, you will get answers, if you have other agenda similar to the fanatic Christians here, like debunked, Truth77, or the lunatic Zionists who are posing as Americans or Atheists here, like Cmike11, or browntwn, or bogart, ChaosTrivia, or like some Atheists like stoX, in fact, I see atheists less hateful than the prior ones, so I wonder why you have "especially atheists" but if you are like any of these with a hateful agenda, then you may get a bleeding nose, if that happened then it would be wrong, because the order to deal with such people is clear:

    And when they hear vain talk, they turn away therefrom and say: "To us our deeds, and to you yours; peace be to you: we seek not the ignorant." [Qur'an 28:55]

    And the slaves of the Most Beneficent (Allâh) are those who walk on the earth in humility and sedateness, and when the foolish address them (with bad words) they reply back with mild words of gentleness. [Qur'an 25:63]

    somebody may ask, if the order was not to argue these ignorant, why are Muslims replying them? it is simple, they post such stuff to create a bad image about Islam in the minds of those who are unaware, so Muslims reply to give the other side of the story to those who are unaware, and not to argue, or to try to change something in the bigots, because they are blind and deaf by their hate.
     
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  3. ChaosTrivia

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    #23
    This is like asking if the sun will raise tomorrow.
    The data and statistics available points unambiguously on only one possible answer, no hesitations, "but"s, or side comments.
    The answer is: [size=+5]YES[/size].

    Lets leave the debate against the huge statistics for the fools.
     
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  4. Polite teen

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    #24
    Truth777!

    I think Jesus knew that the jews are masters in hypocricy and that they used to have good people as enemies, so he declared to them since the begining that he came not to set them peace, but a sword to set the son against his father and the daughter against her mother.

    Jesus came to save us from your type and to set the war that you ignite among others to be in your home.

    Peace be upon Jesus and his followers.
     
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  5. Truth777

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    #25
    Jesus never preached violence, nor he ever practiced such. He spoke all the time with symbols, so one has to have wisdom to read between the lines of his sermons.

    As a matter of fact the jews who were ready to accept His teaching immigrated to other countries (for the time being).
     
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  6. bhuvasona

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    #26
    yes ur right, but im kinda sick and tierd of ppl here starting threads about muslims and islam jus to make fun of it in a sarcastic way.
    Im always open and ready to explain things about islam , only to know who want to know or learn what is islam or to clear their doubts about it and definetly not to those who purely create threads for makin fun out of it.
     
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  7. Zibblu

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  8. Truth777

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    #28

    How are you going to explain to the jews that 600 of their brethren - POW including young boys (with pubic hair) got beheaded with the approval of Muhamad as an act ordered by God?
    I just don't buy it (I am not a jew).
    God already gave the New teaching for the human race and it was "Love one another, Love your enemies." Muhammad probably practiced that sometimes, but too many times didn't.

    Instead of letting the POW who surrendered unconditionally, go he gave them in the hands of a butcher.
    Another thing - muhammad was selling captives for money, Muhammad possessed at least one slave , what is so holy about somebody who was interested in money, power, and women - including children?

    How are you going to convince me he was a true prophet? Even the worst criminal can do good deeds, but that won't make him a saint righ? I've read different spiritual books, but when I start reading the quran things just does not add up the content in it is Divine, I have to twist everything I consider as true in order to start believing it. At times I feel sorry for the muslims who got the bad luck to be born in a muslim country where independent thinking is against "the Islamic law".
     
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  9. imad

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    #29
    Just 600 Jews? I thought they were 900!!

    anyway, why would a Muslim need to explain something that did not happen?


    there is always a part of Jews, who always love to victimize Jews, and this is not new, it happened in the holocaust despite some Jews did nothing to help their brethren, not only they did not help, but also prevented others from helping their brethren, and later those Jews who stood still, blamed the world for not helping, and made a good use of the victims' blood to commit crimes against other people who did not harm them,

    [​IMG]

    there is an example in the front of our very own eyes, the Zionist Jews, who give this very rotten image to all Jews worldwide, whenever a Jew tries to correct this bad rotten image they give, they call him self-hating Jew, despite they themselves are mostly Atheists not Jews,

    they kill hundreds of Palestinians every year, demolish thousands of houses, prison thousands of Palestinians, occupy Palestinian land illegally, steal their water source and prevent them from moving from/to their homes, and works, and much more,

    guess who is crying "we are the victim"? yup, you got it right, it is these Zionist Jews who are crying we are the victims, while the real victims are Palestinians, and those other true Jews whom they try to hijack,

    [​IMG]

    and funny enough, you find some fanatic Christians like yourself, repeating this, not because they really believe it, but because they believe that this will hurry the coming of Jesus,

    btw, do you usually after posting jump in hysteria from one place to another while shouting: "horraaayy lets spread hate, lets make a huge bloodshed, so Jesus would find it FUN and come :D YIPPIEEE blood blood, kill kill, oh Jesus love this mess..."

    how can you explain it to yourself that Jesus is so loving, while his requirement to come again is HUGE BLOODSHED lol

    I recommend you to read Talmud for faster hate spreading ;)

    anyway, to stay on topic, here is the refute for your lie, or the one you copied from your favorite hateful site and pasted it here:

     
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  10. ChaosTrivia

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    #30
    :D :D
    Imad how ridiculous are you? I am sitting here enjoying my wine and laughing, you sit there cry all day how poor and miserable you and the Palestinians are... yet I am the one who is crying?.... hmmmm........ Israel is having fun and kickin ass, the Palestinians do nothing but cry, this is all they are capable of. But in your imaginary world you fail to see this too.
    You have never said anything bad on anything but Israel. Isn't this called "crying"?


    http://www.jews-for-allah.org/

    :D great website Imad. These people could be your best friends, straight from the middle ages, you can sit with them on a shisha and discuss who to beat the crusaders.
    You can also discuss with them the new developments in science, regarding on the new cutting-edge philosophical toughts: Is the earth flat? a big controversy nowaday in the muslim world.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0kR1qqzbKs
    :) hahahahahahahahahahaha this killed me!
    sometimes when I read what you write I see this man ....
     
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  11. imad

    imad Peon

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    #31
    Chaos making yet another post of the same type that it seems he knows no better than it:

    1- ridiculing
    2- laughing
    3- discrediting the source
    4- but of course never refuting

    it is like him saying "Hay people, I am laughing at Imad's post, yeah see I m drinking wine and laughing, so please laugh with me, let's all laugh together at his post, come on!! let's laugh.. yeah, I beg you to laugh! and not read!"

    This is the same method which Jack Bernstein the ex-Zionist described in his challenge:


    I hope that you know that most people are unlike you, do not laugh for no reason, so why were you laughing, were is the joke or the climax exactly?

    is it the source site for that article? they merely posted an article with the original source, not just an article but a well done study by The Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain and Ireland. what do you have to say about it? of course, nothing, just laughing like a fool :p

    or is it the part that says "Zionists cry that they are the victim?"

    are you saying that this is not true? or you think the whole matter is limited to you and me and DP forum? if so, then look at the wider image, and do not be very narrow minded, because Zionists been crying since long about the holocaust, and about being victims of Palestinians, despite they are the ones who cause killing, stealing, occupying else land and property illegally, not the Palestinians.

    here are few examples:

    Jews were victims of the Zionists elite who been working hand in hand with Nazi's:

    51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis

    despite this collaboration, and almost same ideologies, these Zionists are crying how terrible was the Holocaust, and even have a museum for it to which they invite any visitor to the so-called Israel.

    now before you start laughing or crying, prove that these info are wrong ;)

    another example:

    the so-called Israel always complained how it's neighbors wanted wars, when Israeli prime ministers themselves explain how they wanted war:

    another example, the last Gaza war, where 1200+ Palestinians been killed, many of them in cold blood and many of them were children, while so-called Israel was crying that they were victims of Hamas, despite it them who put "the Palestinians on a diet, but not to make them die of hunger""

    and so many more examples, would take a whole forum to include them all, I recommend you to read this article below, you will piss yourself laughing hahahaha

    Philip Slater: A Message to Israel: Time to Stop Playing the Victim Role
     
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  12. ChaosTrivia

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    #32
    Imad, I have work to do, I don't have time to read all this great propaganda stuff that says nothing, repeatedly posted every 2nd post of yours.

    All I said is that you were crying, and funnily accuse me of crying, your last post seem also like a lot of crying.

    Make shorter posts, try to argue something of your own. enlighten us. introduce new facts, new ways of thinking.
    save all the whining for jordanian TV and aljazeera.
     
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  13. imad

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    #33
    hmm, once I am crying, after a little while, me accusing you of crying? is crying a crime now? and when did I accuse you of crying lol, in the contrary you were laughing like a hyena

    [​IMG]

    anyway, all these are not important, the issue is important, or the topic, still as usual, nothing you have about the info that been posted, except "propaganda" whenever you have time, you can come back to the thread, and prove that the info is wrong.
     
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  14. ChaosTrivia

    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    #34
    LOL. Good boy Imad. the topic is indeed what's important. This was my contribution to the topic, my opinion, my thought.

    I can't see how your quotes links images and the other usual crap is related to the topic.
     
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    The same story, as I faced in Rawalpindi Blast Thread,
     
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    #36
    it is simple, and all were related to the topic if you been following, until you came and started to add posts that only contain laughs, here is a summary:

    1- Truth777 in a try to prove his "suggesting" question in the thread title - posted something about Muslims and the prophet killing 600 Jews.
    2- I posted something to refute what Truth777 posted.
    3- You came and started laughing, diverting, ridiculing..

    what else than this do you have? if you think that the info I posted is wrong, or contain lies, then feel free to correct or refute them, but you do not do so, and this is not the first time, you are always acting like this, without adding any informative post.
     
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  17. ChaosTrivia

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    #37
    Truth777 and his comments are not part of the topic.
    Prophet muhamed killing jews or not are not part of the topic as well.
    so of course I have to ridicule what you said, because you say the same stuff regardless of the topic of the thread, numerous times, from the same "404-error" kind of websites...

    the topic is: "Are devoted muslims more inclined to violence?"
    this is a "yes" "no" question.
    You should answer it like this:
    "Yes, because....."
    or
    "No, because...."
    try to keep the jews out.
    Here is an example on how you answer a simple question:

    see, that was my first post in the thread, answering the topic.
    then, I had to laugh from the unrelated BS you wrote, but I prefer to debate the topic and not it. start a thread on anything you want and then we'll see what I can do.

    Now you go:
    ..... Yes, because ....
    ..... No, because ....

    we have faith in you! go go imad! no zionists, we are talking about devout muslims. You are a devout muslim you should know and explain.

    I say "YES, because the statistics don't lie....". ;)
     
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    #38
    in the contrary Truth77 post is related to the question he asked in the thread title, he thinks that Muslims are violent, because .... and he showed some examples, which I refuted ...

    by the way, you did not follow your own guide in your example post, it is Yes I know, but where is the "because..."? you know that being in big font size and in bold, does not mean that there should be no "because.."

    it is like saying "Yes, because I have it in big font and bold"

    edit to add: so far you did not prove any of the info that I posted as wrong, thanks for proving that they are correct.
     
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  19. GeorgeB.

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    IBS

    (in before st0x)
     
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    #40
    Are devoted Christians more inclined to violence? Yes.
    Are devoted Muslims more inclined to violence? Yes.
    Are devoted Jews more inclined to violence? Yes.
    Are devoted NAZIs more inclined to violence? Yes.
    Are devoted communists more inclined to violence? Yes.

    Are devoted Buddhist more inclined to violence? No.
    Are non-devoted people or agnostic/atheist more inclined to violence? No.

    Is Truth777 more inclined to violence in word (by inciting it)? Abso-fuckin-lutely.
     
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