Liberal Qualification: Being Ugly?

All the stuff you originally mentioned Rick had to do with appearences rather then actions, you know that people are not defined by the way the look right?

I think this statement infers that you think you are actually better then other people, based on something as superficial as appearences

 

There is a psychological explanation for it, but takes too long to get into

(Women get more emotionally attached thru sex, and when they do a bunch of dudes, they " lose themselves", while a guy more or less gets his rocks off and gathers more and more stories to tell his friends )

 

Okay. But becoming emotionally attached during sex doesn't contribute to why women who sleep with a bunch of men are considered whores. It's a double standard, man.

 

You're right, it is. I don't judge women that way. There shouldn't be such a negativity towards sex, we don't live in the 50's any more..

The funniest (and most ironic) part is that men want and try so badly to get into girl's pants... yet the girls who give in are called derogitory names and harrassed for it. Makes sense dumb asses.

 

No, the majority of people don't live in the 50's anymore...

Exactly! Why IS that? As long as women are practicing safe sex, I don't think it matters how many guys she sleeps with.

 

The thing is this: women who sleep around, become bitchy and annoying, while dudes who do it are cool, calm and relaxed

 

Um.... or not, Mike. Maybe you need to get your head out of where it is and come back to reality.

 

hehe .... ok. Then I really don't know why it is. Just thought of some real life examples I know of.

 

By the way, this is not from me, it's from Loveline's Dr. Drew. And so are some of the other statements I've made in here. So if you wanna get mad at someone or call someone a sexist, call in on his show and let him have it

 

I have no intention of calling anyone names or getting mad. But I'm assuming whether those statements originated from you or not, since you posted them you obviously think there's a bit of truth in what he had to say. Correct me if I'm wrong? Do you believe that, or are you just out of it today?

 

I do believe it to some extent.

 

Isn't part of some guy's hang ups about how many men a woman has slept with stem from insucurities in their sexual abilitites?

Like they are scared to get compared to other guys?

 

Dunno, but have you ever heard women brag about how many guys they have slept with?

 

Not really but I'm not sure what your point is? That woman should be ashamed or something?

 

Not always...let's not kid ourselves, as SOME people act the way they look. That's the more trivial part of what I asserting. What I find funny is that people that lived the 60's (the way it was portrayed), find the kids now-a-days even worse off...as though nothing in their culture effected the current. I take the extreme (which usually is without reason) and I morally oppose it, because I know that can end-up an usual norm in the future.

People don't think hippies had effect on the world? Obviously they did.

'Better' in this situation is a subjective term...my opinion is no more different than yours in validity. It would be like arguing over which song is better. It's not as though you don't make moral choses (which are subjective). My moral choses are a bit more flexible than they appear. I've been around almost every kind of person in my life, and most of these people belive I have their morals by default of my own opinion being asserted ie I'm not constantly judging people.

My father's an old liberal, but he has no idea about my political idealogy. I know many people that cheat on their wife/husband, but I don't forceable make them feel guilty...if they ask, I honestly tell them 'is it worth losing them?' If someones overweight, I don't call them a 'fatass', I just speak of my own excercise routine as form of promotion. Although when it comes down to it, I reserve the 'right' to morally judge a culture/philosophy that I oppose.

 

No matter how seemly reasonable your statement, if a common man finds out how many men a woman has slept with, his opinion will lessen by the numbers. It's not as though there's some science to it, it's just part of the male culture.

I've never met a man that wants to marry a 'whore'.

If you really think about it, a lot of cultural standards are odd...but they're more or less engrained in a lot of us.

Why is it wrong for someone to be with you, and be with another? It just is...if that standard didn't exist in your mind, what would make that wrong?

 

If you trully love someone you can easily get by 'numbers' afterall it's only a number. This common man could care less, the past is the past it's the future that matters. A whore, just because a woman has had a few men does not make her a whore.....

Guess I'm not 'common'..ohwell. I may even find it a turn on that a woman knows what she's doing, who knows, if she was my match the past would not matter to me one bit, the future is all that would matter to me.

 

Some, but for every punked out kid working hot topix in the mall who thinks coloring his hair is just so crazy, there is a clean cut preppie guy who would cut your throat in a heartbeat.

I would have to say some of the most violent and criminally minded people I have met often look very clean cut, because they know it helps them not attract attention to themselves.

Do you feel the same way about different races? Do you feel that some races act the way the look?

I would say not, people who think they are better then others especially due to something as meaningless as appearance, are showing some deep seeded character flaws, in my opinion. So I would have to disagree, not the same as arguing over a song

 

Going back to the original premise of this thread;

I worked through the 80's and most of the 90's in a business capacity being a consultant to businesses and organizations in the Washington DC area. I worked with all kinds of entities. 4 of them were extremely political, two being extremely to the far right and 2 being extremely to the far left. Some of the 4 were big well known names.

Most of the businesses and organizations I worked with were either not political or they were not overtly oriented to one side or the other.

I typically worked with either the senior person or a higher up designated by the senior with the senior person then being involved intermitently.

It was straight business stuff with the essence of the consulting having nothing to do with politics.

The 4 ultra political groups ALWAYS talked about politics...and always spouted stuff that ranged from moderate to primarily ultra either conservative or liberal.

Other groups NEVER did this. NEVER!!!! I even worked with a guy who had previously been the Chairman of one of the two parties. That guy was not nearly as overtly political and oriented to deep right or left politics as the 4 organizations/businesses that were way on one political side or the other. Most of the time I worked with that guy he kept kidding about the contact that put me in touch with him and his organization.

It was very interesting!!!! This thread reminds me of that experience.

It also speaks to so much stuff that flies around in this category.

I guess its sort of interesting though, in that this is neither a crazy left, right, American, International, any particular religeon, any particular perspective Blog or place where only one kind of perspective thoroughly dominates all the time.

Maybe that's why the language and comments get rough at times!!!!

Getting back to the original thread....there are good looking conservatives and liberals .... and ugly people on both sides...: although people from Hollywood say that Washington is a place for UGLY important people!!!

 

Odd question. I tend to think enviroments effect one more than anything else.

My cousins whom are half black, and lived fairly close to the ghetto...while both of them were raised by a lady that came from Minesota, they also were influenced by their neighborhood. Funny, both of them had three children before they even got married (most in their teens). And even after both of them got divorced they had more children.

Ones skin color isn't a chose. No one is born chosing that. Although one can't chose the culture they are raised in or the people that surround them in their youth..unfortunately. One can be influenced to make bad choses by popular culture.

By what standard would I be judging myself superior? Would you agree that Einstein isn't a particular attractive person? Just because I may look better than him, am I 'superior' to him? NO. Obviously he contributed intellectually far more than I ever will...does that make him superior to me?..I don't think so..

That's a rather broad concept...superior (which you seem to think is the context). People offer different things, and particular ideas with the actions they permeate. People may be superior in particular standards (e.g intellectual contribution), but in person I would not state that. I think that's a rather opinionate view ie subjective. You shouldn't disagree with me, because I'm saying it's not 'right or wrong' to most levels ie people like hitler can't use that arguement for 'superior'.

Your expanding my view beyond what it is. Disliking an attribute of someone doesn't mean you hate the whole person. I don't like Bush or Clinton's politics, but I'm sure I could have a barbecue with them and get along just fine.