Questions Muslims don't like to answer

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by DiscussionPeace, Aug 16, 2006.

  1. Arasp

    Arasp Well-Known Member

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    #161
    Friends, there are interpretations for Koran.
    This none-believer called "Kafar" in koran, goes back to the time when Mohammad (PBUH) was living. Some of them decided to kill the prophet mohmammad and destory islam because they did not beilive the God. They worshiped Idols.

    And yes, we have many many times that is mentioned in Quran that we should give chance to the none-believers and sinner and they may come back to the RIGHT PATH .

    Unfortunately some friends here try only to attack each other. if we become more friendly I can show you many many similarties between the religions of Muslims , cheristians and jews. And we will all feel much better.

    I believe that Politics is nothing but corruption. The war between people is because of the politics not religions.

    Blogmaster, I will also reply to your post soon. Unfortunately , other people reply what I had said to "YOU", just to create argument and fight. :)

    I feel more comfortable with you rather than some other members of like lorien1973 . At least, you dont talk insultingly and you sound to be more logic.

    Ofcourse lorien1973 and other guys have not insulted me or Islam. But they way they talk is not that much friendly. :)
     
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  2. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #162
    You are the one that said the Koran says to kill people who do not believe in god. I did not make that assertion :rolleyes:

    Read your own post:
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=1275072&postcount=3

    Yeah Islam!
     
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  3. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #163
    Just so you know, YoYO is making all sorts of fun of Christians, all the time.
     
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  4. Arasp

    Arasp Well-Known Member

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    #164
    There is no force in Islam. The God has told us that we are free to have any religion we ‎want. ‎
    I remember my childhood, when I went to school and I started to read and write , I read ‎some stories about Mohammad, Jesus Christ (PBUH) about Abraham, About Musa and ‎Noah . they were five greatest prophet of God. In those days, everything was beautiful. I ‎did not even know what war and fight mean. ‎
    How about you? What did your teachers tell you when you wanted to know about Islam? ‎Did they tell you that Muhammad is the false prophet of God? Did they tell you that ‎Islam is the religion of terror? ‎
    This is because of my teachings or beliefs that I cannot insult Jesus (PBUH) in return of ‎the insults some of the guys did in this forum. ‎

    Yes! I have studied Christianity. I found nothing wrong with true Christianity. But I ‎found Islam better for me. What is wrong about it?
    I am not trying to convince you or any other person to believe that Islam is the better ‎religion. I am just saying that we should all respect the true religions from God. ‎

    My father is now a retired general of the Iranian airforce Army and I am sure that Iran do ‎not have nuclear weapon and we area not even trying to create such things. Our nuclear ‎activities are quite peaceful and you can follow the news of NPT regarding Iran’s nuclear ‎activities.‎

    Now I look at the issue in other way. ‎

    Regarding the nuclear weapon of the Israel. You say they have it but they don’t use it. ‎They have it for defending themselves. Right? ‎
    If these sentences brings legitimacy of this issue. ‎
    It is then the legitimacy right for ANY COUNTRY (not only Iran) to have nuclear ‎weapon for defending (and not using it). Does not this sound logic to you?‎

    You say that Ahmadinejad has said that Israel should be destroyed. Although I saw in the ‎news that some Jews Americans believe that Israel government is a state terrorist in the ‎region and it is coming to its end. But I personally do not agree with what our president ‎has said about Israel. However, I believe that by Israel, he means the Zionist regime not ‎the Jewish people.‎
    These are just the words, but in reality see what Israel did in Qana. See what Israel is ‎doing in Palestine. ‎

    I agree with you. Tomorrow is more important than yesterday. and I hope tomorrow to be a day of peace and justice, but I dont think it happens. :(

    What do you mean by scriptures? Bible and …. ? How can Islam be mentioned in Bible ‎when there was no Islam in that time?‎

    And let us say that it is written in your holy books that Muslims are enemies. ‎
    Doesn’t this promote racisms? And how do you stand this sentence? What is your own ‎idea about this? ‎

    I myself think that bible (if it is not changed and the bible is true and authenticated ‎message from God to Jesus) cannot promote racisms like this. Nowhere in Quran is ‎mentioned that Jews or Christians are enemies. ‎

    I really do not know how to answer this part of your text. Maybe I should answer this ‎with my heart and I am sure you will not agree with me. ‎

    Yes. There are some limitations in Islam but it is not harmful, it is useful to prevent ‎society from corruption. ‎
    Freedom is really good. But what kind of freedom? Freedom of speech? Freedom of ‎thought? Or freedom in having sex with swingers? ‎

    You can find those freedom of speech and freedom of thought in islam. And in your ‎personal life you can do anything you like, you can drink wine, you can swing your wife ‎and do whatever, the god has warned us for the justice day and I am sure you have it in ‎your religion too. ‎

    But some limitation in the society (not in personal life) is mandatory to save the society ‎from corruption. ‎

    In some other ways I think there is more freedom in Islamic countries rather than USA. ‎Do you really think American people feel really free when they know that their phone ‎calls will be controlled by the FBI or CIA?‎

    And yes, I will not find that much virgin in your country. But I sweat the god that there ‎are thousands of bitches and whores in Islamic countries too, but the number of virgins is ‎much more and yes. These muslims girls also know what they do. They just want to keep ‎themselves just for one person, and they love to it. Have you ever had a experience of ‎kissing a girl that has not kissed any other boy but you? It is so sweet ;) ‎

    At last, I am saying again that I wrote this long post just for the sake of my religion ‎Islam. Not my race ! You know I am not Arab! I am Persian. ‎
    ‎2500 years ago, our king Cyrus the great was the king of peace and justice and they did a ‎big favor for jews. ‎http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus
    ‎1000 years before Quran was sent to Mohammad, the kingdom of Persia has the biggest ‎economics and politics and scientific power in the world.
    ‎
    You know why Islam was sent to Suadi Arabia? Because it was the most dirty place in ‎the world. Arabs in those days had to bury their own born girl alive. They did not have ‎any God but some hand made idols. Obviously some people in the other part of the world ‎like Persia , Rome, Greece and Israel did not need a comprehensive religion because ‎they already had religions and they were worshiping the same god. ‎

    So the God decided to send Islam to the worst place on earth. ‎

    I told all these , to tell you that I told you everything I believe in Islam and I am not a bias ‎guy. ‎

    Blogmaster, I don’t know if you think that Quran is not from god or not. But I can prove ‎that Quran is not written by Mohammad and it is sent from God. But I think I better write ‎it in a separate thread. As this thread has been very disputed and it is full of insults and ‎the interesting thing is that the guy who created this thread is banned. ‎

    Best regards, ‎
    ‎
    Arasp ‎
     
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  5. Arasp

    Arasp Well-Known Member

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    #165
    Yes, But maybe in the time of Mohammad becaue they wanted to kill him and distroy islam. As I said before, I am not a Quran interpreter.
     
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    #166
    So that makes it okay, then?
     
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    #167
    Again, you are assuming the insults were from Christians, unless you can tell me they said they are Christian.

    So if you studied Christianity, you wouldn't have made the assumption everyone is a Christian in the USA or wherever else. Those who are Christian should act like Christians, being a Christian isn't a club membership, and you can't be born a Christian.

    Is Israel a threat to Iran or ?? anyone?

    I think Mike meant that from the scriptures - enemies of Jews (someone who attacks them) would like up with Islam and its teachings. Correct me if I am wrong, but too much info from the Koran says to kill Jews, etc...

    Also, consider that the Jews are from Abraham/Isaac and Arabs are descendants of Ishmael, and it was said that there would be an ongoing problem between blood. Isaac the son of Abraham and his wife and Ishmael the son of his maidservant.

    You will find that Christians also believe that sex should be saved for marriage and only between a husband and wife, that is why you see so much arguement in the states about gay marriage, abortion, etc... for the most part you will see Christians on one side of the issue.
     
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    #168
    Arasp, I'll don't gone post reply for you to understand but i can tell you for sure that you are so brainwashed ...
    Maybe if you will get out from iran and talk with non-muslims so you'll think different.


    Edit: watch this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WLoasfOLpQ
     
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    #169
    King Kong aint' got shit on me ; p
     
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    #170
    It's like reading books in here....
     
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    #171
    Rick. Please ignore the stupid messages that ruin the forum :)
     
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    #172
    what other things do you have to say, if you don't say I am brainwashed?

    I have been out of Iran for a couple of years and have talked with non-muslims.

    I think some friends like Mike (blogmaster) and Debunked are very open minded and smart. :) But I am not sure about you.
     
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    #173
    Dear Friend,

    I agree with all you said about christians.
     
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    #174
    any religion where the followers believe when they die they will get 72 virgin wives is full of shit in my opinion.

    However i can see how you could easily buy into it if you live in a mud and clay hut and have nothing else going on in your life.

    Oh and what's the women's reward? They will lose all of their jealousy while their hubby's are banging the 72 virgins plus they will be 100 times more beautfiul in paradise. And oh don't forget about the rivers of wine and honey that you get to drink from.

    I generally am not one to knock a religion or belief but Islam is bullshit to me.
     
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    Arasp Well-Known Member

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    Well, can you provide proof that it is written in holy Quran that Jews should be killed?

    regarding what you have said about Abraham/Isaac, it resembles Racism a little bit. The wife of ABraham is not important that much. Abraham is more important, why dont you look at this issue with a possitive approach? That we are all brothers and sisters. :)
     
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    Yeah it sounds stupid to me too. What do you mean?
    72 virgins. huh? Sounds good . lol !

    I have never heard such thin in Islam or other religions. Where have you heard such thing?
     
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    #177
    Very easy to say "I've never heard such thing" like you did with ahmadinejad.
    Pay attention, you're exposed just to "one side" and because of that you never heard those things.

    About your post to me, when you got to the place that you just can't convince the "other side" that he's wrong
    (and just because he's brainwashed and doesn't have open mind) - you just stop trying ...
     
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    #178
    Arasp

    If you hear today that Jesus will come tomorrow for sure, would you change your life? - beliefs?

    .....................

    Anyway, Jesus said I'll come like a thief in the night.
     
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    Yes I also beilieve that Jesus will come to bring a great world for us. When he comes he will come with our Mahdi , We beilvie he comes and say that the right religion is Islam and Jesus will come muslim. I dont mean that christianity is a false religion but when jesus come and say that Islam was just a continue of chrisitianity not somehting quite differnt.
    And we beilieve that many christians will fight him when he comes (because they dont beilive he is Jesus christ)

    yes, if jesus comes tomorrow, I will be of his soldiers.
     
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    #180
    Jesus said you shall not worship any other gods beside Me.

    I'm the Way the Truth and the Light and nobody comes to the Father (God) except through me.

    Arasp, and as he said he will return to rapture his people which will live with him in the air for a thousand years, you should prepare and be ready all the time and means that he will not walk around on this planet, - this is subject to the anti-christ.

    Yes everybody will see him, but not everybody is going to be raptured.
     
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