U.S. officials identify Fort Hood Attack Terrorist as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by bogart, Nov 5, 2009.

  1. imad

    imad Peon

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    #41
    Yadda Yadda Yadda...

    your bigotry was so obvious, twisting, ridiculing won't work here.
     
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  2. CMike111

    CMike111 Peon

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    #42
    Since 911 Pres Bush had kept the US safe for 8 years. Barak Hussein hasn't kept the US.

    But at least he got the Nobel peace prize even though he is a danger to the US.
     
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  3. ChaosTrivia

    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    #43
    sure imad. sure.
    It was very hypocrite of me to say that he is Palestinian, problem: I didn't. so you were almost right. you got really close this time to say something right.

    you didn't understand 1+1 again. nevermind. nothing happened. we love you.
     
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  4. Zibblu

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    #44
    #1 Saying "since 9/11 President Bush kept the US safe" is sort of ridiculous considering that 9/11 was the biggest terrorist attack in US history and that there is ample evidence that the Bush admin. took their eyes off of the terrorism threat (read Richard Clarke's book for details.) It's also ridiculous because if you're saying that somehow this attack has something to do with Obama "not keeping America safe" then you could similarly blame Bush for the Virginia Tech massacre in 2007 which killed over 30 people. Blaming Obama for this is just as ridiculous as someone blaming Bush for that (which I don't recall any liberal doing, because it's so obviously ridiculous.)

    #2 His name is Barack Obama not Barak Hussein. Name calling is childish. Grow up.

    #3 In what way has Obama not kept the US safe? There has been no terrorist attacks since he became President, he has already kept the US safe (using that metric) longer than Bush did.

    #4 It's so immensely sad to see right wingers trying to use this tragedy to create more fear and hatred. It's like fear & hatred is their fuel and without it, they cannot move.
     
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  5. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #45
    I defy anyone to present an idea that would prevent this from happening again that doesn't involve racial/religious profiling.
     
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  6. Zibblu

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    #46
    You can't keep senseless violent acts like this from happening. It's impossible. Such acts have always happened. You cannot react to such a violent act by taking away people's basic freedom.

    Each such act has it's own set of causes. Although the one thing that seems to tie together most of the recent such mass killings is that the killer felt bullied by those around him/them (Columbine, Virginia Tech, and now this...)

    And it makes no sense to treat this act differently because of his race/religion. Should we also be profiling anyone that reminds us of Timothy McVeigh? You know the 1996 Atlanta bomber was also a white right wing terrorist like McVeigh...
     
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  7. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #47
    Your solution is, this type of thing cant be prevented?
     
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  8. Toopac

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    #48
    It can, we just need something deadly released into the air to kill everyone worldwide.
     
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  9. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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  10. CMike111

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    #50
    I said **since** 911. It was only nine months in the Bush presidency when the attack occured. Since that time there was no other terrorist attack within the US because of the vigilance of Pres. Bush.

    Under Obama bin laden there have already between two terrorist attacks within the US. One was the recruiting office, and this one, where the terrorist yelled allah akbar before shooting everyone up.

    What is immensely sad is Obama bin laden dismanteling the safeguards and the active prosecution of terrorists created by Pres. Buh, and caring more about the "rights" of foreign terrorists than of protecting americans.
     
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  11. Zibblu

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    #51
    Alright... It's obvious that you are a lost cause so you're going on ignore. The "obama bin laden" thing is the last straw. That's unacceptable.

    There's no reason for any intelligent informed person to waste their time with people who are willfully ignorant and stupid. It's really an important lesson I've learned, some people are just lost causes and we can't let them derail the discussion that rational thinking people wish to take part in.
     
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  12. Silver89

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    #52
    Terrorist Definition - "The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention."
     
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  13. Zibblu

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    #53

    with the intention of what?


    that definition would include pretty much all acts of violence. if someone shoots their wife because she had an affair, that would make him a "terrorist" by such a definition. does that make sense? obviously not.

    this is a more reasonable definition of terrorism:

    the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature

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    So far we have no evidence that what this guy did falls under this definition. What were his goals?

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    Check this out: http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/06/fort.hood.suspect.muslim/index.html

    It seems like he was taunted a lot due to his religion and he finally lost his marbles and this tragic event happened. Does this excuse his behavior? Obviously not. Just as it didn't excuse the Columbine killers that they were taunted and bullied... But I think we should think about that... what is it about our society that is creating so many of these mass killers?
     
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  14. PioneerGold

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  15. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #55
    Are you saying you are [fill in blank], too? :p That's a loaded question.

    Remember my friend that the #1 victims of Muslim terrorists are muslims. Go ahead and play the race card if it makes you feel good. But remember that the terrorists don't make distinctions when they attack. People of all religions, ethnic groups and races were victims on 9/11.

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    The race card was in play here:

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=12852409&postcount=23

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=12853909&postcount=35
     
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  16. Toopac

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    #56
    Do you actually read what you write? or even believe what you are writing?

    How long has Obama been in office? has he been in nine months yet?

    That's bullshit.
     
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  17. PioneerGold

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    #57
    I'm confused. You started mentioning all this race stuff, so I take it you are racist...

    because, the race card is something racists play.

    It's funny, you want to use the suffering of one group you hate, as justification to kill another group you hate.
     
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  18. World Class

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    #58
    Well cMike you are being a racist,just because he was a Muslim you are saying that he is dangerous to US.You people elected him and majority in US is of Christians so its the decision off all Christians to elect a Muslim president so why are you complaining? Now you are saying that its not the right decision to elect him.

    While I was browsing another thread here on DP a US guy said that we made a mistake electing Bush.

    So the conclusion is clear that you have made incorrect decision in choosing your president in last 10 years.This is what you people are saying in some threads.
     
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  19. Zibblu

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    #59
    Important point: Barack Obama is NOT a Muslim. It's amazing to me that this falsehood is still floating around when there is absolutely no proof of it.

    But... as they said on Seinfeld: "not that there's anything wrong with that."
     
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  20. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #60
    "You talkin' to me?"

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