Hi I'm confused about Google Pagerank. Many people say it's calculated on how much quality links point to your site. They count as points. Other people say it's calculated on the middle % of all PR, that other people link to you. For example: if 100 people with 4 PR link to you + 100 people with PR 0 link to you, you get a pagerank of 2. My bidding directory had in the past reached PR 4. The last 7 months, I'm getting more backlinks with all sites that have a good alexa ranking. All sites, including those with Google PR 0. My google pagerank dropped 5-6 months ago to zero. Then I received more backlinks of PR 3, PR 4, PR 5 sites. With the next Google update, my Google PR increased back to PR 2 I still didn't understand. Then I've received more backlinks of lower PR sites. A month ago, my Google PR dropped again to Zero. In my eyes, when you have for example Google PR 4 See that you don't get new backlinks lower than PR 4 or it will hurt you !! If you have PR 4 and receive to much PR 2 backlinks, you're site will drop to PR 3 and then to PR 2 Some people create a new website. They receive 2 backlinks of a PR 6 site Next time, they have also PR 6 What do you think ? If Google PR really works like this ... then I find Google PR the stupids thing there exists. And the most dishonest thing on the internet. Then I hate it. But sadly it costs on my bidding directory in my signature. Due the PR zero, I get less submissions now Even my visitors are increasing after a while !! (Sometimes I ask myself, why do I promote my site further for getting more visitors to it, if I don't can get new buyers to my site) And what is now $2 for receiving permanent visitors ? People who look first at Google PR need to have lessons about what's the most important thing of a website. PR or visitors to theire site. Everyone should look first at Alexa ranking and never again to this stupid Google PR, that's dishonest. But sadly 70% of internet people doesn't know this (just a guess ) The most don't !! And look only at Google PR. Give me your oppinions people ..... Jason
Continue if I'm right all about this ==> When you have for example 100 PR4 sites linking to you. Some may decrease after a while for any reason. And then you're site will also decrease in PR. Because they decreased. So dishonest, so dishonest. Jason
Yes, PR is useless and most of the people look for PR when buying links and not traffic. To me PR is worthless and traffic is what matters...
Please don't forget, You'll here are saying PR is useless and at the same time saying high PR backlinks matter. I feel PR is quite important as it s among the main factors that are considered to give value to a backlink.
To be frank, theoretically it is PR link juice flow. But again it will not work in this fashion. If you have 50 PR 5 links, there is no guarantee that your PR will rise. I have seen this many time practically.
PR is so useless...except in your case because you are basically selling links (bidding directory), which Google hates because they don't want webmasters selling PR. You have less submissions because most seem to be buying the PR and not the traffic, so maybe you got your wrist gently slapped by G and they lowered your PR. The fact that your traffic has increased shows how little to no effect toolbar PR has when it comes to the SERPs.
For me, high PR backlinks are important for one reason ... in my eyes ... Not for the Google PR, but mostly for Alexa Ranking. Those sites with high Google PR, are mostly sites with a good alexa ranking. And have so much daily visitors. Jason
Indeed. Because also one day after another one, those 50 PR 5 sites, can also decrease for any reason. And therefor, you're site will also decrease ... Jason
---------------------------------------------- The fact is => in the past, there where no problems at all till Matt Cutts started to be more annoying, like he's now at the moment. Read his last message about bidding directories and paid directories. Seems clear, ... because he hates that webmasters can make money with directories of any kind. Due that, he will hate all those sites. And will find many ways to punish those sites. If his site was attacked due bad comments, be sure, he will say everything, to save his site. But when other people complain about dishonest things of Google, he say only ... Pfff, not my problem. Jason
If PR is useless there are proof that based on that you will rank in google. let it be useless but you need that to rank in google as it is googles
That's interesting: My Google PR is 0, but I rank No1 on Google search? Search.. Retrogames and you'll see me at the top,.. and PR = 0
Two things. First, SERP rank is not directly related to your PR. Yes, PR is a major factor, but it's not the only factor, and it's not unheard of to achieve good ranking on non-competitive key phrases wiht low PR. Second, when you say that your PR is 0, what you really mean is that your Google Toolbar PR is 0. However, Google toolbar PR is updated only infrequently, while your PR is actually updated continuously. In other words you may have a higher PR than the toolbar indicates.
You can stop right there. The problem is that you own a bidding directory. Google doesn't like these sorts of directories because they feel that they are detrimental to search results. They often will 'wipe' the PR from sites that they deem are 'link farms'. Bidding directories were classified as 'link farms' in early 2008.
SERP position is more important then PR. Google PR is how important you page or sites. So i think first SERP and the PR is important.
Actually, Google PR is how Google quantifies the quality and quantity of your backlinks. And PR is the biggest off page factor in determining your SERP placement.