It does not need to be strong. That was my point. Look at the Democrats that came to the plate. Obama (give me a break) Hillary, The Duck Quacker, The tort lawyer, etc., etc...
Sorry Mia, but Barack Obama will not be a failed President like George W. Bush was. I know you are rooting for our President to fail, but it will not happen. President Obama is doing a good job and our country is getting back on track. I think there's a very good chance that Obama will win a landslide victory in 2012.
If so, those two didn't help themselves very much. One of the biggest mistakes McCain made was selecting a running partner calculated (wrongly I might add) to garner some portion of the female vote. Then he didn't support her. Clash of cultures. His camp thought they had someone they could mold, but they ended up with a moose in the china closet. Interesting story of how she was treated on election night. A major dis job. While I hate to admit it, you have to admire Palin for the restraint she has shown to date in outing the McCain camp for how she was treated.
He already is a failed president. Looks like those numbers will continue to plummet after Obama tells people he created 590,000 jobs one week and the next unemployment rises to over 10 percent. Nah, he's pretty much already failed. BTW, can you let me know what it is you are smoking that makes you think Obama is doing a good job? I'd like to sample some of that too.
You can get it if you say you have chronic pain, it is really easy in a few states to get a card to legally smoke it. One problem though, I think you have to be either wealthy or on welfare to qualify. Those who work for a living and produce something don't qualify, they don't want to numb the brain of the working - that would just produce another non-producer.
The more you try to blame the economy on Obama, the more he will get credit when it does turn around. Saying he's already failed is ridiculous. We have avoided a Great Depression because of his moves and he's now very close to getting major health care reform done... something that has been attempted by numerous Presidents before over the course of 60 years. If he gets that done and the economy turns around, Obama will be seen as a massively successful President. And unemployment being as high as it is and saving 590K jobs are not mutually exclusive ideas. As bad as things are now, they could be even worse (for example if McCain/Palin were in the White House.)
OK. I assume then, that you are also giving him credit for the stock market going up about 50% since spring? I remember back when Fox and the rest of the Republican media was watching the stock market like a hawk and trying to lay blame on Obama for it falling (even though obviously that downward trajectory was in place since the September '08 crash.) But now that it's back over 10,000 ... barely a peep! I assume then, you are also giving Obama credit for the economy expanding for the first time in over two years? Unemployment is still high, but that is a lagging indicator and if it follow suits, it should be heading in the right direction by next year (in time for the 2010 elections.) I assume then, you will give him credit for that as well. Keep digging that hole, buddy. Keep digging that hole.
You may reach China at this rate! I think David Plouffe really nailed it when he said that Obama is a chess player in a town full of checkers players (on The Daily Show the other day.) I think the right wingers are really playing into his hands. Right wingers just have no vision. No ability to see beyond the next news cycle. Obama is moving forward with an eye set on the future, he wants to get a lot done in his 8 years and I think he's moving in such a way to make sure he succeeds in the long term.
My mistake. I said 10 percent earlier. Its actually 10.2 Percent. "Unemployment hits 10.2% The unemployment rate spiked to its highest level since 1983, much worse than expected as employers continue to trim jobs despite other signs of growth." That's nearly a 1/2 percent gain from last month. All this on the heals of a congress and president hell bent on spending more money we do not have on things we do not need or want. Meanwhile people are dying in Afghanistan and this president refuses to lead. Obama = miserable failure.
So if Obama is a miserable failure for 10% unemployment in his first year of the Presidency, what does that make Ronald Reagan who had 10% unemployment in the 3rd year of his Presidency? Keep digging.
Everyone in government with very few exceptions, are miserable failures across the board. From Republicans to Democrats.
Yup. That seems to be about the extent of your argument. You're a real master debater. BTW, to anyone who wants to know the truth about Ronald Reagan's presidency I highly recommend this book: Tear Down This Myth.
Based on what? Just saying something is true doesn't make it true. As of 2009 there is no reason to think that President Obama will not win re-election in 2012. He has yet to fall under 50% on Gallup's approval ratings, not even for a single day (he's at 52% today)... No incumbent with a 50% approval rating in Gallup has ever lost. Ever. In fact you can go down as low as 48% and have that statement be true, I believe. When you consider the extremely weak Republican field, there's reason to believe his approval ratings could be as low as 40% and he could still pull it out. --- 2012 is a long ways off, and anything can happen. As of right now I'm confident Obama will win re-election but certainly if unemployment is still in the double digits in the fall of 2012, he may have a tough time. Although I don't think it would necessarily be impossible. FDR didn't magically turn the Great Depression around, but the people did at least believe he was trying to do something about it. I think people will feel similarly about Obama, even if the economy has not turned around by then.
Based on the fact that he's done nothing that he said he would and is on the same exact path Carter was. I've seen in before. I like to call it experience... something you and Obama seem to lack.
Are these the same people that in Feb '08 were certain that the election was going to be between Giuliani and Clinton? This is the Democratic Party political strategy. They go after the young, those that don't know that the Party's politicking is the same story they've been telling since Hubert Humprey. I should know, I'm one of the fallen... The Democrats always go to market on the strategy of Change. Problem is, after awhile you begin to realize that no matter how much of a majority you have, things always stay the same. That's when people either go Moderate or Republican. BTW, McCain lost the 2008 election because he came out against Ethanol subsidies. His numbers in the Midwest literally dropped 14 pts overnight and never recovered. My guess is he didn't want to win. And the people on the left rarely go over to the right. Right? I was taught politicking by the Democratic party about 20 years ago. Whether you are Republican or a Democrat, you've got to know that regardless of whether you are an obvious sinner or a verified saint, rule of thumb is 1/3 of the people will always vote for your party, 1/3 of your people will always vote against your party. So, you can crap all over your base and still get their vote (like the way Democrats treat the environmental movement). The fight is always for the Independents. Independents are easy - I was taught that just do what you say you are gonna do on the issues and you'll get their vote. That isn't just speculation, it's dishonest speculation. And it's a completely wild fantasy-like hallucination to declare that Obama "will win a landslide victory in 2012". You're not a concerned citizen, you're into a cult of personality. "My President, right or wrong". Right? Remember Jimmy Carter! Just because you like Obama is no reason to declare that he will do a good job. And just because you don't like George W. Bush is no reason to declare him a failure. When he had a Republican Congress, the country was strong and the economy flourished, despite lies that they lowered taxes on the rich (Bush actually lowered taxes on the middle class by shifting the tax tables). You may not have liked what was portrayed on TV, but the simple fact is that America was much better off with George W. Bush as President and a Republican Congress, than we have been since 2006 with a Democratic Congress.
Great point. Also, why did the deficit shrink during Clinton's first 2 years even though he increased discretionary spending? The answer is because policies are not the only part of the equation, the state the economy is in very much affects everything. Both Reagan and Bush senior admitted to this whenever things weren't turning out as best as they wanted but they knew they had no control over it. You guys so overrate the power the President has with what is going on in the economy.